"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[rusty]

BIOS 1003 is officially posted for P5Q Deluxe, what are the changes in this one?

I wonder if its any better than 1102

[truehighroller]

BIOS 1003 is officially posted for P5Q Deluxe, what are the changes in this one?

I see that nice find man. It doesn't say does it. I wonder if since I'm on 1102 am I on newer one or? The because of the new option in this one will it cause issues going to the 1003 one?

[rusty]

Try OCCT and see if it is stable or use small ffts. I am perfectly stable but can not run large ffts.

ok will do that.
What volts do use now for vcore and vtt ?

[truehighroller]

Don't use the 1003 IMO bcause I just tried and I lost my raid controller screen and it was saying hard drive in the boot order screen instead of the raid I have and I couldn't boot. I went back to 1102 now and I am fine again on my 3.8GHz. Here are my voltage settings.

CPU Voltage: 1.26250
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): .635
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): .635
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.32
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: auto
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.60

[rusty]

Don't use the 1003 IMO bcause I just tried and I lost my raid controller screen and it was saying hard drive in the boot order screen instead of the raid I have and I couldn't boot. I went back to 1102 now and I am fine again on my 3.8GHz. Here are my voltage settings.

CPU Voltage: 1.26250
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): .635
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): .635
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.32
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: auto
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.60

man I can't get stable 3.8 no matter what I do.
my vtt 1.32v-1.34v my vcore 1.33v-1.38v and still occt fails. Could it be NB ? or something else I miss?

[rusty]

seems like I have memory or nb problem cause occt comes up with code 4 in thread 0

[truehighroller]

Hmm yah, then you are deffinately having an issue. I am sorry that you are having bad luck.

[Ruslan]

AHCI mode is broken in 1003

[rusty]

Hmm yah, then you are deffinately having an issue. I am sorry that you are having bad luck.

by the way do you use acpi 2.0 mode and AHCI mode ? I run sata ide+no acpi 2
what about NB remmaping or something like that, do I need it or not ?

[Lewis23]

I still have 0702 bios on my p5q-deluxe... So with which bios version should i upgrade it? Many thanks

[-Zork-]

Sorry 1101 Beta Bios there

ASUS P5Q-E 1101 Beta Bios
[1101]
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Is it still beta or will oficial release soon

[RBS]

Hey guys, I can´t take my Mushkin Redline over 1000Mhz, any try failing Super Pi after few seconds. I´ve been playing with skews (delay 150), vdimm (tried till 2.2V), vNB, higher PL...I don´t know what more to do. I´d like to put them at least at 1066. Any tip? Thanks

[AgentGOD]

Is it just me, or is "DRAM Command Rate" non-existent in the BIOS? (I'm on 0803 right now)

Also, where do you guys find beta BIOSes for this board?

P.S.: I did notice ASUS posted up a new BIOS on their site, 1003, but I saw many many people getting problems with it, so I did not flash it. I'm still on 0803.

[sxs112]

Is it still beta or will oficial release soon

Beta Bios

[petekol]

man I can't get stable 3.8 no matter what I do.
my vtt 1.32v-1.34v my vcore 1.33v-1.38v and still occt fails. Could it be NB ? or something else I miss?

not sure that i have the same problem as you but i could not get it stabile on 475FSB. Only Vcore makes my setup more stabile....

[RBS]

Yea, same here, just with high Vcore I can get stability at 500 FSB, I´m talking about 1.4V +

[rusty]

ok guys I just found out that when OV_CPU & OV_NB disabled system won't boot even with voltages below 1.7v like 1.33v for instance. Once changed to enabled able to oc again to 3.8ghz.
Well I guess I'm going to put more vcore then. Can anyone verify that load line calibration puts more voltage than needed? For example, I set vcore to 1.33v with load line calibration I get 1.35v

[Leeghoofd]

new option in the new bios 1003..... cpu margin enhancement......what this is doing?

Pmp's quote : This option affects FSB signal, and it's here due to Intel recommendation. Basically it affects OC margin for upcoming, cheap Q8200. It _may_ enhance a little typical Yorkfields/Wolfdales as well.
Optimized setting enable/disable Compatible or Performance modes depends on CPU uCode.

I still have 0702 bios on my p5q-deluxe... So with which bios version should i upgrade it? Many thanks

If you don't have any probs with it Lewis, keep it....

Can anyone verify that load line calibration puts more voltage than needed? For example, I set vcore to 1.33v with load line calibration I get 1.35v

It overvolts a bit over the bios setting...

not sure that i have the same problem as you but i could not get it stabile on 475FSB. Only Vcore makes my setup more stabile....

