Nehalem-EP......BLOOMFIELD

[villa1n]

I found this on some random forum...dont know whether you have seen it yet and i cant figure out how to translate it but nehalem will have $284 $562 and $999 price points

http://www.hkepc.com/?id=1447&fs=c1h

2.93GHZ here I come

I havent been excited for a processor for a long time.. but it reminds me of being little and waiting for christmas haha. ironically, the release will be around that time :P
2.93 + OC goodness, here i come

[DeanZ]

I havent been excited for a processor for a long time.. but it reminds me of being little and waiting for christmas haha. ironically, the release will be around that time :P
2.93 + OC goodness, here i come

time to become the smart enthusiast and save now...I turned my GT200 fund into my nehalem fund...I'm also expecting to be gouged out of every penny I have but whatever

[MomijiTMO]

Guys don't forget that the current DDR3 kits aren't what you should be using with Nehalem as it is tri-channel so expect to see 3Gb and 6Gb kits soon. I wonder what the price difference will be like and whether there is a significant advantage in everyday applications and games. Don't be too surprised when the prices are a great deal higher than the numbers we are seeing now. New tech is always at a price premium so depending whether you are a budget conscious [aka cheap] buyer like me then you must play your cards at the right time. Remember when the B3 Q6600 was $999? Luckily for us most of the people here will be embracing this new architecture rather early so we can see what are the ups and downs. I also wonder what the next chipset could offer and maybe X68 could offer a jump like the P35 did.

Remember that at XS you have gamers, ocers and dc members. The dc guys are drooling over Bloomfield and the sever versions.

[JumpingJack]

yeah. I know. There is no registered DDR3 on the market yet.

Although the wiki says that NehalemDP will use normal DDR3, but i've heard that it uses Registered.

It is almost guaranteed to use registered DDR3, NehalemDP is for servers... this is needed for the extra reliability and stability. The only DP product that wouldn't would be the dual socket enthusiast monstrosity.

[Hornet331]

Guys don't forget that the current DDR3 kits aren't what you should be using with Nehalem as it is tri-channel so expect to see 3Gb and 6Gb kits soon.

theres no problem with current sets, it doesnt matter if you use 3x2gb(4gb) kits or 2x3gb(6gb).

the only thing that maybe is an advantage of 3/6gb kits is the price.

[Blauhung]

Guys don't forget that the current DDR3 kits aren't what you should be using with Nehalem as it is tri-channel so expect to see 3Gb and 6Gb kits soon. I wonder what the price difference will be like and whether there is a significant advantage in everyday applications and games. Don't be too surprised when the prices are a great deal higher than the numbers we are seeing now. New tech is always at a price premium so depending whether you are a budget conscious [aka cheap] buyer like me then you must play your cards at the right time. Remember when the B3 Q6600 was $999? Luckily for us most of the people here will be embracing this new architecture rather early so we can see what are the ups and downs. I also wonder what the next chipset could offer and maybe X68 could offer a jump like the P35 did.

Remember that at XS you have gamers, ocers and dc members. The dc guys are drooling over Bloomfield and the sever versions.

Don't cont on much between Tylersburg and it's successor, overclocking is all done through multies and reference clock and really the only data thats being sent over the QPI on bloomfield is graphics and I/O. In both cases, the bandwidth and latency of the interconnect are way faster then anything we could need in the next few years. The only place where any improvement is really noticed is inter-socket commmunication on the DP platform.

Since the interconnect now can use adjustable multipliers rather then being stuck at "quad-pumped" there is little reason to spend time designing in scaleability on the reference clock, only the max link speed. My belief is that the main purpose of the X68 (or whatever we call it) will be PCIe 3.0 support. It might support some increases to the interconnect speed and who knows, mayby add a bit more bandwidth to the DMI link to the SB, but it probably won't help out with OC'ing locked processors.

It is almost guaranteed to use registered DDR3, NehalemDP is for servers... this is needed for the extra reliability and stability. The only DP product that wouldn't would be the dual socket enthusiast monstrosity.

Since it is the same die in the package, i believe support for reg/unreg is all through BIOS. The big server board guys (Tyan/Supermicro/ect.) dont have all that much reason to code in support for unreg, but without knowing much about the stuff that goes into coding for ECC, i would think that writing BIOS for ECC is way harder the unreg. So who knows, maybe they will all leave the option in for customers who don't need the memory relyability and don't want the added cost. The same people that bought the San Clemintine platform that does DP Harpertowns with regular DDR2.

[Nedjo]

time to become the smart enthusiast and save now...I turned my GT200 fund into my nehalem fund...I'm also expecting to be gouged out of every penny I have but whatever

better save hard! 'cos mobo will cost you like the CPU it self

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=8434&Itemid=1

[Shintai]

better save hard! 'cos mobo will cost you like the CPU it self

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=8434&Itemid=1

Ye because we all know FUD always post the truth!

And looking on servers I dont see the problem. Specially not when comparing to current X38 boards. Sure it wont be a 80$ board...

