"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[davidoff619]

hi I have tried overclocking to 4ghz but but with no luck tried 400x10 and 450x9 but won't stop stable at 1.40v for longer than 15 mins. I've got 4 pin plug in should I try 8 pin thanks for your help David

[CryptiK]

If you have the appropriate 8-pin plug on your psu, use it. I doubt that is your problem though to be honest.

[davidoff619]

what might be the problem then Ive tried your template and another 2 and still nothing will it be the bios 803 seems to be good or 1201 sounds to be going well when it's on asus site lol. Could anyone surgest anything to help me out thanks

[PortCitySlim]

My ambient room temps are finally cool enough to run 440x8 for 3.52ghz. I am having a problem though. At 425x8 I was able to run my ram at PL7/strong and since I have increased the clock speed it is obvious I will not be able to run at PL7 but I can boot at PL8 and have found that I need 1.46vcore with the CPU and am now trying to pass an OCCT ram test at PL8 but I keep getting BSOD's and OCCT crashes. My ram passes PL8/Moderate with memtest86 v2.01 in DOS. What seems to be my problem? Here are my settings and my set-up is in my sig, thanks!

ASUS P5Q DLX Template :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 266
FSB Frequency: 440
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1103
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information : 

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Moderate
AI Transaction Booster: 8
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.4625
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.34
DRAM Voltage: 1.98
NB Voltage: 1.32
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled 

[Runkett]

hi I have tried overclocking to 4ghz but but with no luck tried 400x10 and 450x9 but won't stop stable at 1.40v for longer than 15 mins. I've got 4 pin plug in should I try 8 pin thanks for your help David

Try 1.45v to see if volts are the issue - even if you think thats too high for regular use (i dont beleive it is), it will identify that is where the problem is.

[Leeghoofd]

I am having some trouble with bios 0803. When it fails to boot when I am trying to overclock the ram past 1200 MHz, I have to switch off the PSU when the system is running, as it becomes non-responsive to holding in the power button.

When I turn it back on, the bios is cleared as if I used clear cmos function.

I still cannot get past 1200 MHz on this board, 1200 is rock stable, 1201 MHz will not boot. This is using any strap. This issue is really annoying me.

Is anyone getting some good results with bios 1201?

I didn't have this issue since 0704 bios, maybe you are pushing the rams and board a bit too much so that it becomes unresponsive, post ya template again plz... also before trying out a new setting I opt to save in an OC profile in case off a complete unforeseen reset.... 1201 with the same settings as 1103 seems to give me a bit better bandwith and lower latency (but no miracles ofcourse)

what might be the problem then Ive tried your template and another 2 and still nothing will it be the bios 803 seems to be good or 1201 sounds to be going well when it's on asus site lol. Could anyone surgest anything to help me out thanks

Try 1201 mate, runs flawless here with the Qx... and try 3.6Ghz first and determine ya Vcore there and post back... could be some pll and GTL tweaking does the trick... Vcore at 3.6Ghz already gives a good idea what will be required for 4Ghz ops... if you are at 1.25 plus for 3.6ghz you can expect pretty easily 1.4vcore for 4ghz ops.... hows ya cooling ?

My ambient room temps are finally cool enough to run 440x8 for 3.52ghz. I am having a problem though. At 425x8 I was able to run my ram at PL7/strong and since I have increased the clock speed it is obvious I will not be able to run at PL7 but I can boot at PL8 and have found that I need 1.46vcore with the CPU and am now trying to pass an OCCT ram test at PL8 but I keep getting BSOD's and OCCT crashes. My ram passes PL8/Moderate with memtest86 v2.01 in DOS. What seems to be my problem? Here are my settings and my set-up is in my sig, thanks!

One of the reasons I almost never use memtest in dos as it seems to be stable there, yet your OS can crash in a flash...I still love XP as it's less hard on ya OC's then Vista... just try to disable static read control and see what gives or loosen to PL 9... think it's time to settle for some slightly looser settings to increase stability... does the CPU and co pass all small tests, ya rig caps out in blend or large mode ?

Try 1.45v to see if volts are the issue - even if you think thats too high for regular use (i dont believe it is), it will identify that is where the problem is.

I wouldn't run my precious Qx daily over 1.4, think he needs to verify all the settings and power connections and get the hang of the board and settings before pushing on... templates are nice but each CPU/Mobo/Ram combo is different... just like women lol

[CryptiK]

what might be the problem then Ive tried your template and another 2 and still nothing will it be the bios 803 seems to be good or 1201 sounds to be going well when it's on asus site lol. Could anyone surgest anything to help me out thanks

Perhaps it is your ram, or your cpu. Not all do 4GHz with <1.40v. Some ram is also very sensitive to the secondary & tertiary timings. AUTO doesn't cut it for these rams.

Fill out the bios settings template and post it up here, that makes it much easier to help you out.

[PortCitySlim]

One of the reasons I almost never use memtest in dos as it seems to be stable there, yet your OS can crash in a flash...I still love XP as it's less hard on ya OC's then Vista... just try to disable static read control and see what gives or loosen to PL 9... think it's time to settle for some slightly looser settings to increase stability... does the CPU and co pass all small tests, ya rig caps out in blend or large mode ?

