Apogee GTZ

[eXa]

What!

Well well.... just get going

[Martinm210]

from our web site:

"Mechanical design of the copper base plate is optimized for Intel® socket LGA 775 and 771. The assembly features a patent pending design characterized by a topographically mapped CPU contact area which results in a 75% and up to 300% improvement in TIM joint thermal resistance compared to the Apogee™ GT/GTX series. Other types of sockets such as AMD® socket F, AM2, and 940 as well as upcoming sockets similar in design to that of socket 775 may also benefit from the enhanced contact area."

we are NOT talking about cores gentlemen, we are talking about TIM. Please keep that in mind. The orientation of this waterblock is socket specific, not core specific.

Thanks for the clarification, I've just noticed on some other blocks that generaly the orientation of the nozzles needed to match the core orientation for optimum cooling so I assumed this would be the same. It doesn't matter for the quad which is what I'm testing anyhow.

[Martinm210]

yeah,

I'm with NeaKuh on that one. Only in some parallel universe would the V2 beat a Supreme.

andyc

Have you guys tried a thicker o-ring in the V2 as a modified block test?

I've got one in mine, and need to go back and run stock now, but I think the additional bowing helps a fair amount.

It also probably depends on the TIM material used. The TIM consultants TC Grease 0098 stuff seems to a metter TIM interface that some of the others I've tried and showing less gain on bowing than non-bowed blocks. It's pretty thick stuff though, and I've had to adopt a spread thin method for consistent and optimal performance with it.

Anyhow, my GTZ sample won't be here for a couple more days, I'm sitting here with popcorn too...Actually I've got 8 block sets of runs done and still have several to go and several modified tests I want to run as part of my review package. Then I've got to go back and retest the "As Shipped" which is going to take a while and a little case modification work to add to the list.

Are you done...yet?...

[NaeKuh]

One thing I did notice, the quad core insert is worthless on the V2. I have to go back a run another couple of mounts with the insert to be sure, now that I have the new temp monitoring set up (thanks to your direction and advice), but everything I've seen so far suggests worse performance using the insert. At least on a Yorkie.

Have you seen that also?

andyc

nozzles are missing the cores then on the yorkfield.

planning was done on kentsfield then, and the smaller yorkfield package is missing the injector path.

[Martinm210]

One thing I did notice, the quad core insert is worthless on the V2. I have to go back a run another couple of mounts with the insert to be sure, now that I have the new temp monitoring set up (thanks to your direction and advice), but everything I've seen so far suggests worse performance using the insert. At least on a Yorkie.

Have you seen that also?

andyc

Havn't tested it yet, only stock with the EK oring. I still have a few more stock runs to do, then I'm moving onto the "Overclocked" Nozzle/Bowing/Stepping" experiements..

[nikhsub1]

yeah,

I'm with NeaKuh on that one. Only in some parallel universe would the V2 beat a Supreme.

andyc

I've yet to see this, but meh, I'm sure my EK is borked. I mean, it tests worse than the 6002.

[Martinm210]

LOL...yeah, you have to keep it fresh and fun. Thank God I don't have to drain my loop or wait for it to bleed anymore. I couldn't take much more of that.
Meet the triplets. Moe, Larry and Curley. Shimps on the bench
andyc

Yeah, I did something similar, but just some Zurn 3/4" hosebarb brass globe valves. If you look down the opening of these guys when open, there is no restriction at all. Then all I have to do is blip a few bubbles into the reservoir and I'm off and running again.

This also allows me to pull the entire loop away from the case when switching out blocks. Me and spilling go hand in hand...so over the workbench is much better than over the MB.

Now I just need to work on a techstation or horizontal case someday.....

[twwen2]

Now I just need to work on a techstation or horizontal case someday.....
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http://www.microcool.it/english/101prod.html

You know you want it

[NaeKuh]

http://www.microcool.it/english/101prod.html

You know you want it

oh dayam i want that.

okey so who do i need to kill in blingsville to get one?

[Webby]

From the website North American retailers

http://www.microcool.it/english/NordAmerica.html

include Sidewinder, frozen CPU and performance PCs

[inonefly]

One thing I did notice, the quad core insert is worthless on the V2. I have to go back a run another couple of mounts with the insert to be sure, now that I have the new temp monitoring set up (thanks to your direction and advice), but everything I've seen so far suggests worse performance using the insert. At least on a Yorkie.

