Thermochill rad flux cleanup

[IanY]

Well that answers the question about whether or not you actually want to be constructive.

Please, continue crapping on threads, and insulting others like your some sort of expert.

I suppose you don't appreciate my contrarian viewpoints Well, get used to my differences in opinion from a general consensus. I have questioned and butted heads with almost every expert on XS that you can name, including Cathar and Marci. As much as I irritated them, they have heard from me many times. My persistent reminders as to TC cleaning and paint, etc., is one of the main reasons why Marci disappeared from XS. Therefore, don't for a moment believe that I'm TC's little fanboy. I have been as hard on TC as I can ever be, and you wouldn't imagine how rough I was on Marci.

Now, as to plasticizers, none of that has ever been an issue with me. I will not own a EK Supreme, no matter what, because I disagree with its construction. Even though Naekuh champions its design, its not for me, so I probably will never own one. Therefore, the clogging concerns are not present for me. I haven't seen the internals of the Apogee GTZ, so I cannot yet come to any conclusions. However, knowing that its an impingement based block makes me shun away from it too.

Anyway, there is always a diversity of opinions on XS, and many people use the opinion of the experts here as a barometer for their decision making. I don't and never will. Another instance is the "1 GPM of flow is plenty and 1.5 GPM is excellent" viewpoint. I would say 4 out of 5 experts on XS believe that. I'm no expert, but I just laugh.

[Zaskar]

Thats great and all man, but wasn't referring to you, it was to the post above mine from RRR that he deleted :P

[[XC] riptide]

I suppose you don't appreciate my contrarian viewpoints Well, get used to my differences in opinion from a general consensus. I have questioned and butted heads with almost every expert on XS that you can name, including Cathar and Marci. As much as I irritated them, they have heard from me many times. My persistent reminders as to TC cleaning and paint, etc., is one of the main reasons why Marci disappeared from XS. Therefore, don't for a moment believe that I'm TC's little fanboy. I have been as hard on TC as I can ever be, and you wouldn't imagine how rough I was on Marci.

Now, as to plasticizers, none of that has ever been an issue with me. I will not own a EK Supreme, no matter what, because I disagree with its construction. Even though Naekuh champions its design, its not for me, so I probably will never own one. Therefore, the clogging concerns are not present for me. I haven't seen the internals of the Apogee GTZ, so I cannot yet come to any conclusions. However, knowing that its an impingement based block makes me shun away from it too.

Anyway, there is always a diversity of opinions on XS, and many people use the opinion of the experts here as a barometer for their decision making. I don't and never will. Another instance is the "1 GPM of flow is plenty and 1.5 GPM is excellent" viewpoint. I would say 4 out of 5 experts on XS believe that. I'm no expert, but I just laugh.

I would strongly disagree with that.

[Zaskar]

What post ????

The one that was post 73, if you didn't delete it then I guess a mod did.

You remember, the one where you quoted all of post 72 and just responded with the "That was gay" emote.

[IanY]

I would strongly disagree with that.

Then there's something that I am not aware of

[Marci]

is one of the main reasons why Marci disappeared from XS.

Remove head from arse please. I got a new job, simple as that - you ain't THAT important to my life and posting habits d00d.

[Kibbler]

Remove head from arse please. I got a new job, simple as that - you ain't THAT important to my life and posting habits d00d.

epic burn

[Mankz_91]

You HAVE $$$ = Better performing ThermoChill radiators

There, that wasn't so hard, was it......

Don't you mean Feser radiators?

[naokaji]

No kidding...they should come flushed and clean already..

QFT, especially outside of america where they dont sell gallons of distilled water at every corner.

[menace2society]

For the premium you pay for TC rads you should expect a more finished product. There is absolutely no reason for this product or any other to come to market needing this much after perches care before it is usable.

These Rads in there current state should be deem completely unacceptable
and why they are not is beyond all logic.

[menace2society]

@Menace...

You don't own a TC rad, yet you continue to beat them down, WOW...

A fool can learn from his own mistakes but it takes a WISE man to learn from the mistakes of others

[eXa]

Still u got an GTS 360 X-flow....

Seriously, why are u bashing the TC rads...? They have been kings for years and still is one of the 2 best rads out there...

[Martinm210]

QFT, especially outside of america where they dont sell gallons of distilled water at every corner.

I wouldn't stress the "Distilled" issue, just use tap water. While I do make sure I run distilled water in my loop, I don't bother when flushing.

