"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[Polizei]

Dont wish to rub salt into any of you guys wounds, but this makes me so glad that I brought the P5Q-E version rather than the Deluxe, I didnt go for the Deluxe cos if the 16 phase power curcuit, we have done with 8 for all these years, who needs 16, and really you could say the 8 phase is really 12 as the NB and the memory have 2 seperate all of their own.

Not had any problems with any of the bioses on the E, although the new one 1003 is rock solid stable, and allows my same overclock with less voltage and slightly tighter timmings on my RAM.

By that same token, you could say the Deluxe has 20phase power.

[wongnog]

Can someone tell me if my motherboard looks bent? This is a pic of one of the northbridge cooling fins. I noticed that I had a really hard time installing my OCZ Vendetta 2 CPU cooler and think it might have warped my board a bit.

[truehighroller]

Can someone tell me if my motherboard looks bent? This is a pic of one of the northbridge cooling fins. I noticed that I had a really hard time installing my OCZ Vendetta 2 CPU cooler and think it might have warped my board a bit.

Looks bent to me. So is there a way for me to force a flash onto the bad flashed one? By putting it back in the second bios slot and doing a command through DOS? I am scared to try to downgrade the bios that is left standing you know? I would rather try to bring the other one back to life then do that if possible..

[wongnog]

Looks bent to me.

Agggh that's what I thought. Should I get it RMA'd? It's within my 30 days through NCIX. I'm worried that the heatsink is not touching those chips anymore. I will be smarter next time and will NOT install a cpu heatsink with the motherboard still in the chassis ever again!

[cadaveca]

I remebered seeing someone saying that they had popped out their other BIOS chip and flashed it to the newer one because they were having wierd issues. I did this and the flash ruined the chip inopperable.. I took that chip and stuck it in my drawer.....

Yeah, I mentioned flashing back-up bios to OFFICIAL bios, not a beta, or newly released one.


BIOS chips can be hotflashed. You boot he board with the chip barely in the socket, when @ dos prompt, pull good chip, put in bad, and flash away.

But I don't recommend this if you have not done it before, you can easily screw things up worse.

And it actually sounds like you forgot tho change HDD set-up or something...are run in AHCI mode with IDE driver?

[Leeghoofd]

Dont wish to rub salt into any of you guys wounds, but this makes me so glad that I brought the P5Q-E version rather than the Deluxe, I didnt go for the Deluxe cos if the 16 phase power curcuit, we have done with 8 for all these years, who needs 16, and really you could say the 8 phase is really 12 as the NB and the memory have 2 seperate all of their own.

Not had any problems with any of the bioses on the E, although the new one 1003 is rock solid stable, and allows my same overclock with less voltage and slightly tighter timmings on my RAM.

What's the point in your post ? 1103 has been working fab from day one on my rig and on many others... only bios 0901 needed some slight alterations to be stable... for the rest didn't have any issues with aplpha or beta biosses at all... and your phase claim is absolute

Highrollers issues could be due to a corrupt flash... an old resident setting, ram dying, whatever...

a reflash, pop the battery, might do the trick...

Agggh that's what I thought. Should I get it RMA'd? It's within my 30 days through NCIX. I'm worried that the heatsink is not touching those chips anymore. I will be smarter next time and will NOT install a cpu heatsink with the motherboard still in the chassis ever again!

Your board bends due to the crap mount of the OCZ cooler with it's push pin design, the board is fine no need to RMA, if you use another cooler it will be straight again. This is why I prefer high end coolers as they have a back plate and prevent boards from bending...also the Dlx has backplates on the mosfets and co making it more rigid then the E version... but we seem to have crappy biosses lol

[truehighroller]

Yeah, I mentioned flashing back-up bios to OFFICIAL bios, not a beta, or newly released one.


BIOS chips can be hotflashed. You boot he board with the chip barely in the socket, when @ dos prompt, pull good chip, put in bad, and flash away.

But I don't recommend this if you have not done it before, you can easily screw things up worse.

And it actually sounds like you forgot tho change HDD set-up or something...are run in AHCI mode with IDE driver?

I have the drives running in raid. I didn't change anything as far as that goes. I just set the raid up and ran it fine like I said up until the flash and boom everything went to hell. I don't have a chip puller, I don't know if that is what you mean by screwing it worse or not, by touching the pins while it is running is that why you say you can screw things up worse?

[truehighroller]

What's the point in your post ? 1103 has been working fab from day one on my rig and on many others... only bios 0901 needed some slight alterations to be stable... for the rest didn't have any issues with aplpha or beta biosses at all... and your phase claim is absolute

Highrollers issues could be due to a corrupt flash... an old resident setting, ram dying, whatever...

a reflash, pop the battery, might do the trick...

