** OFFICIAL ** Intel DX38BT & DX48BT2 BoneTrail Thread

[HighTest]

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...ng&PrdMap=2973
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filt...l&submit=Go%21

********Has anyone seen that issue? If you click on the properties/device status for the SMBus controller – 2930, what does it say? And if you click on Driver Details?********

I downloaded and installed this update. My SMBus properities have not changed. It looks like the dates increased on some of the other devices, but it didn't change that one.

Sorry for wondering if it was the right driver. It clearly listed the X48 during the installation process.

Of course, still stable outside of the S3 standby feature.

[Tony]

Ram was 1333EB 4GB kit, good for 1800+ on the right board pretty easy.

Watchdog is killing me at this time, i had hoped for some screenies as 533fsb was really easy, now i think its stable and watchdog kicks in on every other reboot and I have have to clock down only to clock all the way back up slowly.


It is getting better though, skew options worked well with 8GB and allowed for moderately higher ram clocks using the ubber 1333kits here.

The board has more to offer for sure

[rademan]

Hey all, I'm having the same issue a previous poster had, and haven't had any luck troubleshooting it.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=641

I have a 5.1 analog speaker set, and am only getting mono sound in games, mainly out of the center channel. I can do the speaker test in the IDT Audio Control Panel, and get sound out of all 6 speakers individually (open configuration), but in games all I hear is the center channel, and faint sound out of the others if I press my ear against it. There's no separation, it's the same mono track that the center channel's piping out.

Specs: XP Home SP2
Driver version 5.10.5790.3, date 5/7/2008

In the XP Sound control panel, Advanced Speaker settings, the drop-down is set to 7.1 home theater. I can change it to 5.1 surround, but it doesn't stick. Next time I go back in, it's reset to 7.1. The same thing happens in games like HL Ep 2, which I assume uses the windows default settings.

I've uninstalled the driver, updated to the version above, turned on and off Dolby Live support, Virtual Speaker & Pro Logic II, no change. I updated the Bios to 1554. No luck with the various Hardware Acceleration settings. Changing the Default playback device from IDT Audio1 to IDT Audio2 turned off the sound in games, but not in Windows itself. I am getting stereo sound from iTunes, so it appears to be a surround only issue.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[nick_DX48BT2]

xMrBunglex, gtj, HighTest, Manel and the others -- thanks a lot for your replies! Sorry I didn't reply earlier, I was on vacation without internet acces ;o)

* Regarding the heatsink temp, it's indeed hot to the touch, not quite burning, but definitely hot. I can keep my fingers on it...It seems to be consistent with what you guys reported, so I don't think my board is faulty; regarding ventilation, I should have mentioned my setup...I have a NZXT Lexa case, I replaced the front and back 120mm fan to more powerful ones (Antec and Noctua NFP12), there is a top 80mm, and a side 120 mm that actually blows almost on the northbridge, but it's not very powerful. And it gets hotter with the case open as mentioned by others, so I've always kept it closed, this is how to cool the case with good airflow, I agree.
It seems though that a 40mm fan would be necessary. Especially if overclocking. I've also read that Intel chipsets are designed to work at higher temps that the Nvidia ones.

* Regarding the weird boot issue, I got an email update from Intel, saying they haven't forgotten me, and are working on the case...

* Regarding the SMBus and INF drivers: during the installation, it clearly says X38/X48. I'm using Vista 32 SP1. And the version is indeed newer, I compared with the previous installation and the newer one. They really should update their web page and make clear which version to use. The tech at Intel said to definitely use the 6/2008 release (actual driver date range from 09/2007 to 02/2008 depending on the component in System Devices in the device manager).

*** Can anybody do this quick test? I'd really like to know if I have a defective motherboard (only 2 days left for return!) or if I found a bug:
Click on System Devices in device Manager, Intel ICH9 Family SMBus Controller - 2930, properties---> then in the General Tab, under Device Status, what does it say? And if you go in the next Driver tab, and click on Driver Details, what happens?
Because, if I just click on properties and go to the Driver tab, like the others here have reported, it shows the correct driver date and the "Intel" name. The bug is *only* when clicking on Driver Details and under Device Status of the first General tab...weird.
Thanks a lot in advance!!

