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    Bah, if I set the VDIMM in the BIOS to anything less than 2.10V my P5B Deluxe won't even boot. I don't know how people are getting 600MHz with anything less than 2.2V. Oh well, at least my aXeRAM will run at that speed...but that's its stock settings. Pretty boring. What kind of northbridge voltages are you guys running who can get DDR2-1200 at such low VDIMM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsamz_ View Post
    i just bought another set 16fd3
    1240mhz 2.02v
    Are 16fd3 good ones? Sorry for the noob question but I have two pairs of Ballistix PC8500 and one is 16fd3. I'll take a look at the second kit tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper.Br View Post
    Are 16fd3 good ones? Sorry for the noob question but I have two pairs of Ballistix PC8500 and one is 16fd3. I'll take a look at the second kit tonight.
    yup my 16fd5 and 16fd3 run 1200+ with 2.02v

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    Thanks zsamz_

    I haven't oc'ed my mempries yet (just my quad), but how much can I expect considering that I'll use only bios, not Windows to change the settings (I'm a noob ).

    EDIT: All my 4 modules are 16fd3. Let's see what I can do with them with no extra cooling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper.Br View Post
    Thanks zsamz_

    I haven't oc'ed my mempries yet (just my quad), but how much can I expect considering that I'll use only bios, not Windows to change the settings (I'm a noob ).

    EDIT: All my 4 modules are 16fd3. Let's see what I can do with them with no extra cooling.
    cool the ram with a fan though lol

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    I have just got a set of older second hand 2x1GB PC5300 CL3 "16FD2"

    Are these supose to be pretty good?

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    I know the 16FD3 were supposed to be the GMH so maybe... what came before that ->?GKX? ... but I doubt that(not sure) -= - only one way to be sure DO IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Qman View Post
    I have just got a set of older second hand 2x1GB PC5300 CL3 "16FD2"

    Are these supose to be pretty good?
    i got some team cas 3 that do 3-3-3-8 @ 830mhz 2.22v no sweat but cant do 1200mhz 2.3v

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    I took stock of a Maximus Formula yesterday that I promptly flashed into a Rampage, and my Ballistix 8500 kit passed memtest at DDR2-1200 with VDIMM set to 2.2V in the BIOS. Are these newer chipsets better at running D9 at higher clocks with less voltage, or do they just overvolt by a LOT?
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    Asus boards do tend to overvolt ram, anywhere from 0.02v to 0.1v. Unless you measure it with a DMM, you have to go by software. What does asus probe say your vdimm is? If I were you I'd lower the voltage to between 1.9 and 2v in bios and keep testing. If it fails, bump it up a notch etc. Just be aware that 2v+ has killed many a D9 stick though, despite their 'rated' voltage.

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    I"m back running on stock speeds due to the heat. I have VDIMM set to 2.16 in the BIOS but Everest reads 2.26V

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An View Post
    I"m back running on stock speeds due to the heat. I have VDIMM set to 2.16 in the BIOS but Everest reads 2.26V
    everest is usually right might be off by 0.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsamz_ View Post
    everest is usually right might be off by 0.02
    So then, the voltages you list for your memory are what software reads, or the BIOS setting, or a DMM measurement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An View Post
    So then, the voltages you list for your memory are what software reads, or the BIOS setting, or a DMM measurement?
    i dont own an asus 775 board
    my cousins maximus overvoltsram
    i always measure with dmm on all my boards and everest is verry good but still off by +-0.02 on average
    i even chek temps with a lasergun

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    Well yeah, I was referring to the DFIs in your sig. Being able to run Ballistix at DDR2-1240 with only 2.02 VDIMM real is pretty impressive. I'm a bit leery of DMM after I killed my P5K-E/Wifi and a Dominator 6400C3 kit trying to measure VDIMM, although that was due to inexperience. I found a fairly comprehensive guide to using a DMM with a motherboard only days later
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    Has anyone tried the new 2.0v revision tracers yet-BLKIT12864AA106A?

    I have a pair of crappy single sided 8500 tracers,i have to run them at 800mhz or i get lots of random bsods in windows and loads of errors on memtest86.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An View Post
    Well yeah, I was referring to the DFIs in your sig. Being able to run Ballistix at DDR2-1240 with only 2.02 VDIMM real is pretty impressive. I'm a bit leery of DMM after I killed my P5K-E/Wifi and a Dominator 6400C3 kit trying to measure VDIMM, although that was due to inexperience. I found a fairly comprehensive guide to using a DMM with a motherboard only days later
    i got 3 sets that do 1225 with 2.0v need 2.02v for 1240 2.22v for 1300
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    Quote Originally Posted by TI66ER View Post
    Has anyone tried the new 2.0v revision tracers yet-BLKIT12864AA106A?

    I have a pair of crappy single sided 8500 tracers,i have to run them at 800mhz or i get lots of random bsods in windows and loads of errors on memtest86.

    rma them even if you get single sided back they gonna be better
    maybe u get lucky n get a doublesided set

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    i spoke to crucial uk,they said they have no duel sided sets left.They are expecting some them new revision tracers soon,so i wondered if anyone had got a pair of them 2v spec ones.

    I will rma these i guess,do you think i would be better off getting normal ballistix in exchange? i could swap mine for these-http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/part...KIT12864AA106A these are the new 2.0v spec,and i dont mind not having leds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TI66ER View Post
    Has anyone tried the new 2.0v revision tracers yet-BLKIT12864AA106A?

    I have a pair of crappy single sided 8500 tracers,i have to run them at 800mhz or i get lots of random bsods in windows and loads of errors on memtest86.
    if they're anything like new rev 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 80A ics they'll clock much better, one guy on OCAU forums got his new 80A 2x2GBb kit to 590mhz 5-5-5-15 stable

    I just received my kind will get around to testing once i have the ddr2 platform setup for it
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    Quote Originally Posted by eva2000 View Post
    if they're anything like new rev 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 80A ics they'll clock much better, one guy on OCAU forums got his new 80A 2x2GBb kit to 590mhz 5-5-5-15 stable
    These guys?
    Sourcing parts for a mildly over clocked abacus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsamz_ View Post
    i dont own an asus 775 board
    my cousins maximus overvoltsram
    i always measure with dmm on all my boards and everest is verry good but still off by +-0.02 on average
    i even chek temps with a lasergun
    I measured the Maximus with a DMM and it reports about a 0.08~0.09V overvolt New BIOS setting: 2.12V!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An View Post
    I measured the Maximus with a DMM and it reports about a 0.08~0.09V overvolt New BIOS setting: 2.12V!!
    ya thats about right looks like gigabyte overvolting bug

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    Which batch is better, FD3 or FD5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_skills View Post
    Which batch is better, FD3 or FD5?
    16fd5 n 16fd3 are kinda the same but 16fd5 is better my 16fd3 got older heatspreaders needed paperclips cause they were commin off @ the sides
    stay away from the 6400 stix i got a 16fd3 6400 set thats not even close to his big brother
    man these sticks are just great they been doin 1200+ 24/7 n no degradation what so ever i actually reduced voltage to 2.0 after 7 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsamz_ View Post
    16fd5 n 16fd3 are kinda the same but 16fd5 is better my 16fd3 got older heatspreaders needed paperclips cause they were commin off @ the sides
    Yeah, I got Tracer FD3 with old heatspreaders, same problem. I just removed clips, which solved the problem. But, man, these are pretty hot, about 50C at 1.8V 800Mhz in load. Active cooling is 100% necessery.
    Dude, how many memory kits do you have? 10?

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