I think we're all anal about that, noone has proven that using tapwater for flushing anything is going to hurt anything. Pick up your favorite car radiator flush kit, does is say hook up your hose to your favorite distilled pressure system?

My vote for cleaning a rad is, buy a hose nipple for your faucet, crank it on hot and let it do it's thing into your sink basin. Then reverse flush, do that back and forth a few times and if it makes you happy dump some distilled down after your tap water flushing.

I've never bothered using distilled water for flushing and never had any problems..

I'd recommend flushing with hot tap water really well both directions then shake out the tap water and finish off with a little distilled in there. It seems like you can get much better cleaning by a nice hot high flow rate out of your faucet both directions than you can boiling the rad in a pan of water?

[menace2society]

So, you're making a feeble attempt at defending yourself, right?

You did admit, in your own way, that you don't own any Thermochill rads, therefore you really have no basis for your continued bashing, right??

I can assure anybody considering buying a TC rad, you will not be disappointed. The utter joy of superior performance, with sub-1000rpm fans, pure heaven....

My position needs no defence. I nether like or dislike thermochill.

My position is simply this:

ANY product that is considered a finished product that is not emeadiatly usable upon completion of purchase could and should be deem defective.

[menace2society]

Your intitled to your own opinion, as I am of mine...

IMO, you are off base in regards to what you deem defective...

Do you buy groceries?? If you buy fresh vegetables, then I assume every vegetable you bought was defective, because they need to be cleaned via a rinse job in water prior to consumption, therefore they do not meet your criteria for immediately ready to be used as is...

This is not my opinion, I simply paraphrased in to a few sentences what the courts can consider when determining weather a manufacturer can be legally liable or not.

And buy the way vegetable are not manufactured

[largon]

menace2society,
Enlighten me how does the flux affect the radiator's performance?
It's annoying, sure, but it certainly doesn't affect thermals...

RealRedRaider,
I'm sure asparagus isn't...

[Bojamijams]

And God is manufactured, by Man. But thats another story...

[largon]

Bojamijams,
Touché!

[menace2society]

menace2society,
Enlighten me how does the flux affect the radiator's performance?
It's annoying, sure, but it certainly doesn't affect thermals...

RealRedRaider,
I'm sure asparagus isn't...

Performance is not relevant to the merits of this argument

[Bojamijams]

Bojamijams,
Touché!

While you're watching this thread, I wanted to thank you for the work you put in the 8800GT voltmod thread. I was afraid of doing soldering and just insited on doing the softmod but 1.1V will only get you so far and my temperatures are far too low so I'm going to give it a shot when I get back from my business trip.

[Martinm210]

You guys crack me up...lol!

[sirheck]

You guys crack me up...lol!

Hey Martin.
Your wrong!
DOH im wrong!
Quit touching me!!
But,but he did it first!!
Yeah but he called me a %$^&

[Xilikon]

With such a petty debate, here's a good analogy to show why it's unacceptable like that but not defective :

You have a wallet full of bucks and no car so you need to get a nice car to suit your blingy lifestyle. After looking around, you fall in love with a Mercedes CLS63 AMG in the showroom so you proceed to buy it with a car salesman and pay cash for it. As you walk out with excitation to get such a exclusive car, the car salesman tell you will get it in one week (special delivery and such). When you get a phone call to learn that the car is ready to be picked up, you will go to the dealer then the salesman will show you your car. Your jaw drop to the floor at the sight of the car : A nice dark grey paint filled with lots and lots of dead hornets and bird poop all over the car. The salesman said that washing this car is not included and he dare to tell you to wash the car yourself. Will you find this acceptable ?

[menace2society]

You guys crack me up...lol!

Has gotten a little childish has it

I argue almost daily so somtimes it's hard to stop myself

[largon]

Truth to be told I too was pretty pissed to TC after seeing there's a horrible load of the flux crap inside the rad. I did try to flush it out with gallons and gallons of cold and room and boiling water. It appears I didn't quite succeed as even today - 18 months later - the stuff is floating in my res...
:\

Bojamijams,
If you're a bit unsure about the soldering it can't hurt to poke some old boards&cards with the iron just to practice. Then few tips for the real deal:
If soldering on the small dot doesn't bag on the first time make sure the area cools down before retrying. Also, glue the wire on the board an inch back from the wire's end you're going to solder.
=)