Asus P5E3 Premium Wi-fi-AP

[Pisklink]

But i am suprised not to find compatible 2GB high speed module in the QVL list .

I'm suprised there is a lack of other well known brands that are not on this list. I guess it isn't updated anymore. Luckily at Corsair they make a compatibility list of their own. Now I hope this list is up to date and the modules will work.

@ Soapman

At what voltage are you running your NB? And how did you place active cooling on the NB (used the fans that were included with the board)?

[soapman72]

I'm suprised there is a lack of other well known brands that are not on this list. I guess it isn't updated anymore. Luckily at Corsair they make a compatibility list of their own. Now I hope this list is up to date and the modules will work.

@ Soapman

At what voltage are you running your NB? And how did you place active cooling on the NB (used the fans that were included with the board)?

I am currently running 1.65v on the NB. I could get away with 1.61v at a command rate of 2N, and at that setting my system was completely stable. Your board may need 2 clicks more or less than my setting, so obviously run no more than you need---I believe I am pushing the board very hard.

As for the cooler....It is kinda funny how things work out, but I purchased a Corsair cooler to keep the platinum ram cool. The ram didn't want to play nice no matter what........The cooler wont fit over Reaper modules because of the heatpipe.......I took the cooler apart, and it is just (3) 40mm fans wired together, so I removed the metal housing, so nothing would short out on my board or video card, and I ised plastic zip ties to strap them together using the mounting holes in the corners of the fans.......once they were strapped together, I used 2 more zip ties around the heatpipes at each end of the NB heatsink, and strapped the whole assembly to the NB cooler. It worked out very well, and doesn't even look too ghetto, even though I don't care much. 6000 rpm x 3 fans equals a happy NB...... I hope!

It is not even noisy. I think I got the cooler at tiger direct or Zip Zoom fly for around $25

[btdvox]

Any Water Blocks for this motherboard you guys reccomend?
I was going to wait for the rampage extreme but they'll prob charge 500 bucks for that board in canada, Seems this board is very good with latest bios.

I have a QX9650, 4 GB of G skill 2X2GB DDR3-1600 and going to get 2- 4870x2

[djstx2003]

I'm back again with good results.
Here are my settings, at 3.6Ghz Finally STABLE.
I was running Prime 95 for 10 hours without any errors.

My System:
CPU: Intel QX9650 - batch L744B175
MOBO: ASUS P5E3 Premium Wi-Fi / Bios 0505
RAM: Corsair Dominator XMS3 TW3X4G4096-1800C8DF (1800Mhz) 2x2GB
GPU: Asus Ati HD2900XT 512MB (soon Ati 4870x2)
PSU: ENERMAX Galaxy 1000 Watt

My settings:
CPU Ratio = 8.0
FSB Strap = 333
FSB Freq = 450
PCIE Freq = 105
DRAM Freq = 1800
Command Rate = 1N
Timings = 8,8,8,22
DRAM Static Read Control = Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control = Disabled
CPU Voltage = 1.12500 (Bios)
DRAM Voltage = 1.80
NB Voltage= 1.55
Load Line Calibration = Normal
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
Memory Remap Feature = Enabled
Vanderpool Technology= disabled
All other settings is auto.
CPU temp = 36
MOBO Temp = 37
with Watercooling system of course

Regardz

djstx2003

[Pisklink]

I am currently running 1.65v on the NB. I could get away with 1.61v at a command rate of 2N, and at that setting my system was completely stable. Your board may need 2 clicks more or less than my setting, so obviously run no more than you need---I believe I am pushing the board very hard.

You put quiet a lot of voltage on the NB indeed. You seem to get it right with the 2 clicks less as you can see in the current settings I used as provided at the end of this post.