[gtj]

* Regarding the SMBus and INF drivers: during the installation, it clearly says X38/X48. I'm using Vista 32 SP1. And the version is indeed newer, I compared with the previous installation and the newer one. They really should update their web page and make clear which version to use. The tech at Intel said to definitely use the 6/2008 release (actual driver date range from 09/2008 to 02/2008 depending on the component in System Devices in the device manager).

*** Can anybody do this quick test? I'd really like to know if I have a defective motherboard (only 2 days left for return!) or if I found a bug:
Click on System Devices in device Manager, Intel ICH9 Family SMBus Controller - 2930, properties---> then in the General Tab, under Device Status, what does it say? And if you go in the next Driver tab, and click on Driver Details, what happens?
Because, if I just click on properties and go to the Driver tab, like the others here have reported, it shows the correct driver date and the "Intel" name. The bug is *only* when clicking on Driver Details and under Device Status of the first General tab...weird.
Thanks a lot in advance!!

Are you noticing any other side effects? Does Everest show all of the temps, voltages and fans? If so, the SMBus controller is working fine and I wouldn't worry about it. The SMBus controller is actually embedded in the ICH9 so it's very unlikely to be bad.

Oh yeah, do you see the correct stuff in the BIOS hardware monitoring page? I forgot if you did or not.

[nick_DX48BT2]

Are you noticing any other side effects? Does Everest show all of the temps, voltages and fans? If so, the SMBus controller is working fine and I wouldn't worry about it. The SMBus controller is actually embedded in the ICH9 so it's very unlikely to be bad.

Oh yeah, do you see the correct stuff in the BIOS hardware monitoring page? I forgot if you did or not.

Yes, I actually see everthing fine in the BIOS monitoring page, normal temperatures. And in Vista, it shows the voltages, temps, fans all OK.

The reason I am worried, is because at the first Windows install, I did not get the popup message from Vista saying there was no driver for SMBus. I noticed that only on the second reinstall, after taking the motherboard out of the case when troubleshooting the cold boot issue (Intel told me it could be a shortcircuit...I knew I was careful with the alignment of the screws on the tray but removed the board out of the case anyway nothing to lose, there was no issue of course!). Only after that, did I try to reinstall windows and got the message. I may have missed it the first time because it briefly appears above the windows taskbar as an "information" popup window.

Given that is still happens on my third re-install with the new drivers, I'm wondering if the board has been damaged, is faulty, or if it's yet another Intel bug.

That's why I would be very grateful if you guys could go in the device manager and tell me if you see the same bug ;o)

[mryerse]

Mine also shows "No drivers are installed for this device. " on the general tab, but shows a driver on the drivers tab.

[Miwo]

Mine shows the same thing, but Everest, Speedfan, and any other monitoring utility that supports the dx38bt are working fine. I wouldn't worry about it

[nick_DX48BT2]

Mine also shows "No drivers are installed for this device. " on the general tab, but shows a driver on the drivers tab.

Thanks so much!!! So I'm not the only one with this bug, and I guess I didn't damage my motherboard when playing with it to try to resolve the boot issue ;o)

Do other people see this bug?

Just FYI, I'm not paranoid, but I 'm bringing this issue because Vista showed a popup window saying there was no driver installed for the device, and an option to try to resolve it (just downloaded the drivers again). Some people may have missed it, because the popup windows fades pretty quickly.

I wonder of many of you have the same bug. And it would be good to know if it's just a display bug or if it affect (or will affect) any functionality or reliability...I also disabled the onbaord sound and maybe there is a relationship, not sure. Or it's because of SP1, new, Intel hasn't seen the bug yet.

