Originally Posted by awdrifter
There is a post dated 7/31/2008(
same page?) giving the Aug. 6th date
You must learn patience
For AMD QC owners that is a minimum requirement anyway
Don't worry play with Intel and grab a 45nm Phenom next year
besides nothing wrong with having 2 or more machines. I've got 4 (that I use
daily) besides the 790gx is a mATX (well some of them) get a nice small
portable case and you're set
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Yes I mean same OC's in both...
Well, looks like I'm might have get a Phenom and 790GX setup. The board that I got seems to be doa (Asrock P45TurboTwinS2000), if I can't figure out what's wrong with it I'm just gonna return it and buy the Phenom.
Well, some people claim AMD had always slightly lower OC's on 64 bit OS's however I had my Windsor running at 3.5Ghz, which would mean I should have gotten higher than that in 32 bit OS. However, looking at 99% of the Windsors, ~3.5Ghz is about the wall of the CPU so Im not entirely sure.
Also it depends a little bit how much the SB600 played a role in the differences between the OS's, although I think the difference will remain though.
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I've got a few questions on a few things that puzzle me....
1) I've read up on the 790FX somewhat, and to me it seems as if the major difference is lack of integrated graphics. Is there anything else significantly different?
2) If not, why do I see the upcoming boards at a higher price than the 790GX? (I haven't seen any for sale yet either!?)
3) With the 790GX, you have a couple of options for video output (actual connection). But you can only use one at a time, correct? Or can you use two monitors? (I've read conflicting info on this one)
4) If you can't, what happens when you add a separate card with two outputs possible (used to be called "dual-head" I believe) - you get a total of three?
5) I read somewhere that the AIW cards weren't supporting hybrid Xfire - does that mean that the card/IGP won't work "in tandem as one" but will work separately?
And a last one.... pleeeeease....
Seems like that Asus M3A78-T is a great board all things considered - any heads up on it that a potential buyer should be aware of?
If you could briefly enlighten me I'd appreciate it!....
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I decided to order a 790GX + SB750 board off of Newegg. I did rush + overnight so hopefully it will be here for the weekend.
I went for the most expensive one available since it was the only one to have three slots. We'll see what it does for my 9850BE. On 790FX+SB600 it currently maxes at 2.8, 1.4V. Even that isn't fully stable anymore.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131331
It took quite a bit of doing to convince myself that I wasn't wasting money on something I don't need. Of course I don't NEED it--this is pure play time!
I'll post my results.
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As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
Rule 2:
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
Rule 2A:
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
Rule 3:
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
I've been waiting for the SB750 for so long... I think I'll wait a bit longer.I'll post my results.
That makes you the lab rat!
So... you GO... let us know. Your 9850 results sounds similar to mine.
And: I want to hear about you hitting 3.2Ghz stable and 3.4Ghz benchable.
Get 'er dun!
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So the Asus one is a bit of an oddity because that middle black slot only runs at 4x. I'm not entirely sure why it's even there and am guessing it was just to save on design costs?I decided to order a 790GX + SB750 board off of Newegg. I did rush + overnight so hopefully it will be here for the weekend.
I went for the most expensive one available since it was the only one to have three slots. We'll see what it does for my 9850BE. On 790FX+SB600 it currently maxes at 2.8, 1.4V. Even that isn't fully stable anymore.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131331
It took quite a bit of doing to convince myself that I wasn't wasting money on something I don't need. Of course I don't NEED it--this is pure play time!
I'll post my results.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/758/1/
The max the boards are designed to do is dual 8x really with anyone wanting more needing to move to the 790FX series.The Asus M3A78-T motherboard has 3 x16 PCI-E slots on it. The top PCI-E slot is fully 2.0 compliant, and runs at a full x16 mode. The black PCI-E slot is also fully 2.0 compliant, but runs at x4 speeds only, while the fully 2.0 compliant white slot runs at a maximum of x8 speeds.
The board does support regular crossfire (you would want to run it in the blue and white slots) Crossfire, and hybrid crossfire, which uses the IGP graphics and an add-on card that is compliant.
so for the real enthusiast boards...we will have to wait till 790FX + SB750?
anyone know till how long those roll out?
I'm not really too worried about the PCIe situation. My own benchmark results on my K9A2 showed me that the difference between PCIe 1.0 and 2.0 were small (but favored 1.0) and the difference between running x16-x8 and x16-x16 were marginal if any using my two 4850s. I'll use the x4 slot for my x8 RAID controller. However, if results are lack-lustre, this board will become the mobo for that HTPC machine I've been planning (and postponed until next week).