As for the cooler....It is kinda funny how things work out, but I purchased a Corsair cooler to keep the platinum ram cool. The ram didn't want to play nice no matter what........The cooler wont fit over Reaper modules because of the heatpipe.......I took the cooler apart, and it is just (3) 40mm fans wired together, so I removed the metal housing, so nothing would short out on my board or video card, and I ised plastic zip ties to strap them together using the mounting holes in the corners of the fans.......once they were strapped together, I used 2 more zip ties around the heatpipes at each end of the NB heatsink, and strapped the whole assembly to the NB cooler. It worked out very well, and doesn't even look too ghetto, even though I don't care much. 6000 rpm x 3 fans equals a happy NB...... I hope!

Yesterday I tried something similar when I turned up the voltages of the NB and DRAM a bit more to try to get things stable because I'm getting sick of 3rd week of trial and error. I put a 80 mm fan on my vidcard aimed at the DRAM mainly but the NB took some advantage of this fresh air as well. Before I got to sleep I tried some gaming for an hour and it seemed stable. I tried to remove the fan when everything immediately crashed.

I already order the OCZ XTC cooler but the brackets won't fit with my vidcard. Luckily I can sell it to a friend of mine for the retail price. When I'm buying the Corsair memory there will also be the airflow fan included and I want to use it for the memory ofcourse. But maybe I can mount the 80mm fan on the D-Tek CPU block. I also want to remove the blue Asus shield but how did you do that because I read it is kinda hard to remove?!?

These are my current settings:

Ai Overclock Tuner = Manual
eXtreme Memory Profile = Disabled
CPU Ratio Setting = 9
FSB Strap to Northbridge = 400
FSB = 450

DRAM Timing Control = Manual
DRAM Frequency = DDR3-1800
DRAM Command Rate = 2N
DRAM Timing Control = Manual
CAS# Latency = 8
RAS# to CAS# Delay = 8
RAS# PRE Time = 7
RAS# ACT Time = 24
All Else to Auto

DRAM Static Read Control = Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control = Disabled

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2 = 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2 = 300

Ai Clock Twister = Auto
Transaction Booster = Auto (gray setting gives an indication of PL7)

CPU Voltage = 1.44375v
CPU GTL 0/2 = 0.67
CPU GTL 1/3 = 0.67
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.58v
FSB Termination Voltage = 1.28v
DRAM Voltage = 1.98v (active cooled with 80mm fan)
NB Voltage = 1.57v
NB GTL = 0.61
SB Voltage = Auto

Clock Over-Charging Voltage = Auto
Load Line Calibration = Performance
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
CPU CLK skew = Auto
NB CLK skew = Auto

All energy saving options are disabled.

[soapman72]

I never removed my blue ASUS shield. I don't think it is worth it. With the smaller 40mm fans 60% of the fans that are over the ahield are NOT blocked by the shield, and I have no stability issues. I wan't to maintain some sort of resale value to this board when upgrade time comes around.


With regard to the NB voltage. Your board performs almost exactly the same as mine, since I was running 1.57v on the NB when I had the CPU running 3.8ghz (450x8.5) Moving up the othe 9x multi required a bump to 1.61v and setting In required 1.65v

Higher multiplyers mean faster CPU speeds which mean more thruput which mean more stress on the NB which means more Vnb to keep things stable. I would bet that it is your 1600mhz Platinums that are the source of your headaches. My system was a nightmare with them, but it has been awesome since the Reapers. Not one lock up or BSOD in well over a month. Not to mention, it passes all the stress tests, at least for as long as I care to run them. I went as long as 6 hours on prime 95, and MANY people will say that if you don't go for 12 or 24 hours, then you don't know for sure. Technically, they may be right, but when the test runs for 6 hours and the computer plays games, surfs the net, and burns DVD's without crashing any apps, hten it is good enough for me. I see no reason to beat up my equipment any longer than that.

[Pisklink]

Would it be possible for you to post a photo of the fans mounted on the NB? I was thinking to get myself a Antec Coolspot when I can't find any 40mm or 60mm fans.