[nick_DX48BT2]

Mine shows the same thing, but Everest, Speedfan, and any other monitoring utility that supports the dx38bt are working fine. I wouldn't worry about it

Thanks! I agree, if I'm not the only one seeing that, then chances are it should be fine, and it's just a bug from the Intel drivers. But it's still strange that Vista showed me a popup window specifically talking about it, even offering to solve the issue.

I'm going to contact Intel to let them know, and see what they can do. I've contacted them already but their first suggestions weren't very good (and didn't work), so with the new findings they'll probably realize it's not just me and escalate.

[nick_DX48BT2]

I was wondering the percentage of people who see and don't see the bug with the SMBus driver in the device manager...apparently some see it, some don't. I wonder if it's a compatibility issue with some hardware configuration or something.

Can you guys post in just one line if you see or don't see the message "No drivers are installed for this device", and I'll compare hardware/software?

xMrBunglex -- do you have the same bug?
By the way, have you tried IDCC back again? (I think you had some issues with it?) Were you able to get back to normal by uninstalling IDCC without re-installing Vista?
I found that you'll see errors in the Event Log if you empty the Temp folder of your user account, because IDCC stores permanently files there, which is definitely not something it should be doing. Other than that, after installation there are some IOCBIOS and XT errors in the log sometimes. But definitely you have to not delete files in your user/app data/local/temp folder...


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Vista Ultimate SP1 32 bit
DX48BT2
Q9300
Corsair 2x2GB 1333 C9DHX
Corsair 620HX (620 W)
Velociraptor 10,000 rpm 300 GB & Hitachi 1 TB
X-Fi Titanium
Asus EAH3650

[Miwo]

IDCC is so completely broke on my machine. Changing FSB does nothing and its hung up my system on more than one occasion. I've all but given up on it. Didn't have much success with IDCC on my XBX2 either, oh well

Hope the new bios comes soon, im itching to tweak tRD settings!

[oldsarge]

FYI Nick

General "This device is working properly"

Driver 1/1/2007 ver 6.4.0.1

Everest readings all normal.

[down8]

FYI Nick

General "This device is working properly"

Driver 1/1/2007 ver 6.4.0.1

Everest readings all normal.

Same here.

-bZj

[Randy]

Nick,

General: This device is working properly

Driver: 6.2.0.1019

[nick_DX48BT2]

OK, I talked to Intel again (45 min of tests), and after trying to reinstall the drivers another time (!), they said it could be a conflict somewhere (really?) or they could RMA my motherboard but don't think it will solve my problems. They said that if I get the message "no drivers installed", there is a real problem, and it needs to be fixed. So I insisted on them trying the same driver version as me, and also the latest ones, with Vista SP1, to see if they have the same bug-- they say they will find a computer to do the test. The mobo they had to do some tests with me on the phone was driver version 6.4.xxx. The current version is 8.3.0.1008 on the DX48BT2 CD or on the website, but you get 8.6.1001 from the 9.x.x.xxx June 2008 package on their Intel series 4 page, same bug for me anyway either case.

mryerse, Miwo: so for ICH9 Family SMBus Controller - 2930, under the General tab, Device Status, you get "No drivers are installed for this device.", but on the Drivers tab, it shows Intel's name and the driver version -- which one and which date? What happens when you click on "driver details"?

Randy, down8, oldsarge: thanks a lot for your update!!! You have version 6.xxxxx, which is definitely different from me. With the DX48BT2, it's 8.xxxx in the CD or on the website...no choice for the older 6.xxxxx...

The other thing that could happen, is I installed from a Vista SP1 DVD. Intel may not have tested that. Also, I flashed the BIOS to the May version.
I wonder if the bug is:
- all 8.xxxx versions
- because of 8.xxxxx and SP1 (install with SP1, not upgrade to SP1)
- the new BIOS
- something else

More info from mryerse, Miwo would help me investigate ;o) .... and others if you get a chance ;o) So far I don't like the guy at Intel telling me there's a problem if I see that, there is a conflict or it's really a bug....sounds like I'm doing research and testing for them here.

