GENTLY!
GENTLY!
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this thing feels stuck... like super glue stuck.Originally Posted by D_A
GENTLY!
any specific instructions?
- It took God 7 days to create earth because he was rendering with Radiosity, Raytraced Shadows and Caustics.
Ummm ... put the clips back in and leave it be? You might need to do things to soften the TIM/glue that I refuse to be held responsible for if they go badly. I can't afford to buy myself new gear, let alone anyone else.
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Run the board for a while. Turn the system off and remove the NB while the heatsink is still hot.
Ah perfect idea~!
I was gna use a hairdryer, but that would heat more than just the paste! (everything else around it)
Thanks Jaco.
Would the NB heat up enough, if I just booted the motherboard up with no RAM or CPU and left it for a good while?
edit: I got it, i ran the board for 10 min, it came sliding off O_O with a soft gently twist
Last edited by milkmandan; 07-25-2008 at 05:31 PM.
- It took God 7 days to create earth because he was rendering with Radiosity, Raytraced Shadows and Caustics.
What might work is to look in the bios at what bits are modified by changing the voltage using the program then change them in windows using a low level editor while the system is running instead of using a flashed bios.
Kind of like changing the voltage of a video card on the go
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Alright, so I removed the NB and cleaned the IHS. It looks beautiful, but uhm. the HR-05/IFX is kinda small for such a large IHS. This really better than the stock heatsink? lol The stock heatsink had a large base, and practically covered the whole IHS.
also, do i have to stick the cushion padding to the bottom of the HR-05/IFX, even if its going straight on the IHS. My guess is no, but just making sure.
Last edited by milkmandan; 07-25-2008 at 07:08 PM.
- It took God 7 days to create earth because he was rendering with Radiosity, Raytraced Shadows and Caustics.
looks perfect. Chip(s) under the IHS are what matter, not the IHS
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Ah nice, okay then. I just need to put some AS5 on the heatsink right? None on the IHS itself?looks perfect. Chip(s) under the IHS are what matter, not the IHS
How tight do i want this mounted?
I have the spring/plastic mounts, but i really don't want to use em when i got a nice metal screws.
Last edited by milkmandan; 07-25-2008 at 09:14 PM.
- It took God 7 days to create earth because he was rendering with Radiosity, Raytraced Shadows and Caustics.
Put a little dob (fat grain of rice size) in the centre or the IHS ( so it goes between the IHS and the HS ) and then mount the HS on top. Don't try to spread it with plastic/razor blade etc (that will introduce air bubbles), the pressure from the HS will sort that out for you, and you want it firm so it doesn't move around but obviously not too tight or you'll bend/break something. Breaking your mobo will make baby Jeebus cry.
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Perfect application will depend on mounting pressure. Either dot or spread will work fine as long as the correct method and adequate mounting pressure are used. TIM's are not much of a conductor anyways
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Compared to solid metal, true. Compared to air pockets, however, they rawk!
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Correct method?Perfect application will depend on mounting pressure. Either dot or spread will work fine as long as the correct method and adequate mounting pressure are used. TIM's are not much of a conductor anyways
What might that be?
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I apologize if this is in the wrong section of the forum. I tried looking and couldn't find a suitable place for this post.
Someone please comment on my lapping job for the NB heatsink. I think its pretty good, but again this is my first time lapping ANYTHING so yeah. I have no idea whether this is good or bad.
The reflection is only visible at an angle, as you can see.
If i try to look at it straight on, i dont see my face.
I wonder if that's an problem lol
- It took God 7 days to create earth because he was rendering with Radiosity, Raytraced Shadows and Caustics.
That should do just fine for surface finish. At least as important is that the surface is also flat in both axis. You can check that with a good quality straight edge (like a steel rule engineers use).
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As for "correct method" for TIM application ... the exact details vary a little in terms of how much you use. There's also probably as many methods as there are people doing it. My preferred method, and I think the results from various experiments in the ICD7 testing thread back me up, is to start with very clean surfaces then apply a dob of TIM to the centre of the IHS. FOR thinner TIMs like AS5 you seem to want a bit less (a fat grain of rice) than for a thicker TIM like ICD7 (half a pea) . In the grand scheme of things that's still not a lot of difference though. Next you carefully mount your HS straight down on top and while keeping it as square as possible do up the attachments evenly and gradually. Peeps seemed to get better results with ICD7 by NOT wiggling the HS and those that did wiggle them seemed to get air pockets in their TIM which caused poor(er) results.
