"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[RejZoR]

Especially not on PCIe 2.0 buses...

[jVIDIA]

Big.Wayne, those readings where made only with my Q6600 G0 @ 3600 ( 65nm ).

Of course each MB could have diferent readings. Also diferent type of CPU's can do that but I don't think so. I think it's a MB "thing".

One thing I tested was with 3 or 4 diferent bios and all gave me the same values.

Try vPLL=1.52v on your machine. If it is still stable them let it stay 1.52v

I don't recommend Auto values on any voltage setting of the P5Q Deluxe.

[waynetu]

Someone have my same problem with bios 1103?
With some "strap" i have +60MHz finaly on my ram frequency!
ex. I set 1150MHz on my Corsair Dominator DDR2 and i check later that is 1220Mhz on Cpu-Z and Everest! And with other settings i can't bootup!

p.s. Sorry for my eng, im ita! Thanks!

as i listed before, set ddr2 1200 in bios, 1333 in everest and cpu-z when in windows.... have no idea and no answers from asus as well

[CryptiK]

I have had some issues with bios 1103, the main one being after a failed overclock, it sometimes resets the bios to defaults, as if I cleared the CMOS. I found this really irritating, and when asus removed the bios from the main website the first time (indicating a problem with it) I flashed back to 0803 and have not had any issues since.

I also measured the voltages with my DMM using both 0610, 0803 and 1103 bioses, and found no difference between them in the real voltages produced. I found the vNB overvolted by 0.01 - 0.02v, and the vdimm overvolted by 0.09v. However something that has not yet been mentioned, is that I found the memory voltage droops a lot under load. So if I set 1.96v in bios, I get 2.05v real idle and under load it droops to 1.99v.

However this is ameliorated by setting voltages higher, such that if I set 2.10v in bios, I get 2.12v idle and 2.13v load. Also setting 2.08v in bios results in 2.10v idle and 2.11v load. I am still experimenting with it and when I get it all figured I'll post a table.

So far I'm at 4005 MHz @ 1.304v load, DDR1112 @ 5-5-5-15 @ 1.96v (bios), using PL8, Clock Twister Light and 1.20v vNB.

[Martin.v.r]

quick test of Bios 1201 an E8600 @ 5.0GHZ Watercooling
http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=761515

bios 0803/1103 I got vdrop on 0.2500V in all set bios 1201 = 0.1000V

[flopper]

used bios 1102 for a while, seems to be good.

[sxs112]

I don't see 1201 bios on asus website, if it ain't listed i not trying it.

http://support.asus.com/download/dow...l=P5Q%20Deluxe

ASUS P5Q-Deluxe 1201 final Bios

[ 1201 ]
----------------------
Enhance the memory compatibility.

[gurusan]

changelog for bios 1201?

[sxs112]

changelog for bios 1201?

Yes

[ 1201 ]
----------------------
Enhance the memory compatibility.

[BeastNotro]

I still don't see it listed as a official released bios only on their FTP = Beta still... Anyhu ... i will wait for ppls test results ... i just hate flashing now again and have to Test all over again with Orthos prime and such, but yeah maybe 1201 is better then 1103, but who knows.

[BeastNotro]

By the way here is my Q6600 @ 3.6ghz Air Cooled finally as of yesterday evening and this morning Orthos Primed 11hrs 5min 4 secs before i stopped it and with these settings in bios, in my template below.


Bios 1103 and 1201:

**** System Performance Settings ****
*******************************
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 101
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-901 MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information: 5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information : 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information : 14-5-1-6-6
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
AI Clock Twister: Auto
AI Transaction Booster: Auto

All Pull-In's: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.425 ( 1.416v idle | 1.43 full )
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.630
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.670
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.28
NB Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 1.96
NB GTL Reference: 0.630
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized

**** Advance CPU Settings ****
**************************
CPU Ratio Setting : 8x
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Here is screen shot just before stopping Orthos which i just took this morning at 6:44am.

Also not sure why, but Orthos states it is at 4050mhz.. lol




I stopped Orthos .. as i say she is good enough. I usually do 8-10 hours of orthos (when ever i OC) and i have never had any issues afterwards, but one never knows as you can prime for 24hrs and still have issues later on, but 8-10hrs is ideal for daily usage and or 24/7 usage.

Temps were decent, but i must inspect The Thermal Paste and heatsink mounting .. as it appears at times ... 2 cores are 8-10C higher then the other 2 ... cores 0-1 is 8-10C higher when OCing then cores 2-3, but at idle they are only 1-2C difference.

Idle right now is 33-32-28-30

[bigcesar]

whats is the max fsb for this mobo?

[PortCitySlim]

Here is my near final results with my ram and bios 1103. 1133mhz, 1.98v, SRC and MemOC charger enabled, PL7/Stronger. PL6 will not boot with or without SRC or MemOC charger. The only thing I can think to do is try and tighten some of the timings maybe, any suggestions.