[Miwo]

8.3.0.1008
1/13/2007

I installed with SP1
Using 1554 Bios

Pretty sure I pulled the latest driver from the website as opposed to installing off the CD

[mryerse]

I have 8.3.0.1008 1/13/2007. I think these are what Windows used during the OS install. I have Vista Ultimate 64. Downloaded 8.3.1.1010 10/2/2007 (Intel® Chipset Software Installation Utility for Intel® Desktop Boards) from their website, it says I already have 8.4.0.10.1016. I can overwrite if I want to. Clicked no for now.

This reminds me that I had tried installing the "RAID: Intel® Matrix Storage Manager Driver", but running the .exe from within Windows doesn't seem to do anything. Can you only run that during the OS install? Am I missing some RAID functionality because of that? When I go to Storage Controllers in the device manager, I see Marvell and Microsoft, but not an Intel controller. I think there should be an Intel controller in there, no?

Edit: The Vista DVD I used has SP1 also.

[nick_DX48BT2]

Miwo and mryerse -- thanks a lot!! It sounds like the bug is with the 8.xxx drivers (CD or latest version) and SP1. The guy at Intel asked me if I could try without SP1...well no I have the SP1 DVD, I didn't patch or slipstream, so no choice there.

BTW, what happens when you click on "Driver Details"?

I don't know if I'll get answers from others but it sounds like there is a bug with Vista SP1 and the drivers to me. I was hoping Intel would say something along the lines of "yes we know, we'll fix it and don't worry it doesn't affect anything", but it's not what they said at all. Hopefully they'll escalate as promised and I'll know more soon ;o)

[mryerse]

Driver details behaves as you'd expect. Properties and their values are available to look at. Driver version and date match that shown on the driver tab.

[nick_DX48BT2]

Driver details behaves as you'd expect. Properties and their values are available to look at. Driver version and date match that shown on the driver tab.

So if you click on the Driver tab of the SMBus controller properties, it shows the driver date, the Intel name, and below if you click on the Driver Details button, it shows you the details OK? But on the first General tab, Device Status, it says "No drivers are installed for this device"?

See pic below...

For me, if I click on Driver Details, there's an error message. This is weird...
Miwo, do you get an error message there too, what kind?

[tpst03]

Hello. I have a question about strap
I've seen some X48 boards like P5E64 EVO can reach over 450FSB with 333 N/B strap.
But I saw someone in this thread said that DX48BT2 can reach only about 430~440FSB with 333 N/B strap
I'll buy DX48BT2 with Q9450 and OCZ DDR3 PC3-8500(D9GTR)..
Can DX48BT2 reach 450FSB with 333 N/B Strap?
If it can't, I'll buy P5E64 EVO or RAMPAGE EXTREME

[mryerse]

Heh, I can't get past 333 on the 333 strap.

[gtj]

Hello. I have a question about strap
I've seen some X48 boards like P5E64 EVO can reach over 450FSB with 333 N/B strap.
But I saw someone in this thread said that DX48BT2 can reach only about 430~440FSB with 333 N/B strap
I'll buy DX48BT2 with Q9450 and OCZ DDR3 PC3-8500(D9GTR)..
Can DX48BT2 reach 450FSB with 333 N/B Strap?
If it can't, I'll buy P5E64 EVO or RAMPAGE EXTREME

Heh, I can't get past 333 on the 333 strap.

On the X48 I'm at 450FSB 333/1333 (333 strap)
Vmch 1.375
Vfsb 1.325
DDR3-1800 8-7-6-24-84-1T (2x 1gb)
Vdimm 1.82

Passes 4 hours of OCCT mix.

Now I do think I fried my E8500 because I can only get it to 450x8 with reasonble Vcore now.

[nick_DX48BT2]

Hi it's me...sorry to bother you guys with the question again ;o)

I was wondering what Miwo and the others get when they click on Driver Details in the screenshot I posted yesterday...

I wonder also if anyone with the DX48BT2 and the drivers from the CD or website (8.xxxxx) gets the same bug...