"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[truehighroller]

Ok well I have a verdict it came down to the processor...... I swapped to my old q6600 and the install went smooth. I'm thinking of getting a dual core..

[jVIDIA]

miguelca => My 24/7 settings

[Kartoff]

Can someone tell me if my motherboard looks bent? This is a pic of one of the northbridge cooling fins. I noticed that I had a really hard time installing my OCZ Vendetta 2 CPU cooler and think it might have warped my board a bit.

It is normally to bent without a backplate... Thats the reason i dont use coolers without backplate...

[miguelca]

Muito obrigado / Thanks a lot, jVIDIA!

More suggestions are welcome.

miguelca => My 24/7 settings

[wongnog]

Agggh I need help people! All I did was change Performance Level from 08 to 05, but now my board won't post! After calling ASUS tech support, I tried the following procedures: 1) Unplug PSU. 2) Remove CMOS battery. 3) Switch clear CMOS jumper from pins 1+2 to 2+3 for 20 seconds. 4) Replace CMOS battery. 5) Switch clear CMOS jumper back to pins 1+2. 6) Plug power back in and turn on computer. Result is no post, no beeps, no display. I was then asked to remove memory dimms and try to power up and see if system would beep in error, but board still won't post. They said sorry you have to send the board in for repair or RMA. I'm so upset that changing one itty bitty bios setting would completely brick my board! Can anyone here help me please?

[cadaveca]

I had similar issues, which prompted me to swap to the back-up bios chip, by swapping the sockets they are in. Give that a try..if it doesn't work, then try overnight CMOS clear, and if THAT doesn't work, then RMA the bugger.

[wongnog]

I had similar issues, which prompted me to swap to the back-up bios chip, by swapping the sockets they are in. Give that a try..if it doesn't work, then try overnight CMOS clear, and if THAT doesn't work, then RMA the bugger.

I don't think that's in the motherboard manual... Do you have some instructions you could provide me? Pictures if possible? And does this involve anything "scary" like soldering?

[wongnog]

Oh mother fracker. I think my P5Q-E is fried! I took it out to see about swapping the bios chips, but then noticed the EATX12V connector was burnt BLACK in places. I have an OCZ GameXstream 600W, they come with a 1 x 4+4-pin CPU connector, but I had only plugged 1 of the 4 pins in (I left the black caps on one half of the EATX12V connector). I really don't know if that was a mistake but honestly I was confused by the motherboard and my psu manual in this regard. Here is a picture of the damage:

[Seanie's Show]

Oh mother fracker. I think my P5Q-E is fried! I took it out to see about swapping the bios chips, but then noticed the EATX12V connector was burnt BLACK in places. I have an OCZ GameXstream 600W, they come with a 1 x 4+4-pin CPU connector, but I had only plugged 1 of the 4 pins in (I left the black caps on one half of the EATX12V connector). I really don't know if that was a mistake but honestly I was confused by the motherboard and my psu manual in this regard. Here is a picture of the damage:

OMG, bet your pissed, when you get a replacement board do not plug that PSU back into it, this is the 3rd time I have seen one of those OCZ modular PSU's do this to equiptment, the other two being me, where once one of my hard drives died, as you do I thought it a faulty hard drive, so I RMA'd it, it was a Seagate 7200.10, got my replacement back from seagate, installed and set windows up on it, 2 days later, both hard drives died at exactly the same time, they were not the only things that came out of my machine and got chucked across the room, I now have a coolermaster real power 850w PSU and never had any problems.

The culprit was my OCZ ModXtreme 850w PSU, it was only a few months old before it started killing things in my machine, this was about 6 months ago.

[xTKxhom3r]

dang thanks for the info bro now im never going to buy a ocz powersupply lol but anyways what do you guys think about this?

i have ocz ddr2 1200 ram flexII and when i open up memset i get this (notice the memory info at the top)


and when i click on the spd it gives me the correct info on my ram


but on cpu-z it doesnt give me anything


what could be the problem? is my memory taking a or is it just not compatible with my board?

[wongnog]

OMG, bet your pissed, when you get a replacement board do not plug that PSU back into it, this is the 3rd time I have seen one of those OCZ modular PSU's do this to equiptment, the other two being me, where once one of my hard drives died, as you do I thought it a faulty hard drive, so I RMA'd it, it was a Seagate 7200.10, got my replacement back from seagate, installed and set windows up on it, 2 days later, both hard drives died at exactly the same time, they were not the only things that came out of my machine and got chucked across the room, I now have a coolermaster real power 850w PSU and never had any problems.