That's what I'm thinking this might be memory related and some how the bios file got corrupted while downloading it or flashing it even. I will have to do more troubleshooting tonight. I will admit this is a rare case not something that hapens every day to people with this board. I am seriously thinking more and more this is memory related. This is the same thing that happened to my last board that I thought that I borked by shorting the fan plug on it and it started happening after pushing my shiznit hard so,, kind of my fault here probably..

[Pntgrd]

truehighroller, have you tried turning the system off, pulling the power cord and then press the start button for a moment, and then remove the battery for 10-15 minutes. Then put it all back rogether and see what happens.

[Martin.v.r]

bios 1103 got bug ? stramp 400,333 is ok

[truehighroller]

truehighroller, have you tried turning the system off, pulling the power cord and then press the start button for a moment, and then remove the battery for 10-15 minutes. Then put it all back rogether and see what happens.

I will tonight but, everything reset its settings back to default when I switched the bios chips so I don't know if it will help though. I am going to have fun with this tonight that is for sure. What about the thing the helpfull person said about hot swapping the bios chip and getting it to force flash back to whatever bios version. Should I be carefull not to touch the prongs when hot swapping them is that what you were talking about when you said that you can mess things up worse if you have not done it before or am I missing something else here?

[cadaveca]

Yes, you got it exactly. you can put a peice of tape on the chips to make this a non-issue...you jsut have to pull it out really quick, and really straight, same goes for plugging the old one back in.

I'm sure you set bios back to raid, but it sounds like this change isn't happening although you've told it to.

Intel techs(from speaking with them when I worked in pc store) suggest flashing bios with just one DIMM installed, in third slot. Maybe you want to do this as well.

you could have a bad driver in your OS isntall as well..have you tried safe mode?

[truehighroller]

Yes, you got it exactly. you can put a peice of tape on the chips to make this a non-issue...you jsut have to pull it out really quick, and really straight, same goes for plugging the old one back in.

I'm sure you set bios back to raid, but it sounds like this change isn't happening although you've told it to.

Intel techs(from speaking with them when I worked in pc store) suggest flashing bios with just one DIMM installed, in third slot. Maybe you want to do this as well.

you could have a bad driver in your OS isntall as well..have you tried safe mode?

Yah safe mode locks up to though. I actually get a little further with it though. I actually get into the windows desktop then boom "locks up again". The wierdest thing IMO was when I tried to reload Vista completely and it got to where it detects the harddrives and the screen went all screwy on me and everything locked up. It was almost as if some one took a broom and kind of swept the screen and everything was all streaky "I hope you can picture what I am saying here". I am about to leave work now and heading home to start trouble shooting some more but, if you have any other suggestions please tell them as I still have a backup PC at my house so , I will be checking back here shortly.

[Seanie's Show]

What's the point in your post ? 1103 has been working fab from day one on my rig and on many others... only bios 0901 needed some slight alterations to be stable... for the rest didn't have any issues with aplpha or beta biosses at all... and your phase claim is absolute

Highrollers issues could be due to a corrupt flash... an old resident setting, ram dying, whatever...

a reflash, pop the battery, might do the trick...



Your board bends due to the crap mount of the OCZ cooler with it's push pin design, the board is fine no need to RMA, if you use another cooler it will be straight again. This is why I prefer high end coolers as they have a back plate and prevent boards from bending...also the Dlx has backplates on the mosfets and co making it more rigid then the E version... but we seem to have crappy biosses lol

LOL, No point to it at all, your reading into it too much, its just a comment, in my country, we have this thing we call freedom of speech.

[intarweb]

Try to run the sound via normal way... if this works correct then, you could have the same issue as the P5B Dlx in the old days where the digital output was messed up... we swapped several boards then but it was a hardware problem not driver releated...

Doh X_X

Maybe i should try to swap it out then. Kinda bummed; everything else works fine it seems.

Seanie - I'll look into ram problems, too. I don't think I had this problem with the P5Q-E I had before, which I believe has the same audio chipset and digital output config. That board just, instead, wasn't as stable otherwise. The Deluxe has been a lot more stable other than the sound thing. Unfortunately, I never did try teamspeak with the E, so I don't know if it had the pop/click thing. The other thing where I get overwhelmed in static hasn't returned since when it disappeared.

Thank you very much, you guys, for your time and help

[truehighroller]

Update on my situation here. I am sitting here watching my memory pass memtest86 v3.4 so I know it's not what caused the flash to go bad. I'm very disapointed and confused at this point. I thought it woud be the memory. So how do I flash this thing without the ezflash. I know commands in dos prompts and what not so I will be ok doing it. I just want to make sure no matter what the flash goes good..

[TO FAST]

hello,i am new to this forum and i have a question regarding the cpu temeprature, i have a E8400@3.6ghz that is cooled by an noctua u12p and the cpu temperatures maxes out a 56 degress celsius in orthos. is this usual temperatures or are they high?

[Leeghoofd]

Update on my situation here. I am sitting here watching my memory pass memtest86 v3.4 so I know it's not what caused the flash to go bad. I'm very disapointed and confused at this point. I thought it woud be the memory.