The thing I still don't get is why I need such tremendous amount of vcore to get the E8400 stable?!? Do you have any idea or is just a bad batch? That's something I didn't really expect and I'm almost inclined to sell the bastard and get me a E8500 / E8600. However, I was planning such an upgrade somewhere in the beginning of next year when Nehalem is released and prices would drop.

[Pyr0]

I've settled for 500 fsb with 1600 mem for now as it only needs fairly low voltages even with 4x1GB and 1N, and still gives pretty good bandwidth results in Everest.

With the following settings, I've passed dual 32m HyperPI, 4 hours of Orthos small ffts, 4hrs of blend, 3DMmark & PCMark Vantage and had no probs playing GRID for the last hour or so

Ai Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Ratio Setting = 8.0
FSB Strap to Northbridge = 333
FSB Frequency = 500
PCIe Frequency = 100
DRAM Frequency = DDR3-1600
DRAM Command Rate = 1N
DRAM Timing Control = Manual
CAS# Latency = 7
RAS# to CAS# Delay = 6
RAS# PRE Time = 5
RAS# ACT Time = 15
REF Cycle Time = 72
WRITE To PRE Delay = 22
READ To PRE Delay = 5

DRAM Static Read Control = Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control = Disabled

DRAM CMD Skew on Channel A = Delay 75ps
DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM A1 = Delay 75ps
DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM A2 = Delay 75ps
DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM A1 = Auto
DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM A2 = Auto

DRAM CMD Skew on Channel B = Delay 150ps
DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM B1 = Delay 150ps
DRAM CLK Skew on DIMM B2 = Delay 150ps
DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM B1 = Auto
DRAM CTL Skew on DIMM B2 = Auto

Ai Clock Twister = Strong
Transaction Booster = Manual
Common Performance Level = 08
Pull-In's Disabled for now

CPU Voltage = 1.31250v
CPU GTL 0/2 = Auto
CPU GTL 1/3 = Auto
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.54v
FSB Termination Voltage = 1.20v
DRAM Voltage = 1.82v
NB Voltage = 1.39v
NB GTL = 0.61
SB Voltage = Auto
Clock Over-Charging Voltage = Auto

Load Line Calibration = Normal
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
CPU CLK skew = Delay 400ps
NB CLK skew = Delay 200ps

BIOS screens


Hyper Pi and Everest


Orthos runs


3DMark & PCMark Vantage

[Pisklink]

Thanks for all the info dude. I just don't seem te get it why I need so much voltage on all settings (CPU, NB and DRAM) to get things stable at 4Ghz. If I lower one of them my system will not boot or will crash during Windows startup. I really hope it has nothing to do with the board since I don't want to disassemble my whole comp. again!!!!

[Pyr0]

You're welcome m8, hope it helps someone
Took me a while to get it stable and keep the voltages low.
With the voltages set as they are now, but with 1.80V set for DRAM, I tested the mem with a 400fsb and an 8 multi on the CPU. I tested the sticks separately, one by one at 2N and went through all of the CLK skews for that dimm, testing and taking notes to see which ones seemed the strongest.
Before finding the right skews, I found I was increasing voltages with little or no gains in stability

[pumbertot]

You're welcome m8, hope it helps someone
Took me a while to get it stable and keep the voltages low.
With the voltages set as they are now, but with 1.80V set for DRAM, I tested the mem with a 400fsb and an 8 multi on the CPU. I tested the sticks separately, one by one at 2N and went through all of the CLK skews for that dimm, testing and taking notes to see which ones seemed the strongest.
Before finding the right skews, I found I was increasing voltages with little or no gains in stability

wow, the voltages are real low. going to give your settings a try at some point, but i have a suspicion you just have a great board there.

[Pisklink]

....but i have a suspicion you just have a great board there.

I don't know but from my experience it seems that when you adjust a setting by one notch while the system seemed stable it already van me the difference between stable and totally crashing.

[btdvox]

I'm back again with good results.
Here are my settings, at 3.6Ghz Finally STABLE.
I was running Prime 95 for 10 hours without any errors.

