It is offical: NVIDIA allows SLI on Intel X58!

[Anemone]

Remember the competition from AMD/ATI isn't over yet. It's just beginning. Let me illustrate a few advantages in that camp.

CF (even quad and beyond) works just fine over the PCI-E bridge. No extra chips to cause trouble.
CF works with dual screens. No need to buy a Quadro to get both SLI and dual screen support.
CF quad (dual 4870x2) is likely to be the fastest graphics out there.
CF support DX 10.1 and probably will support 11 next year as well.
Intel isn't going to cripple CF. Never has, never will. So you know as long as ATI supports it, it will work. And that means less finger pointing when things don't work.
SLI may or may not work with the bridge chip at Nvidia's option. (ref the current 280 SLI NOT working on Skulltrail)
ATI is ready to go ray tracing and support Havok. So it seems they are on good terms with Intel now and into the future.
ATI doesn't charge you 30/50 or any $$ extra for making CF available.
ATI was the first to produce a board supporting displayport - meaning they are ready for now and later.


Now I just need to know the ATI equivalent of EVGA

[Donnie27]

ATi slaughters GTX280 SLi with R700 (4870x2) so nVidia lat Intel do SLi, sound business sense from nVidia and Intel's busy playing divide & conquer.

Sure, but just think about what they'd do if they had the better product? The gaming market if more for show than money made by the processor guys. It is very important to the Discrete Video card market. Since AMD is both, it get Free marketing, something they can always use. It puts them in good standing with all market in the Short and long term. Plus simply put, it makes them money. NO ONE trusts nVidia.

[Donnie27]

Remember the competition from AMD/ATI isn't over yet. It's just beginning. Let me illustrate a few advantages in that camp.

CF (even quad and beyond) works just fine over the PCI-E bridge. No extra chips to cause trouble.
CF works with dual screens. No need to buy a Quadro to get both SLI and dual screen support.
CF quad (dual 4870x2) is likely to be the fastest graphics out there.
CF support DX 10.1 and probably will support 11 next year as well.
Intel isn't going to cripple CF. Never has, never will. So you know as long as ATI supports it, it will work. And that means less finger pointing when things don't work.
SLI may or may not work with the bridge chip at Nvidia's option. (ref the current 280 SLI NOT working on Skulltrail)
ATI is ready to go ray tracing and support Havok. So it seems they are on good terms with Intel now and into the future.
ATI doesn't charge you 30/50 or any $$ extra for making CF available.
ATI was the first to produce a board supporting displayport - meaning they are ready for now and later.

Now I just need to know the ATI equivalent of EVGA

QFT and well said. Visiontek and MSI but I don't overclock video cards very much any more.

[Tonucci]

I always thought it would happen. They were just playing games, putting pressure, until the right offer was made. Money obviously speaks louder than rivalries.

[ap4lifetn]

so even if i buy a x58 board, it'll still have a nvidia chipset on it whether i want to SLI or not?

[Omastar]

Tri SLI is about as stable as a 3 legged ballerina, I would say it is a good job Intel do not want that on their boards....

More in the interests of benchers than gamers.

[Nasgul]

so even if i buy a x58 board, it'll still have a nvidia chipset on it whether i want to SLI or not?

Well, let's hope that ASUS reads or hears about our petition: NO NFARCE CHIPSET ON AN SLI INTEL BOARD (X58). Capiche?

Knowing ASUS, they might just come up with something which will not allow such horrible product to be combined with an Intel Core Logic.

[ap4lifetn]

heh, looking forward to a non nvidia chipset!!!! stupid 650i

[Serpentarius]

a big lash for ATi ........ but having opening the source for Intel is a wise move to compete with ATi
but to think again ....... wont it be bit toooo late for that?

considering they might scrap that sli plans ...

[Zaskar]

Tri SLI is about as stable as a 3 legged ballerina, I would say it is a good job Intel do not want that on their boards....

I dunno, Id venture to say a Tripod is more stable then a Bipod :P

[Blacky]

Remember the competition from AMD/ATI isn't over yet. It's just beginning. Let me illustrate a few advantages in that camp.

