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    Well guys, ive finally been able to sort things out and get my review schedule back on track, the red scorpion review was just posted, it maintained the exact 14 degree temperature drop that the original HDT-S1283 did

    http://www.overclockerspulse.com/har...-s1283-review/


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    nice review
    if i didnt have a true already i would pick up this cooler.
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    I just put the Red Scorpion in my PC which has an overclocked QX9650 in it...with the Zalman 9700NT my temps according to Real Temp 2.41 were about 45c-46c ilde at 3.6ghz with 1.264 vcore.

    Now with the Xigmatek, my ilde temps are 41-42c with same 1.264 vcore. I am also giving temps based off of the first boot so the Arctic Silver 5 hasn't cured yet...I think it will eventually settle around 40c idle....it's most certainly a better cooler than the much much more expensive Zalman 9700NT.

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    I have a true, but my temps are too high so im thinking about getting a s1283 to try my luck.

    For some reason i can move the true with my hand while installed and i think thats why i have 47~48 idle temps on a Q9450. I want to prove my luck and check if push pins are better x_x'. I tried the ocz vendetta 2 but the pins were of bad quality i just ended up returning it, it pissed me off every time i had to install/uninstall it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbsx View Post
    I have a true, but my temps are too high so im thinking about getting a s1283 to try my luck.

    For some reason i can move the true with my hand while installed and i think thats why i have 47~48 idle temps on a Q9450. I want to prove my luck and check if push pins are better x_x'. I tried the ocz vendetta 2 but the pins were of bad quality i just ended up returning it, it pissed me off every time i had to install/uninstall it.
    You just need some mod to apply more pressure on your TRUE, or even lap the base.
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    i lapped my true and aplied more pressure with a spacer it knocked of 5°
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bail_w View Post
    You just need some mod to apply more pressure on your TRUE, or even lap the base.
    But... i shouldnt be getting such temperatures, 46~48 idle? ._. i even applied the artic silver 5 correctly so i dont know whats wrong here. I think ill just blame the thermal sensors inside the processor. This is my second q9450, i had to exchange the first one because it came with 2 non working sensors and i was getting 36 idle with a thermalright xp-90, now with this new q9450 im getting 46 with a true. Im like wtf?

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    See, i can't get this...it's 159cm tall, and my case supports max 150cm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbsx View Post
    But... i shouldnt be getting such temperatures, 46~48 idle? ._. i even applied the artic silver 5 correctly so i dont know whats wrong here. I think ill just blame the thermal sensors inside the processor. This is my second q9450, i had to exchange the first one because it came with 2 non working sensors and i was getting 36 idle with a thermalright xp-90, now with this new q9450 im getting 46 with a true. Im like wtf?
    i am pretty sure is the contact issues which imply to pressure.
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    Don't ever drop an HDT cooler on the floor by accident.
    I did, and I had to order a new one.

    The heatpipes popped fromt the base and the whole thing twisted, so now it has an uneven base.
    70 at load with q6600 at 3.6 FTW...or not.

    It's a zigzagtech now. hehe

    My new one comes monday so I am going to experiment with getting the base lapped on this one to see if it fixes anything.
    Last edited by Worthy; 04-26-2008 at 04:12 AM.

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    Here's Xigmatek HDT-S1284 Achilles review:

    http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/676326/+0
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    I received the replacement red scorpion for the one I dropped.

    I used an Aero Cool Extreme Turbine fan. You know the so called 89 cfm one.
    I also used the included TIM this time without lapping the heatsink.

    All I can say is WOW! At 3.6 ghz running occt, my q6600 never goes above 60c.

    Now I know bad things have been said about the fan I used, but it blows away the red scorpion fan by a mile. There is now good airflow blowing through the heatsink. There is definitely way more cfm and air pressure produced by the turbine as opposed to the stock fan for all it's worth.
    I have no way of measuring, but I could care less. It's perfect now.

    So if you want to make the 1283 even better, swap the fan out with the extreme turbine. It's a way better fan.

    The included thermal grease seems to be better with this heatsink than arctic silver too. I don't get it, but it's all good.

    Time to see how much higher over 3.8 I can get now that it's not croaking under the heat. It was hitting 70c before. 10c improvement in my book is great.

    Just thought I'd share.

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    My room mate got this as I have a TRUE in my system and he hates to copy anything I do. However when he was installing it with at TR bolt thru kit, he made the mistake of not screwing all 4 screws one turn and moving to the next, when we removed the heatsink to check that there was even coverage of the cpu we found a large dent in the shape of a C2D heat spreader corner in one of the heat pipes.

    So be warned, when useing a bolt thru to to apply a lot of pressure make sure you screw it down very evenly corner by cross corner or you may ruine the HS due to the softness of the copper heat pipe.

    When I find my camera I will post a picture of it dent.
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    Yep! lol, this also happens with pushpins if one pops out from not seating them all the way. Of course now this is a non-issue for me.

    The backplate is the way to go, and yes, tighten the screws evenly, or cry.
    That's the downfall of HDT. You can damage the heatpipes if you're not careful.

    To me though, it's the best heatsink I have ever owned. Especially with the better fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadESin View Post
    My room mate got this as I have a TRUE in my system and he hates to copy anything I do. However when he was installing it with at TR bolt thru kit, he made the mistake of not screwing all 4 screws one turn and moving to the next, when we removed the heatsink to check that there was even coverage of the cpu we found a large dent in the shape of a C2D heat spreader corner in one of the heat pipes.

    So be warned, when useing a bolt thru to to apply a lot of pressure make sure you screw it down very evenly corner by cross corner or you may ruine the HS due to the softness of the copper heat pipe.

    When I find my camera I will post a picture of it dent.

    man...and I thought this is common sense....

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    Mine did that with push pins also.
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    >>>Well guys, ive finally been able to sort things out and get my review schedule back on track, the red scorpion review was just posted, it maintained the exact 14 degree temperature drop that the original HDT-S1283 did <<

    Spawn, thanks for a great review. Do you think it would be a good idea to fill the space between the heat pipes and the aluminum support columns with thermal grease in addition to applying the line method you recommend ? Just to prevent any air from being trapped there.
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    Found this on applying TIM to one of these;
    http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=4

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    Interesting article. Notice he did not one attempt line across the heat pipes (perpendicular to the direction of heat pipes). Two drops or two lines always concern me about air being trapped between them as the TIM spreads under the heatsink ?
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    to answer your question, yes that will always help improve heat transfer, whether it helps temps, i dont know, its a common first mod to do on alot of coolers that have gaps or air spaces along the base or above the base where the heatpipes make contact

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    s1283 or 84?which one is better in performance?

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    84 scales higher because of more pipes, fins, and larger surface area. Dont buy it until revision 2 is released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawne32 View Post
    84 scales higher because of more pipes, fins, and larger surface area. Dont buy it until revision 2 is released.
    What about OCZ CPU Cooler Vendetta 2 or ultima 90i?
    Last edited by dr.noob; 07-24-2008 at 10:35 PM.

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    Vendetta2 is great, just check the threads in this forum for results.

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    my base is coming loose on my 1283. i can now move the base some away from the pipes up or back down i was wondering why i had such bad temps.. then i took it off and put a razor on it and saw only the silver parts between the pipes were actually touching the cpu.. looking for something else now.. not sure ill buy another one of these or not
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