[threeply]

Has anyone confirmed that Bloomfields can be used in 2P Tylersberg mobos? Is Intel going to release Gainstown before Bloomsfield (or at least the same time)? Looking forward to the next SkullTrail or xTrail now that nVidia has licensed SLI for Nehalem.

Next quarter is going to be interesting.

[mAJORD]

That'd mean they're right on schedule.
Penryn @45nm = Tock 2007
Nehalem @45nm = Tick2008
Nehalem @32nm =Tock 2009
New Architecture 32nm WM = Tock 2010 tick
Above @22nm = Tick 2011 tock

I didn't think so. SO I checked.

http://www.intel.com/technology/tick-tock/index.htm

You're right, must edit that.

Isn't Tick supposed to be new arch and tock the refresh?

Conroe = Tick?
Penryn = Tock?

Before you (both) confuse yoursleves more,

Donnie You were right the first time actually

Conroe = Tock
Penryn=Tick
Nehalem=Tock

[NoobCake]

Would these new motherboards be standard ATX or will they be like EATX?

[Xoulz]

theres no problem with current sets, it doesnt matter if you use 3x2gb(4gb) kits or 2x3gb(6gb).

the only thing that maybe is an advantage of 3/6gb kits is the price.

Your missing the point of TRI-channel memory bus...!

*dee dee dee*




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[Shintai]

Your missing the point of TRI-channel memory bus...!

*dee dee dee*




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Well, buying 3x1GB or 3x2GB etc doesnt really matter. Instead of 2 or 4GB, you just have 3 or 6GB. I dont see any issue.

[Neuuubeh]

Your missing the point of TRI-channel memory bus...!

*dee dee dee*




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So why cant I just grab 3 sticks and be done with it..
OR 3 dual kits for the richer

[JCornell]

From the incident before, I'm not posted any benches results anymore ... This SS just exclusively shows only on XS
Just a little preview of Gainestown hope enough
Just reminder, the CINEBENCH R10 bench is impressive

This SS below with VISTA 64bit + 20Gb DDR3 ECC + Gainestown 3.06GHz*2
CpuZ codename has wrong detection to Bloomfield ...


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[Fuji]

wow. CPU-Z is of by a bit.

That's going to be a beast lol.

it's scary to think that like 6 years so, such power was only offered in a $8k+ box.

That's going to have some insane memory bandwidth. I really want one.

[Shintai]

Now I wet my pants...

DAVE! New pants please!

[MomijiTMO]

NICE. Too bad we won't get any benches. . .yet

[Donnie27]

Before you (both) confuse yoursleves more,

Donnie You were right the first time actually

Conroe = Tock
Penryn=Tick
Nehalem=Tock

OK!

[JCornell]

Has anyone confirmed that Bloomfields can be used in 2P Tylersberg mobos? Is Intel going to release Gainstown before Bloomsfield (or at least the same time)? Looking forward to the next SkullTrail or xTrail now that nVidia has licensed SLI for Nehalem.

Next quarter is going to be interesting.

FYI
From I'd tested, Bloomfield can't boot up on 2P Tylersburg, But Gainestown can boot up on 1P Tylersburg

[Donnie27]

theres no problem with current sets, it doesnt matter if you use 3x2gb(4gb) kits or 2x3gb(6gb).

the only thing that maybe is an advantage of 3/6gb kits is the price.

But once volume increases, just like DDR2 price will fall. The majority of RAM shipping is still DDR2 by Next year that will not be the case, right?

[Movieman]

Now I wet my pants...

DAVE! New pants please!

I'm sorry, I had 32 pairs all set aside but they are now in the wash..
damn, there goes #33.. Time to break out the Depends..

[Blauhung]

I'm sorry, I had 32 pairs all set aside but they are now in the wash..
damn, there goes #33.. Time to break out the Depends..

It helps if you just bring a laptop to the bathroom with you if you're reading this in the morning. When you go an mess yourself, you are sitting and it's all contained, or at the very least the shower isn't far away

EDIT:
oh crap, I just noticed the 2 instances of BOINC that appear to be on JC's systray... and I just took a shower

[Donnie27]

It helps if you just bring a laptop to the bathroom with you if you're reading this in the morning. When you go an mess yourself, you are sitting and it's all contained, or at the very least the shower isn't far away

EDIT:
oh crap, I just noticed the 2 instances of BOINC that appear to be on JC's systray... and I just took a shower

Oh well, quit smoking 5 years ago or I'd have a cigarette after that one LOL!

[Movieman]

It helps if you just bring a laptop to the bathroom with you if you're reading this in the morning. When you go an mess yourself, you are sitting and it's all contained, or at the very least the shower isn't far away

EDIT:
oh crap, I just noticed the 2 instances of BOINC that appear to be on JC's systray... and I just took a shower

Just a dampness problem so the Depends are taking care of the issue.
As to the two boinc, I think a error as BOINC will not run twice on one system but you can show 2 in the tray if you hit the exe twice.
Just a error I think with someone not that familar with the app.
Dave