Thanks, I have only ran small fft's with prime95, I have not ran large or blend tests there. I am crashing when I run the OCCT Ram test for 2 hours. It will run for 1h45mins and then crash. I think I should just try without Static read control and then maybe go to 2.0v for ram and if all else fails I will go back to 3.4ghz because my ram runs really good there and the extra clock speed is not worth the slash in ram performance to me. Thanks, again

[Runkett]

I wouldn't run my precious Qx daily over 1.4, think he needs to verify all the settings and power connections and get the hang of the board and settings before pushing on... templates are nice but each CPU/Mobo/Ram combo is different... just like women lol

I guess price of cpu does directly relate to how much juice you are willing to feed it. my e8400 was pretty cheap so if it starts to fade after a year I wont really be upset (good excuse to upgrade) but if I had dropped over a grand on an extreme quad things may well be very different. I still dont think small tests over the comfort zone to see if volts are the issue is going to do much if any damage though (within reason) but trying other things first is the way to go if you are worried about it.

[Fedos]

Hello guys ! First post here, just read 50 % of hundred pages. Huge topic ! Wow.

I think, by my personnal experience, Bios 12.01 is,for me, the most stable i ever used, all olds ones (other that first one) give me issues like windows freez or BSOD. With this bios, it's then the first i can boot on 480 FSB. But 481 don't boot. I'm not an O/C guru as well that's sure but if someone can give me some tips for using an 500*8, it would be nice !

My 24/7 config is 3.6 ghz stable with OCCT 2hours passed without craches.

I can run 480 FSb but only for viewing movies or listenning music , normal use. i can't play or ful load cpu freez my vista. But on idle, it's ok. T° are 34 ° idle @ this core.

(sry for my french english :/)

[Martin.v.r]

bios 1201 E8600@4.6GHZ 460x10 stramp 400=1232MHZ level 10
CPU Voltage: 1.4250v= 1.400v
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
DRAM Voltage: 2.3
NB Voltage: 1.2.6
NB GTL Reference: 0.610
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO

[Runkett]

Probably not an issue, but what are people finding their motherboard temps reaching? I'm using everest to display, but im sure other things give the same reading - I have noticed it goes as high as 40c when/after doing some of the stress tests. While 40c is not a big number compaired to a lot of other components these days, my old 680i board only ever got to about 33c in the same case (P190 with lots of big fans everywhere).

Is that anything to worry about? What part of the board is this a temp reading of anyway?

[AnDrAz]

Two annoying bugs:
1.If you press the power button on first express gate screen and then turn on the computer, OC will always fail.
2.If you put computer in hibernating (I am using vista x64), when you wake up it, all chassis fans will be on 500rpm. I have qfan disabled but the same will happen if it is on.

[truehighroller]

Was running 901 bios, reinstalled with 1201 and it kept hanging, even in IDE mode

Flashed to 803 and worked right off Hmmm Haven't pinned it down, too many variables

I'm gun shy of Raid now, going to just use acronis for a while

You almost have the same setup as me and I have been having this issue but, I will see if it still persist today as I am getting two new bios today that are preflashed to 1103.

[Mumid]

bios 1201 E8600@4.6GHZ 460x10 stramp 400=1232MHZ level 10
CPU Voltage: 1.4250v= 1.400v
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
DRAM Voltage: 2.3
NB Voltage: 1.2.6
NB GTL Reference: 0.610
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO

What is the bios showing your GTL values to be? I think E0 stepping has different default values

[CryptiK]

Here's my template for what settings will be stable at DDR 1199 MHz, but fail to even boot when raising the FSB & therefore ram by 1 MHz. The fact that I am totally stable at 499FSB/DDR1199 then it totally fails to even boot at 500/1200 is obviously a board/bios issue of some kind. I am quite an experienced overclocker and this type of behaviour is very strange.

I have tried every strap at every possible FSB/Ram frequency combination to no avail. 1200 + ram speed is not possible.

ASUS P5Q DLX Template :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 499
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1199 (reads as 1200 in windows)
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information : 

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: 8
Read to Precharge Time: 5

DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
DRAM Read Training: disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: light (setting to lightest makes no difference)
AI Transaction Booster: 10 (setting up to 13 makes no difference)
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.3625 (I am not cpu vcore limited, I can bench at 571 FSB easily and boot at 590 FSB at this voltage)
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.12
DRAM Voltage: 2.1 (stable at 1199 at 2.1v, setting up to 2.3v makes no difference still cant boot at 1200)
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Enabled
Vanderpool Technology: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled 

[Runkett]

Here's my template for what settings will be stable at DDR 1199 MHz, but fail to even boot when raising the FSB & therefore ram by 1 MHz. The fact that I am totally stable at 499FSB/DDR1199 then it totally fails to even boot at 500/1200 is obviously a board/bios issue of some kind. I am quite an experienced overclocker and this type of behaviour is very strange.