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Well I have everything except one 4850 that still needs to come in. I have the new board and h20 and 1 4850.. I am assebling tonight...
~1~
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
GigaByte X570 AORUS LITE
Trident-Z 3200 CL14 16GB
AMD Radeon VII
~2~
AMD Ryzen ThreadRipper 2950x
Asus Prime X399-A
GSkill Flare-X 3200mhz, CAS14, 64GB
AMD RX 5700 XT
Hmm i wonder if the new Boards works beter with cold temp on the cpu...Can you get some DI/LN2 to try?Well I have everything except one 4850 that still needs to come in. I have the new board and h20 and 1 4850.. I am assebling tonight...
Yeah !
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HD6970
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I'm thinking about getting the BIOSTAR TA790GX A2+ board, is it any good?
polygon at the rebels haven has it, http://www.rebelshavenforum.com/sis-...113;p=5#000077
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WD 80gb
That looks good, 3.2ghz is very good for a Phenom 9850.
How about getting 3.4 on a 9850 with M3A32-MVP
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Kuma 7750 @ 3.5....http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=560031
Phenom II 940 @4.1<------ http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=501007
9850BE@3.6------- http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=447465
Isn't that an SB600 board?
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
How about getting 3.4 on a 9850 with M3A32-MVP
Is that on all 4 cores or just one....??? Can't tell from that SS...!!!
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2 x 2GB G.SKill PC2-8500 RAM @ 5-5-5-15 2T (Unganged) | 2 x GeCube HD4850's CF @ 700/1150
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Kazgirl: Thats all 4 cores running at that speed
Last edited by HondaGuy; 08-10-2008 at 09:12 AM.
i7 860 Batch # L933B378
ASUS Maximus III Formula
Koolance CPU-360
G.Skill 1600 7-7-7-24
Sapphire 5770
i7 860 @ 4.213 http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=986383
Phenom II 550 X4 @4.160(MA790X-UD4P) http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=652117
Phenom II 550 X2 @ 4.1(MA790X-UD4P) http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=638438
Kuma 7750 @ 3.5....http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=560031
Phenom II 940 @4.1<------ http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=501007
9850BE@3.6------- http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=447465
Yes it is.
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Wow thats amazing OC you must have got a really nice 9850 there...!!Kazgirl: Thats all 4 cores running at that speed
With SB750 then you might be able to get even more.... a possible 3.6Ghz..?? or dare I say it... 4.0Ghz...
Phenom II 940BE (CACVC AC 0850BPMW) @ 3.8Ghz (1.475v) on Custom h2O
ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe - BIOS v0703 - HT @ 1.8Ghz / NB @ 2.2Ghz / PCIE @ 100Mhz
2 x 2GB G.SKill PC2-8500 RAM @ 5-5-5-15 2T (Unganged) | 2 x GeCube HD4850's CF @ 700/1150
2 x 160GB Samsung Spinpoints (RAID-0) | 1 x 320GB Seagate 7200.10 (JBOD)
Thermaltake Toughpower 750W PSU | Samsung 206BW 20" LCD Screen
Vista Home Premium 64-bit SP2 / Win7 Ultimate Beta 64-bit
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3DMark Vantage Score = P13403 - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=791574
3DMark06 Score = 20027 - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9996881
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4ghz on air.
that would be the best chip ever made from AMD.
HAVE NO FEAR!
"AMD fallen angel"
You didn't get the memo? 1 hour 'Fugger time' is equal to 12 hours of regular time.
Probably won't see much over 3.7Ghz on air.
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I know... my first is the serious hope for, and the second just a wish for
Chances are that its already maxed out, just been lucky with that CPU probably the cores are more skew tolerant already, so ACC with SB750 most likely won't give any benefits..... well maybe voltage...!!!
Phenom II 940BE (CACVC AC 0850BPMW) @ 3.8Ghz (1.475v) on Custom h2O
ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe - BIOS v0703 - HT @ 1.8Ghz / NB @ 2.2Ghz / PCIE @ 100Mhz
2 x 2GB G.SKill PC2-8500 RAM @ 5-5-5-15 2T (Unganged) | 2 x GeCube HD4850's CF @ 700/1150
2 x 160GB Samsung Spinpoints (RAID-0) | 1 x 320GB Seagate 7200.10 (JBOD)
Thermaltake Toughpower 750W PSU | Samsung 206BW 20" LCD Screen
Vista Home Premium 64-bit SP2 / Win7 Ultimate Beta 64-bit
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3DMark06 Score = 20027 - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9996881
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