My System:
CPU: Intel QX9650 - batch L744B175
MOBO: ASUS P5E3 Premium Wi-Fi / Bios 0505
RAM: Corsair Dominator XMS3 TW3X4G4096-1800C8DF (1800Mhz) 2x2GB
GPU: Asus Ati HD2900XT 512MB (soon Ati 4870x2)
PSU: ENERMAX Galaxy 1000 Watt

My settings:
CPU Ratio = 8.0
FSB Strap = 333
FSB Freq = 450
PCIE Freq = 105
DRAM Freq = 1800
Command Rate = 1N
Timings = 8,8,8,22
DRAM Static Read Control = Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control = Disabled
CPU Voltage = 1.12500 (Bios)
DRAM Voltage = 1.80
NB Voltage= 1.55
Load Line Calibration = Normal
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
Memory Remap Feature = Enabled
Vanderpool Technology= disabled
All other settings is auto.
CPU temp = 36
MOBO Temp = 37
with Watercooling system of course

Regardz

djstx2003

If your WC your CPU wouldnt you want to go higher with your QX9650 or just too worried?

Im running 4.2 with a DTEK fuzion, at 65 Load!

[djstx2003]

If your WC your CPU wouldnt you want to go higher with your QX9650 or just too worried?

Im running 4.2 with a DTEK fuzion, at 65 Load!

yes i can go higher but i don't need it. i'm happy at 3.6GHz.
my pc is running great.

[nick2006]

Im running 4.2 with a DTEK fuzion, at 65 Load!

Are you STABLE though ?? With what voltages ?? Do you use 1800Mhz ram or less with more relaxed timings ?? All these do matter...

I f u can share your settings we'd be grateful.

[btdvox]

Are you STABLE though ?? With what voltages ?? Do you use 1800Mhz ram or less with more relaxed timings ?? All these do matter...

I f u can share your settings we'd be grateful.

Hi Im 100% stable but not with this motherboard I hav ea 780i and Im looking to upgrade, Im right now stable at 1600 (400) X 10.5 @ 1.39 volts after vdroop, 1.43 w/o.

I have it cooled via water on a PA120.2
and am using DDR2-1200 ram at 5-5-5-12 so my ram is still very aggressive comparing to ddr3 ram.

What Im wanting is to keep the same OC on the CPU and get DDR3-1800 at 7-7-7-18-1t w/ G skill's HZ ddr3-1600 7-7-7-18 kit, I hear many saying there able to using this motherboard, Its definitely one of my choices the otherb eing the foxconn blackops but that seems like a tough board to OC.

I would assme that if i have a OC on the 780i the intel board can keep the same OC, I always hear that Intel boards are always better.

Im thinking of going Crossfire this time round so.

[Tony]

This is funny!!!! I know you had trouble with your OCZ 1600Mhz memory since I'm also one of those poor little bastards that is trying to get his memory stable for about 2 weeks now day after day. I read your thread on the OCZ forum since you had some similar problem as I have. You can read my thread here which is an awful lot of reading.

I don't know but it seems this board is really picky with 1600Mhz memory and especially with OCZ's. I think I will bring my current kit back to the store and get me some 2Gb 1800Mhz Corsair memory instead. It will cost me twice as much in the hope it will run twice as good.

Even when you look at the QVL from this board there are not many modules to choose from. It's a shame Asus doens't test anymore modules or doesn't update this list more frequently.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=41042

have a read, I have been busy

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...75&postcount=4 link to post with profiles

[sauria]

Great, thanks Pyr0

[Pisklink]

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=41042

have a read, I have been busy

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...75&postcount=4 link to post with profiles

I have to admit that I bought new memory yesterday and returned the 1600 ones. Nonetheless I think these links can be very usefull for other P5E3-Premium users. So thank you very much for the links and all the hard work!!!! When I hear people across the net having problems getting there memory stable I will certainly recommend these links.