Yea, same here, just with high Vcore I can get stability at 500 FSB, I´m talking about 1.4V +

Think you guys are more CPU limited then mobo/setting limited here... if you need as much Vcore to get anywhere... it's the CPU surpassing it's sweetspot... I have the same with one Xeon 3310, fine at 3.8ghz at 1.16Vcore (under load) but once over 4ghz I need almost 1.3volts to get it anywhere stable... CPU is capping out on me due to high temps... same mobo does 500FSB daily with an E8400@4ghz... only hardware change is the CPU... Will keep the Xeon at 3.6Ghz at 1.1 volts....

[rusty]

Pmp's quote : This option affects FSB signal, and it's here due to Intel recommendation. Basically it affects OC margin for upcoming, cheap Q8200. It _may_ enhance a little typical Yorkfields/Wolfdales as well.
Optimized setting enable/disable Compatible or Performance modes depends on CPU uCode.




If you don't have any probs with it Lewis, keep it....



It overvolts a bit over the bios setting...





Think you guys are more CPU limited then mobo/setting limited here... if you need as much Vcore to get anywhere... it's the CPU surpassing it's sweetspot... I have the same with one Xeon 3310, fine at 3.8ghz at 1.16Vcore (under load) but once over 4ghz I need almost 1.3volts to get it anywhere stable... CPU is capping out on me due to high temps... same mobo does 500FSB daily with an E8400@4ghz... only hardware change is the CPU... Will keep the Xeon at 3.6Ghz at 1.1 volts....

mate I'm running vcore 1.4v and vtt 1.32v dram 2.1v at 3.8
prime's thread 3 fails others stay fine what should I up GTL ref or more vcore?

[miguelca]

Hi Leeghoofd,

Unfortunately there is no way I can lower PLL and FSB term. voltage if I want to run stable at FSB444.
The only setting that I could lower was the DRAM voltage, and I need 2.02v.
Anything below that value will cause Prime Blend to fail.
I've tried changing memory timings like you suggested but it seems that I've hit a wall at FSB444 / RAM 1066MHz.

Now I'm running with the following settings, and still trying to lower FSB term. voltage.
Since I'm at 4GHz CPU clock, I don't know if I should try lowering CPU PLL with FSB400...

AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 10
FSB Frequency: 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 103 (101 will cause my display driver to stop sometimes)
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Normal
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
AI Clock Twister: Strong
AI Transaction Booster: MANUAL
COMMON PERFORMANCE LEVEL: 07
PULL-INS: Both 1&3 Enabled

CPU Voltage: 1.41250
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.28
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal
CPU Margin Enhancement: Performance

What do you think about this setup?
Thank again for your precious help.

Try the above settings plz... sure you need as much Vcore ? Try to lower PLL and FSB term voltage (if possible) Why don't you run 400FSB with 10 multi ? and ram at 1066 ( in case my settings wouldn't help ya to OC the ram... Gskills and Mushkins do 1081 daily with 450FSB) Also the board overvolts the ram so be carefull there you are going for 2.15Volts?

[Leeghoofd]

Rusty back down to 450FSB, hardly think it's mobo related... what are ya coretemps ? have you tried playing with one setting at a time ? most Q9450 users seem to need 1.6PLL and pretty high FSB Term voltage for 3.8Ghz ops... you can try to get with 6 multi as high FSB as you can... but I really think you got a mediocre performing CPU...

[RBS]

About my Mushkin problem, here is my config template:

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: auto
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1003
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: disabled
MEM. OC Charger: enabled
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: manual
Common Performance Level [7]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.2875
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.22
DRAM Voltage: 1.98
NB Voltage: 1.24
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : auto
NB Clock Skew : auto

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Thanks .

[Leeghoofd]

Hi Leeghoofd,

Now I'm running with the following settings, and still trying to lower FSB term. voltage.
Since I'm at 4GHz CPU clock, I don't know if I should try lowering CPU PLL with FSB400...

AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 10
FSB Frequency: 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 103 (101 will cause my display driver to stop sometimes)
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO --> 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
AI Clock Twister: Strong
AI Transaction Booster: MANUAL
COMMON PERFORMANCE LEVEL: 07
PULL-INS: 1&3 Enabled

CPU Voltage: 1.41250
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.28
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

What do you think about this setup?
Thank again for your precious help.

Looking good man, I never run static read control on, had too many issue with it... can you run an everest Ram bandwith test on this setup... wanna see the difference with my more moderate tweaks... this is my 24/7 setup :

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: Moderate
AI Transaction Booster: MANUAL
COMMON PERFORMANCE LEVEL: 08

[rusty]

Rusty back down to 450FSB, hardly think it's mobo related... what are ya coretemps ? have you tried playing with one setting at a time ? most Q9450 users seem to need 1.6PLL and pretty high FSB Term voltage for 3.8Ghz ops... you can try to get with 6 multi as high FSB as you can... but I really think you got a mediocre performing CPU...

here :>

[Leeghoofd]

I prefer load temps rusty, do the cores go over 60-65°C ?