The culprit was my OCZ ModXtreme 850w PSU, it was only a few months old before it started killing things in my machine, this was about 6 months ago.

Oh greeaaaat good to hear. OCZ has been great to me for RMAs, especially because I live close to the Canadian head office. I bought the PSU almost two years ago tho so I don't know if it will still be under warranty. Right now the system is booting up fine, instead of plugging the 4-pin burnt connector I am using the other 4-pin connector into the spot originally covered by the black plug. Once I get a new board and PSU I will for sure plug all 8 in. In the meantime I'm dialing down my Q6600 overclock from 8x444 to 9x333!

[wongnog]

what could be the problem? is my memory taking a or is it just not compatible with my board?

You just need the more recent version of those programs, they are not reading the P45 chipset correctly. I`m using CPU-Z 1.46 right now and it is displaying the correct SPD info. I don`t use memset so can`t help you there.

[xTKxhom3r]

ah ic i updated cpu-z and it shows the info now thanks! the memset i have is the most recent though dont know why it would show that weird stuff but oh well....anyone have the same memory i do? any stability issues? i seem to have alot with this memory

[xTKxhom3r]

dang i knew i had problems with my ram but i didnt think they were this bad...i was at 1.3% and i already had 4 errors....

[truehighroller]

dang i knew i had problems with my ram but i didnt think they were this bad...i was at 1.3% and i already had 4 errors....

RMA. I tested mine last night and they passed up to 60% and I stopped it because there obviously wasn't an issue with my memory. I did however fry my Q9450 . I lapped it is the bad thing. Otherwise I could have taken it up and swapped it out at Microcenter (. Intel won't take it back lapped will they?

[Cloud76]

Oh greeaaaat good to hear. OCZ has been great to me for RMAs, especially because I live close to the Canadian head office. I bought the PSU almost two years ago tho so I don't know if it will still be under warranty. Right now the system is booting up fine, instead of plugging the 4-pin burnt connector I am using the other 4-pin connector into the spot originally covered by the black plug. Once I get a new board and PSU I will for sure plug all 8 in. In the meantime I'm dialing down my Q6600 overclock from 8x444 to 9x333!

What?
Do you mean that the fried mobo is still working using the other 4pin that was covered?

[PortCitySlim]

What?
Do you mean that the fried mobo is still working using the other 4pin that was covered?

My thoughts exactly! These things must me tough motherfers


BTW, guys I need to know which setting helps more with RAM, the PL or the Twister...for example. I have had my ram at PL8/Strong and would like to know which setting would boost performance more PL7/Light, Lightest or PL8/Strongest?

[NBF]

My thoughts exactly! These things must me tough motherfers


BTW, guys I need to know which setting helps more with RAM, the PL or the Twister...for example. I have had my ram at PL8/Strong and would like to know which setting would boost performance more PL7/Light, Lightest or PL8/Strongest?

I guess it depends on the rest of the system, it's a good test to do

Best setting stable for 425fsb I could find for my system is PL7/Light/Pull-ins disabled with 1066 RAM.

[PortCitySlim]

I guess it depends on the rest of the system, it's a good test to do

Best setting stable for 425fsb I could find for my system is PL7/Light/Pull-ins disabled with 1066 RAM.

That is where I think I am at on my 1100 ram(1133mhz) but I am also running it with SRC enabled and MemOC Charger eabled, although I have not tested PL7/light yet. PL7/moderate almost passed a 2 hour OCCT ram test. I was going to either test PL8/Strongest or PL7/light next, I still have a bit of juice left to spare on my kit so if I needed to jack up the voltage a bit to get stable I could. I have no software to test how well my RAM is performing so I have no idea how much better my system is running everytime I lower the PL or increase the twister, would be nice if one of you expert guys could go into detail on what exactly each setting is doing and how they work with each other.

[Seanie's Show]

What?
Do you mean that the fried mobo is still working using the other 4pin that was covered?

My thoughts too, I didnt think it worked using just the 4 pins that are covered, I thought you could only use the 4 open pins or 8 pin, but thats my next query, if you had the 8 pins available then why did you only use the 4 pin power connector to start with instead of all 8 ?

[spfoam1]

I am new to Asus boards. The BIOS has many features I am unfamiliar with. The CPU PLL voltage is one such setting. I think it is called the "phase lock loop" voltage. I have been experimenting with it and can conclude it has a major effect on stability at high cpu load. Can someone explain what this does.... and what is going to fry if I set it too high? What is my safe limit with a QX9650? Thanks in advance.