I always use one Dimm, a complete default bios and just ram voltage set... I flash via EZ flash, if it reboots correctly I go into bios and set defaults again and reboot... and then start messing with my settings... I never use OC profiles on newer biosses and if the bios behaves weird I just pull the battery for 15 minutes and do a reflash... good luck mate...

hello,i am new to this forum and i have a question regarding the cpu temeprature, i have a E8400@3.6ghz that is cooled by an noctua u12p and the cpu temperatures maxes out a 56 degress celsius in orthos. is this usual temperatures or are they high?

Are those coretemps read out with 95°C Tjcasemax set ? or is it the CPU readout and not the cores ? and by the way Welcome to the forum...

[TO FAST]

Are those coretemps read out with 95°C Tjcasemax set ? or is it the CPU readout and not the cores ? and by the way Welcome to the forum...

They are coretemp readouts with 95°C Tjcasemax. ai suite and bios shows around 12 degrees lower. this with stock vcore (1.2)

[truehighroller]

I always use one Dimm, a complete default bios and just ram voltage set... I flash via EZ flash, if it reboots correctly I go into bios and set defaults again and reboot... and then start messing with my settings... I never use OC profiles on newer biosses and if the bios behaves weird I just pull the battery for 15 minutes and do a reflash... good luck mate...

I will see what happens here I guess. I just hate to use the ezflash again because of what has happened so far here on me. I will try to pull the battery and see if that helps but, this is a new board so no overclocking yet on this bad boy at all.

[Leeghoofd]

They are coretemp readouts with 95°C Tjcasemax. ai suite and bios shows around 12 degrees lower. this with stock vcore (1.2)

think they are prety normal for ya cooling mate... nothing to worry about... keep it under 65°C cores (my safe zone for 24/7) a better cooler might nible off a few degrees but don't expect miracles... you can try to reapply the paste, check ya IHS and cooler for flatness...

[NaMcO]

Did you notice anything special about 1103? Like not needing higher voltages or in other words, for the same overclock being able to lower voltage a bit?

That's the only thing that would make me flash now

[Seanie's Show]

I will see what happens here I guess. I just hate to use the ezflash again because of what has happened so far here on me. I will try to pull the battery and see if that helps but, this is a new board so no overclocking yet on this bad boy at all.

Not so sure it would be a good idea to use EZFlash to flash again, after all EZFlash is a bios based tool, and if your bios is as knackered as you say it is, then this tool could also be faulty and make matters worse.

There is however another tool on the ASUS website which will allow you to boot and flash the bios the old fashion way, pure dos mode, its called Afudos, its in the bios section at the bottom of the page (linked below).

http://support.asus.com/download/dow...l=P5Q%20Deluxe

[truehighroller]

I thnk I might have found the Culprit. I think it might be a flaky Hard drive.. I am at the hard drive screen on one of them right now with two unplugged. The last one I had by itself locked it up. That is what I was wanting was that right there thank you. I will use that from now on because ezflash got my other chip.

[miguelca]

Hello guys and gals!

Tomorrow I'll receive a brand new set of G.Skill DDR2 PC2-8800 PI 4GB (2x2GB).
I know that there are several other members of this forum with the same MB/RAM combination.
Could anybody kindly enlight me with some reasonable settings for these new sticks?
Leeghoofd... jVIDIA... and all the other members, may I bother you with my ignorance?
As I've already mentioned in this thread, I never managed to overclock my actual Corsair memory (see signature) on the P5Q-Deluxe.
Anything beyond 1066MHz failed Prime blend.
If my memory serves me well 1080/1082 takes about 4h30m to fail.
I've also tested a Teamgroup XTreem Dark 1066MHz 4GB kit which IMHO is even worse, requiring more voltage in order to run stable with the same settings I'm now using with the Corsair kit.

I'm actually running my Gaming/OCCT (2h CPU + 2h RAM + 2h MIX in a row)/4x Super PI 32MB/Prime Stable (never tested more than 12h) system with these settings (BIOS 1103):

CPU Ratio Setting: 10
FSB Strap to Northbridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 400
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
PCI-E Frequency: 102
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO

DRAM Timing Control: Manual
Timings: 5-5-5-15, tRFC 50, all other on AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
Mem. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Moderate
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level: 7
Pull-In of CHA PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Enabled

CPU Voltage: 1.41250v
CPU GTL (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL: 1.56v
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.32v
DRAM Voltage: 2.02v
NB Voltage: 1.24v

Loadline Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCI-E Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: AUTO
NB Clock Skew: AUTO
CPU Margin Enhancement: Performance Mode


I think I'm going to start my tests with 1.82v DRAM voltage (due to the huge overvolt).
At this moment I'm praying for the new RAM to work at 1133MHz.
Any suggestions on this?

Thanks in advance for your precious help!
Please cross your fingers and wish me luck with this new RAM, ok?