CF (even quad and beyond) works just fine over the PCI-E bridge. No extra chips to cause trouble.
CF works with dual screens. No need to buy a Quadro to get both SLI and dual screen support.
CF quad (dual 4870x2) is likely to be the fastest graphics out there.
CF support DX 10.1 and probably will support 11 next year as well.
Intel isn't going to cripple CF. Never has, never will. So you know as long as ATI supports it, it will work. And that means less finger pointing when things don't work.
SLI may or may not work with the bridge chip at Nvidia's option. (ref the current 280 SLI NOT working on Skulltrail)
ATI is ready to go ray tracing and support Havok. So it seems they are on good terms with Intel now and into the future.
ATI doesn't charge you 30/50 or any $$ extra for making CF available.
ATI was the first to produce a board supporting displayport - meaning they are ready for now and later.


Now I just need to know the ATI equivalent of EVGA

I agreed most of your points except one thing, XF sucks after having more than 2 GPUS which means two X2 on XF sucks in most of the cases as well ...

[strange|ife]

sounds good.

expensive, but good.

[Xoulz]

Looks like ATI nor nVidia will have to worry, HYDRA is here.




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[Nedjo]

If you take this in consideration:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=8434&Itemid=1

And the fact that none of x58 mainboards displayed last month on Computex didn't have this nForce200 chip, how many x58 mainboards do you expect to have with SLi support?

[Logos]

If you take this in consideration:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=8434&Itemid=1

And the fact that none of x58 mainboards displayed last month on Computex didn't have this nForce200 chip, how many x58 mainboards do you expect to have with SLi support?

we know it's too late for the first X58 boards, as their design is frozen by now. The next wave of mobos later in 2009 will have those NF chips.

[Xoulz]

If you take this in consideration:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=8434&Itemid=1

And the fact that none of x58 mainboards displayed last month on Computex didn't have this nForce200 chip, how many x58 mainboards do you expect to have with SLi support?

Thats why INTEL invested in a company called Lucid, who has 50 patents on it's HYDRA chipset that eliminates known problems with multiple GPUs. Some insightful information was released to the public yesterday and I cannot believe that thread isn't 20 pages long by now. Specially considering who the people are that is developing it.


HYDRA ftw.



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[bowman]

we know it's too late for the first X58 boards, as their design is frozen by now. The next wave of mobos later in 2009 will have those NF chips.

Thank goodness for this. I'm buying early, no green icky chips are coming near my board.

[Anemone]

Still the question begs why, if AMD/ATI can do it, why can't Nvidia do SLI without this chip? I think we "know" the answer, but it is amusing nonetheless.

[Logos]

Still the question begs why, if AMD/ATI can do it, why can't Nvidia do SLI without this chip? I think we "know" the answer, but it is amusing nonetheless.

they'd just have to unlock the drivers...but they don't want to...hence the chip..I know you know it, from reading your previous posts...why asking again ?

(oh this chip, or a previous version, was also used...IS still being used on 780, 790 sli boards to prevent CrossFire from running...nice people we got there and I pity them for having to remove that lock on the chips for X58 )

[Donnie27]

Even more shocking is during nVidia vs. Intel spat in the "Whoopass" thread, many AMD fans took nVidia's side. This even as they worked against AMD. It seems AMD and Intel's battle has cooled down a lot. I think they know they need eachother more than ever. IMHO, nVidia must be thinking the same thing now.

[Donnie27]

Still the question begs why, if AMD/ATI can do it, why can't Nvidia do SLI without this chip? I think we "know" the answer, but it is amusing nonetheless.

Because nVidia are a bunch of Greedy Bass-terds

[Logos]

I think NVidia should definitely stop taking themselves for an X86 company

[Donnie27]

I think NVidia should definitely stop taking themselves for an X86 company

Yepp

[hollo]

it's funny, cos if i were nVidia i'd pay intel to build SLI support into their chipsets

[Atal]

I would have guessed, how else are they gonna have sells after the 4870 X2