[wongnog]

ASUS P5Q DLX Template :

CPU Voltage: 1.5
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.6
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.4
DRAM Voltage: 1.92
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

This should give a good starting point mate, all depends a lot on ya CPU... maybe it can run with less Vcore, maybe it requires 1.55, it's a mix really of Vcore, GTL, PLL voltages... good luck

Thanks for the Q6600 setting Leeghoofd. I can't boot into Vista at 9x400 with these settings, so I'm wondering how much can I safely boost PLL, VTT, and NBCore to try? I'm running 9x380 right now and that seems okay. Also you mentioned GTL but you have that on Auto, so I'm a bit confused...

[BeastNotro]

wongnog

Have a look at my settings 3 posts up from your last post.

[Mumid]

thanks for clearing that up mumid.... but iv read somewhere that going from 16x to 8x isnt that much of a performance drop...

Especially not on PCIe 2.0 buses...

Yeah but he is planning on using 4870x2, i think there is a good chance that card will use enough bandwidth to be effected by going from 16x to 8x but obviously this will need to be tested. Saying that though, it would also mean pci 1.1 would also effect it when using 4870x2 but again obviously this needs to be tested

[BeastNotro]

Well i figured i run this program now to see if i am actually 100% stable as i just ran Orthos for 11 hrs last night/this morning... post is above and it never errored out, but if you read in this theard ppl who primed 10 hours or so .. ran linkpack and was not stable.

IntelBurnTest

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=197835

Ok this program gets Cores HOTTER then Orthos Prime.

I need to figure out why 2 of my cores always read 10C higher then the other 2.

Linpack 0-1 Cores 84C and 2-3 Cores 74C Max.

Orthos = 0-1 Cores 74C and 2-3 Cores 64C Max. (Were talking like 2-3 instances of 3 secs of a Max of 74C)

Here is my test results just done 15 min ago and all is OK Residual result numbers 5 passes all same.

Also ppl read the read me text ... only use what free memory is available to use.

[chispy]

Bios 1103 was quite buggy for me , no wonder they pull it out of their website , now my bios chip seems corrupted and wont hold the overclocks anymore , i reflashed like 5 times to 0704,0803 and all the same i think the bios chips are going bad

[jas420221]

Can anyone help?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2359

[BeastNotro]

Bios 1103 was quite buggy for me , no wonder they pull it out of their website , now my bios chip seems corrupted and wont hold the overclocks anymore , i reflashed like 5 times to 0704,0803 and all the same i think the bios chips are going bad

1103 is still listed on Asus's wesbite.

http://support.asus.com/download/dow...l=P5Q%20Deluxe

[BeastNotro]

Can anyone help?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2359

Hmm i am sure others in here can help you, but i only have Q6600 at 3.6ghz right now .... 4,0ghz on Q9450 is capable, but not all will do so and do so 100% stable.

As for what Volst and such i can't say for sure, but ppl in this thread and forum and other threads in this forum have done so... maybe to a quick search through the forum for Q9450 Overclocking and see what you find.

[NBF]

Bios 1103 was quite buggy for me , no wonder they pull it out of their website , now my bios chip seems corrupted and wont hold the overclocks anymore , i reflashed like 5 times to 0704,0803 and all the same i think the bios chips are going bad

The 1103 changed the boot block, maybe you could try to move forward, if downgrading is not working. Let us know if you have any progress.

ASUS P5Q-Deluxe 1201 final Bios

[ 1201 ]
----------------------
Enhance the memory compatibility.

[CryptiK]

whats is the max fsb for this mobo?

I have hit 590 FSB with only 1.304v (load) and vNB = 1.26v (although this was not stable but I don't want to abuse my CPU)

Here is my near final results with my ram and bios 1103. 1133mhz, 1.98v, SRC and MemOC charger enabled, PL7/Stronger. PL6 will not boot with or without SRC or MemOC charger. The only thing I can think to do is try and tighten some of the timings maybe, any suggestions.

Nice, try to pull in tRFC, I'm stable at 1112 MHz 5-5-5-15, tRFC = 30

Bios 1103 was quite buggy for me , no wonder they pull it out of their website , now my bios chip seems corrupted and wont hold the overclocks anymore , i reflashed like 5 times to 0704,0803 and all the same i think the bios chips are going bad

I have had no issue downgrading to 0803 from 1103.

Try restoring the bios with the initial bios that is contained in the second bios chip, then step back up to the bios you want to use.

Also ensure your system is at stock settings when you flash (obviously).

[CryptiK]

Some quick results:

590FSB


Everest @ 571 FSB


Everest @ DDR1000 4-4-4-4


Everest @ DDR1200 5-5-5-15

[bigcesar]

Some quick results:

590FSB


Everest @ 571 FSB


Everest @ DDR1000 4-4-4-4


Everest @ DDR1200 5-5-5-15

i like this fsb...whats is youare setting in BIOS?