I have tried every strap at every possible FSB/Ram frequency combination to no avail. 1200 + ram speed is not possible.

ASUS P5Q DLX Template :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 499
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1199 (reads as 1200 in windows)
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information : 

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: 8
Read to Precharge Time: 5

DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
DRAM Read Training: disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: light (setting to lightest makes no difference)
AI Transaction Booster: 10 (setting up to 13 makes no difference)
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.3625 (I am not cpu vcore limited, I can bench at 571 FSB easily and boot at 590 FSB at this voltage)
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.12
DRAM Voltage: 2.1 (stable at 1199 at 2.1v, setting up to 2.3v makes no difference still cant boot at 1200)
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Enabled
Vanderpool Technology: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled 

Try:
DRAM Static Read Control: enabled
DRAM Read Training: enabled
MEM. OC Charger: auto
AI Clock Twister: moderate

I know that seems to be totally oposite to what would work.. but with those settings I have had no problem booting over 1200. I was playing around with mine tonight and would not boot when i chaged from mod to light (wtf) back to mod and booting again... (still failing stress, but i may be just trying to push it too hard).

My only other differnce was more volts, but we have differnt ram and yours may melt at my 2.3v

[NBF]

bios 1201 E8600@4.6GHZ 460x10 stramp 400=1232MHZ level 10

I'm glad too see you got strap 400 to work as well as the RAMs over 1200. I'll give it a try this weekend.

Here's my template for what settings will be stable at DDR 1199 MHz, but fail to even boot when raising the FSB & therefore ram by 1 MHz. The fact that I am totally stable at 499FSB/DDR1199 then it totally fails to even boot at 500/1200 is obviously a board/bios issue of some kind. I am quite an experienced overclocker and this type of behaviour is very strange.

I suggest you try other memory divider to make sure your RAM can do over 1200 on this board. Maybe 400fsb 266strap 1200RAM would be a good test.

[CERO]

WHat is the tighest PL can be reached ( and what strap/divider) up to 450FSB? ( P35:PL 6 / X38/48 : PL7) and what can be reached when doing 500FSB( what strap/divider)?
Any word about the new BIOS: 1201, better then 1103 and 0704?

[Mumid]

WHat is the tighest PL can be reached ( and what strap/divider) up to 450FSB? ( P35:PL 6 / X38/48 : PL7) and what can be reached when doing 500FSB( what strap/divider)?
Any word about the new BIOS: 1201, better then 1103 and 0704?

500 FSB, PL9 1:1, PL8 12:10, both with all pull ins enabled

[jas420221]

It varies CERO. Every board/setup is different.

[Mumid]

Here's my template for what settings will be stable at DDR 1199 MHz, but fail to even boot when raising the FSB & therefore ram by 1 MHz. The fact that I am totally stable at 499FSB/DDR1199 then it totally fails to even boot at 500/1200 is obviously a board/bios issue of some kind. I am quite an experienced overclocker and this type of behaviour is very strange.

I have tried every strap at every possible FSB/Ram frequency combination to no avail. 1200 + ram speed is not possible.

ASUS P5Q DLX Template :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 499
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1199 (reads as 1200 in windows)
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information : 

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: 8
Read to Precharge Time: 5

DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
DRAM Read Training: disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: light (setting to lightest makes no difference)
AI Transaction Booster: 10 (setting up to 13 makes no difference)
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.3625 (I am not cpu vcore limited, I can bench at 571 FSB easily and boot at 590 FSB at this voltage)
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.12
DRAM Voltage: 2.1 (stable at 1199 at 2.1v, setting up to 2.3v makes no difference still cant boot at 1200)
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Enabled
Vanderpool Technology: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled 

Have you tried using a higher VTT?

[CryptiK]

Try:
DRAM Static Read Control: enabled
DRAM Read Training: enabled
MEM. OC Charger: auto
AI Clock Twister: moderate

I know that seems to be totally oposite to what would work.. but with those settings I have had no problem booting over 1200. I was playing around with mine tonight and would not boot when i chaged from mod to light (wtf) back to mod and booting again... (still failing stress, but i may be just trying to push it too hard).

My only other differnce was more volts, but we have differnt ram and yours may melt at my 2.3v

Thanks mate but no go. I tried those combos before, and just did again then for the hell of it, and no go.

I just updated to bios 1201 and made no difference. I was hoping it would. I'll just keep playing with it.

Have you tried using a higher VTT?

No, It's not my cpu holding me back. I can be stable at 571 FSB with those vcore/vPLL/vVTT settings. It's either my ram, or the MCH, or bios, that is my issue. However as this has been my situation from bios 0610 to 1201, I think I can rule out bios. It must be ram or MCH.

In bios 1201 the ram voltages for me have changed. Now:

Bios/ Real Idle/ Real Load
1.96v /1.97v / 1.98v
1.98v /1.99v / 2.00v

Now I basically get what I set, and it increases by 0.01v under load. That is much better.

[Budwise]

hows the Vdroop on this board with that 16 phase power? Non existent?

[xTKxhom3r]

i get a .01 vdroop but with llc its either not there or +.01