[jeanjean15]

Since i have returned my ocz platinum 1600 because of RMA , i bought Corsair in the meantime to known if this motherboard is really so difficult to overclock .
And the answer is : NO ! The raison : the OCZ i had was effectively the first raison of my big trouble !

I hope it will not be the same problem with the reaper 1800 i wait from OCZ to replace the platinum .
At that moment , i will know if i sell back the corsair or the ocz and will keep the best of course !

[soapman72]

Since i have returned my ocz platinum 1600 because of RMA , i bought Corsair in the meantime to known if this motherboard is really so difficult to overclock .
And the answer is : NO ! The raison : the OCZ i had was effectively the first raison of my big trouble !

I hope it will not be the same problem with the reaper 1800 i wait from OCZ to replace the platinum .
At that moment , i will know if i sell back the corsair or the ocz and will keep the best of course !

If you have trouble with the new memory, shoot me a message, and I'll try to help you. I had no trouble with mine, but people with quad cores may have a more difficult time because of issues with getting the quad core stable at 450mhz FSB.

[nick2006]

Is there a way (some program) to see which is the batch number of my cpu (intel QX9650) ???

THANX

[EDIT]

I found from the CPU box that mine (FPO/BATCH #) is L740B300. It also says VERSION #: E2348-002 1.25V max

Is this good or bad regarding any O/C attempts ???

[Tony]

Since i have returned my ocz platinum 1600 because of RMA , i bought Corsair in the meantime to known if this motherboard is really so difficult to overclock .
And the answer is : NO ! The raison : the OCZ i had was effectively the first raison of my big trouble !

I hope it will not be the same problem with the reaper 1800 i wait from OCZ to replace the platinum .
At that moment , i will know if i sell back the corsair or the ocz and will keep the best of course !

Its nothing to do with one brand Vs another, its to do with the IC's used, their binning and how to tune the board to suit them. I hope the modules did not run spec as RMAing just because the modules failed to overclock as high as you wanted costs OCZ a lot of money.

In tech support you learn that many people just don't have the patience to sit with a board and learn what works and what does not, some IC types need very little tweaking to get stable, some need a ton of tweaking. I have been working with this board for 3 days now, 10hrs a day as our tech support dept flagged it as a problem board with many having issues setting the board up with high speed dimms.
There are a lot of factors you guys fail to really talk about, such things as X48 chipset yield, QC of the build of the boards and sharing OC profiles. I see a ton of posts showing bios setup when all you have to do is post up the profile CMO file and let others try it out.

So to address your 1600 plats not doing to well, they are a more tightly binned module and really do not have the headroom of other modules. Better kits for overclocking are the 1800 or the 1333EB kits which use the high bin Micron IC's. Also if 1GB modules are all that is needed the 1600Flex 6-6-6-24 modules are awesome...although they are harder to set up due to the voltage and frequent skew requirements.

[djstx2003]

Is there a way (some program) to see which is the batch number of my cpu (intel QX9650) ???

THANX

[EDIT]

I found from the CPU box that mine (FPO/BATCH #) is L740B300. It also says VERSION #: E2348-002 1.25V max

Is this good or bad regarding any O/C attempts ???

you can look here my friend:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...t=Intel+QX9770

hope it helps you. be well.

[jeanjean15]

Its nothing to do with one brand Vs another, its to do with the IC's used, their binning and how to tune the board to suit them. I hope the modules did not run spec as RMAing just because the modules failed to overclock as high as you wanted costs OCZ a lot of money.

Not at all . Since one month , i tried to use my ocz kit at their specified timming .
I lost a lot of time to try to succeed but it was impossible .
I make clear that i am not a beginner in overclocking .

Even at bios default setting, my system was freezing !

I bought a very expensive motherboard and memory kit not to have such nightmare !

I don't know how is responsible : asus, intel or ocz . It is not my work to know the reason .

All what i see is that i had got a lot of errors with memtest 2.01 and this ocz kit .

If i had known i will have such problem , i would have bought a asus rampage motherboard and ddr2 !!