Real Temp - New temp program for Intel Core processors

[rge]

i dont trust realtemp to be honest, considering its reporting completly different tests to everything else

So apparently you trust Everest....

Pic below is a quote from Fiery, developer of Everest, on lavalys forum describing how he feels about the accuracy of measuring core temperature with his program and others.

So you trust a program's guess at accuracy of core temp more than the author? Fiery was simply being honest, as intel does not document tjmax for desktops, thus Everest and coretemp guess at tjmax by using 45nm mobile cpus tjmax's of 105, hoping it is close, even though intel has said "no" to doing so.

Realtemp is the only program that has performed measurements, using intel docs to do so as accurately as possible, to make an accurate estimate of tjmax, and thus core temperature.

We all welcome intelligent arguments either for or against any program or temperature, as that leads to fruitful discussion, but blindly following others, who admit to being blind themselves, makes no sense.

[Puttz]

Uncle, Keep up the great work with RealTemp. Sorry to hear the same old arguments tho. Maybe the thread needs to start at page 1 again.......NOT!
I'm playing around with my new setup & love the temps I'm getting at 5.5 (11x500), but before I play with the FSB anymore, I was wondering if you could you please advise what the best TjMax is for a QX9770 (Batch #L803B328)?
I have everything adjusted to the preset of 95 & am just curious if that is correct.
Thanks.
P.S. - The start minimized bug is fixed.

[unclewebb]

I was wondering if you could please advise what the best TjMax is for a QX9770 (Batch #L803B328)?

The default one that RealTemp uses is best. For your Quad that is TjMax=95C. If you use the adjustable TjMax feature then it will save your new TjMax in the INI file. If you go into the RealTemp.INI file and delete all entries that start with TjMax then it will rescan your CPU next time you start up RealTemp and use the default.

Edit: I should use RealTemp more often. Looks like the Defaults button in the Settings window also restores TjMax to the default settings.

I don't believe that TjMax is the great mystery that Intel makes it out to be. I do believe that the sensors they use aren't great for reporting idle temperatures and not releasing any official value for TjMax is a good way to cover that fact up. To document what TjMax really is would open up a big can of worms. Sometimes saying nothing is best. Class action lawsuits can be expensive when you sell as many processors as Intel does!

P.S. - The start minimized bug is fixed.

Two so far for that. RejZoR helped me figure out that it is likely a timing problem so I adjusted that a little and added a second try at Minimizing if the first one didn't take. If it works I better leave it alone now. Pretty sad when you have to slow software down to make it more compatible with Vista.

No problem CBird28. Check out RealTemp and read the docs and learn what the issues with these sensors are. Once you go through the calibration process of your own processor you might start to see why I think RealTemp is giving you the straightest, least BS temperature results.

[-X-hellfire]

...installed the latest RT 2.69.5


the core order have changed again, but this time it's the first time I seen APIC ID = 0132


probably just a random thing but as usual these new thing one find different than before occurs when one have just installed a new version but hey that computers


btw I had some freak instabillities and crashes first when used the Speedstep (C1E) but also later when it was disabled, crashes mostly in firefox etc, it tuns out that some cables to ADSL modem and Router, which I havent touch for let say 10 years, was glitchy, but I fixed it yesterday and now the "3 times rebooting" before internet works is gone and firefox is finally stable again


btw since a couple of months maybe ½ year I put in a powerswitch for the ADSL modem, Router and a lamp, just to be able to shut them down while the mouse in my sig is charging ovenight when the computer is "powered off", anyway I noticed a couple of days ago that lamp suddemly fickered and the Router restarted when the computer was on...
...and removed that powerswitch as I though that was the culprit sometimes for the other problems, it´s possible that it has done some micro power outs for them before, only restarting the router, anyways "Murphys Law" always applies with computers :whistle:

I have had the minimized problem in the previous version of RT, but that might be because the computer didn't shut sown correctly due to the internet problems, took long time before computer shutdown and windows forcefully terminates that application





One more thing is that the previous versions lately has been very slow when the computer starts, RT has started but shows empty temperature icons for laet say 20-30 seconds until allmost everything else has finished as the computer starts, is this normal?


I will post this and restart the computer and report back when it starts


Always great work you put into this application


edit:
...restarted and RT now minimized correctly

still waits with empty icons until the icons get temp info and start showing the accurate numbers, but I guess this is normal

APIC ID = 0231 ...now and thats what I seen before, probably some weird glicth before


forgot the picture before, anyway here it is...

[Puttz]

The default one that RealTemp uses is best. For your Quad that is TjMax=95C.

Thanks Unc!