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- Like already said small dot of AS5 the size of a grain of rice in the middle of the IHSAh nice, okay then. I just need to put some AS5 on the heatsink right? None on the IHS itself?
How tight do i want this mounted?
I have the spring/plastic mounts, but i really don't want to use em when i got a nice metal screws.
- as much pressure as the mounting gives, the mobo is way stronger than that little mounting mechanism - plus you can't kill anything due to the big fat NB IHS
- use the supplied metal screws
The correct method is to have the absolute minimum trapped between the heatsink and IHS as is needed. Any more than is necessary will create an excessive film barrier causing poorer than optimal temperatures..
All along the watchtower the watchmen watch the eternal return.
hey jcool.- Like already said small dot of AS5 the size of a grain of rice in the middle of the IHS
- as much pressure as the mounting gives, the mobo is way stronger than that little mounting mechanism - plus you can't kill anything due to the big fat NB IHS
- use the supplied metal screws
i came across a problem.
the mounting metal clips that I got with the HR-05/IFX dont reach all the way across for the NB screw slots.
i have 3 sets of clips (only 2 pictured below)
I tried using the one on the left in the picture above.
if i force the metal clip to fit the screw (its off like 1 cm), the screws end up pointing inward (putting pressure on the hole, is this bad for the mobo? there is a rubber washer underneath). for the clip on the right, the screws don't even reach the clip hole, too tall. There is a flat clip as well, but that's even shorter than the other 2
which one did your friend use?
Looking back on the whole thread, it seems a number of people have gotten this for their NB cooling, and all seem to be okay with it. Am I the only one with such problems?
Last edited by milkmandan; 07-26-2008 at 09:11 PM.
- It took God 7 days to create earth because he was rendering with Radiosity, Raytraced Shadows and Caustics.
So with some fiddling and some confidence, i finally mounted the NB heatsink.
I THINK this is how it is suppose to go :\ as nothing else fits. but again i have no idea... :|
the clip is slightly bending in the middle as you can see...not sure if that's going to be a problem couple years down the line.
the hr-05/ifx still swivels a bit as the thermal paste has not hardened, and probably won't for a while.
(it may look like a lot of thermal paste, but i was very confident i put a grain of rice size on it, it spreads well)
Last edited by milkmandan; 07-27-2008 at 10:42 PM.
- It took God 7 days to create earth because he was rendering with Radiosity, Raytraced Shadows and Caustics.
the side looks like it is lifted off the ihs?
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Looking good. If it doesn't make proper contact you'll see in bios (mobo temp).
Thats actually how the Hr-05/ifx is.
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it's just a funny angle of the picture..its actually very flat against the IHS.
the excess from the sliding around makes it look worse, but yeah as jcool said, i'll see on the mobo temps.
gotta hurry up and install the CPUs and some ram to see that
Last edited by milkmandan; 07-28-2008 at 08:55 AM.
- It took God 7 days to create earth because he was rendering with Radiosity, Raytraced Shadows and Caustics.
oh, stepped base.. my bad.
All along the watchtower the watchmen watch the eternal return.
oh ho ho. my motherboard tray does not have standoffs for the CEK clip.
Anyone know if I should just use the backplates alone to mount my ek supreme water blocks? I figured out how to use that black plastic alignment piece to line up the backplates perfectly.
or should try to mount the CPUs with the CEK clip without the mobo standoffs?
or am I suppose to use both together~ lol
suggestions?
Last edited by milkmandan; 08-01-2008 at 05:00 PM.
- It took God 7 days to create earth because he was rendering with Radiosity, Raytraced Shadows and Caustics.
Has anyone tried using Qx9775 chips with the Z7S board? Will Z7S let you adjust the multiplier (like with Skulltrail)? What other motherboards can do this?
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