Have you seen that also?

andyc

I removed my v2 quad insert last week, I run prime95 for 2 hrs and recorded the temp, then removed the insert and bleed, prime95 2 hrs, I got the same load temp but that's with 2c room temp rise, so i think the quad insert provides worse result on a quad ( q6600 3.6@1.36v)--at least in my setup.

[NaeKuh]

From the website North American retailers

http://www.microcool.it/english/NordAmerica.html

include Sidewinder, frozen CPU and performance PCs

Gary carries it?

Then its mine.

Hank does not have that. I should know, when im bored i always go though his site since he's one of the largest.

Edit: i have just emailed gary asking him to special order me one. So when i get it i'll show it off.

Hehe.. dont underestimate my budget on computer parts.

[NaeKuh]

Just checked all 3 and didn't see it in stock or that they carried it. I did just send a email to SW. I'd imagine it will cost a pretty penny though. With something as functional and nice looking as that, who'd want a case.

andyc

i found the replacement to my MM.

Dont let R3 hear me say that tho.


If Gary can special order it. Its so mine.

Andy did you check out my lastest usless purchase?

[Xilikon]

nozzles are missing the cores then on the yorkfield.

planning was done on kentsfield then, and the smaller yorkfield package is missing the injector path.

I'm curious to have the definitive data backing this claim. If it really does, I'll have to put the stock midplate back on my v2 which is cooling my Yorkfield Q9450.

[Martinm210]

http://www.microcool.it/english/101prod.html

You know you want it

Now why did you have to go do that....been going through keyboards left and right around here...need a waterproof one..!!

[gillbot]

Gary carries it?

Then its mine.

Hank does not have that. I should know, when im bored i always go though his site since he's one of the largest.

Edit: i have just emailed gary asking him to special order me one. So when i get it i'll show it off.

Hehe.. dont underestimate my budget on computer parts.

[gillbot]

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Micr...asts/5980.html

[nikhsub1]

Oh my,

I think I just felt something happen to me.

ROFL, Andy seriously, I was in a car wreck and my back is killing me. Please now

[Xilikon]

You can test it yourself right? That way you can see which plate works best with your loop.

Just a thought,

andyc

Yeah, I know but I'm being lazy At least, give me some slack since I started training last monday (need to get up to shape).

I will probably do it when I have time to do a full disassembly for cleaning then see if it improve with the stock nozzle.

[twwen2]

Oh noes now look what i've done! I gave nikhsub1 a bad back and something's happened to andy!

Now all we have left to test the GTZ is Martin!

[NaeKuh]

I'm curious to have the definitive data backing this claim. If it really does, I'll have to put the stock midplate back on my v2 which is cooling my Yorkfield Q9450.

pure speculation.

thats what im thinking. Sorry if you think i ment it as fact.


Ugh... one day Xilikon, i shall have that keyboard on your avatar. You just wait.

[gabe]

in your own world my friend. EK > D-tek. Can we just end it?


My EK will probably spank this GTZ even. Well im using custom accelerators.

My Cuplex will probably beat this GTZ as well, thats if martin finished stepping it.


Gabe you need to step the block and not bow it. Scott definitely discovered a winner.

Only problem tho, once stepped the block can never be used on neha since the die package is different.

Stepping was meticulously tested. Our block design is evidence of the route we chose based on our test data.

[twwen2]

Gary carries it?

Then its mine.

Edit: i have just emailed gary asking him to special order me one. So when i get it i'll show it off.

Aww man, now everyone else is gonna get one before me, not fair .
Should have kept it all to myself

[majestik]

in your own world my friend. EK > D-tek. Can we just end it?


My EK will probably spank this GTZ even. Well im using custom accelerators.

My Cuplex will probably beat this GTZ as well, thats if martin finished stepping it.


Gabe you need to step the block and not bow it. Scott definitely discovered a winner.

Only problem tho, once stepped the block can never be used on neha since the die package is different.

If you're so confident in your top secret EK mods... would you mind, you know, posting them?

[twwen2]

@R3: I know that, there was even a thread here about it in the news section. I was joking you know...

The only issue i can see would be noise. Being a benching station, there's nothing stopping those pesky decibels getting to my (annoyingly sensitive) ears .