[wongnog]

What? Do you mean that the fried mobo is still working using the other 4pin that was covered?

yes to my exact surprise that is what is happening! I have a picture of the CPU1 4 pin connector from my PSU, you can clearly see where it's fried the mobo. So I used the other CPU2 4 pin connector and plugged it in to the 4 pin part of the mobo that was covered. Needless to say once I get my new psu and mobo I will plug BOTH 4 pin connectors in!!!

My thoughts too, I didnt think it worked using just the 4 pins that are covered, I thought you could only use the 4 open pins or 8 pin, but thats my next query, if you had the 8 pins available then why did you only use the 4 pin power connector to start with instead of all 8 ?

I honestly didn't know that's what I was supposed to do, because my old board only had a 4 pin cpu connector on it. I thought that 4 of the 8 pins were closed for a reason, and I thought my PSU's 2x4-pin CPU plugs were meant for 2 physical CPUs. I should have known better since I have a quad core but I guess I didn't do enough research/reading before building my new system.

[Seanie's Show]

yes to my exact surprise that is what is happening! I have a picture of the CPU1 4 pin connector from my PSU, you can clearly see where it's fried the mobo. So I used the other CPU2 4 pin connector and plugged it in to the 4 pin part of the mobo that was covered. Needless to say once I get my new psu and mobo I will plug BOTH 4 pin connectors in!!!


I honestly didn't know that's what I was supposed to do, because my old board only had a 4 pin cpu connector on it. I thought that 4 of the 8 pins were closed for a reason, and I thought my PSU's 2x4-pin CPU plugs were meant for 2 physical CPUs. I should have known better since I have a quad core but I guess I didn't do enough research/reading before building my new system.

Never mind mate, now you know, glad your board is still working, hopefully with a bit of luck all you have blown is the rail on the PSU and not damaged the board, do you have another PSU you can try on it to see if that burnt 4 pin plug on the board is still working ?, im a bit worried for you that whoever you brought it from wont RMA it for you, the 2 reasons behing this is: 1 dont you have a beta bios on it, beats void the warranty and 2: the board damage wasnt caused by the board itself, it was caused by a 3rd party device, and this is clearly visible from the burn marks, but you can but ask.

I think 600w PSU maybe a little bit to low also for your system, especially with this board and a Quad, along with your memory etc dont forget that the Q6600 draws 95w from you PSU, before any overclocking, and with overclocking can draw as much as 175w alone, plus what the board, board features like onboard sound, RAID etc, Mem, Harddrives, GFX card, CD/DVD drives etc are pulling out of it, if you are constantly exceeding this 600w that your PSU supplies this could lead to the death of the PSU and as it dies it gives one last massive surge of power, KBOOM, burn marks appear.

There is a PSU calculator here, which will give you a rough idea of the wattage of PSU you should look into getting, to be safe I would recommend getting something slightly higher than what it recommends, just to compensate as it a little out of date, especially with higher drawing GFX cards now-a-days:

http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/

you have suprised alot of guys in this forum, by showing us that you can just use the covered 4 pins on there own, I dont think any of us was aware of this, I know I wasnt, and probably wouldnt of tried or tested it either.

[wongnog]

There is a PSU calculator here, which will give you a rough idea of the wattage of PSU you should look into getting, to be safe I would recommend getting something slightly higher than what it recommends, just to compensate as it a little out of date, especially with higher drawing GFX cards now-a-days:

http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/

Thanks for the link, I filled it out and even overestimated some items. It reported a recommend psu of 434 w (that's for 20% capacitor aging). So hopefully a replacement 600 w GameXStream should be okay?

Lucky for me I am picking up a new PSU from OCZ today, and NCIX is shipping me a new P5Q-E for free. Ground shipping though so it'll take a few days to get here... but in the mean time I could try plugging in the new psu into the burnt out 4-pin cpu plug and see if it posts or not. But it sounds like a bit of a risky experiment don't you think? I just picture those pins being fried and trying to plug power into it causing smoke and fire!

[truehighroller]

Thanks for the link, I filled it out and even overestimated some items. It reported a recommend psu of 434 w (that's for 20% capacitor aging). So hopefully a replacement 600 w GameXStream should be okay?

Lucky for me I am picking up a new PSU from OCZ today, and NCIX is shipping me a new P5Q-E for free. Ground shipping though so it'll take a few days to get here... but in the mean time I could try plugging in the new psu into the burnt out 4-pin cpu plug and see if it posts or not. But it sounds like a bit of a risky experiment don't you think? I just picture those pins being fried and trying to plug power into it causing smoke and fire!

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