ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe discussion

[BenchZowner]

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p.s. Tony have you got any technical info on the new BIOS setting ? ( CPU Margin Enhancement )

[jugeen]

thx Bill!

[pmp]

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EEK! find SB/NB voltages not at MB back There is quite a lot of points where you can measure it

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p.s. Tony have you got any technical info on the new BIOS setting ? ( CPU Margin Enhancement )

This option affects FSB signal, and it's here due to... Intel recommendation.
Basically it affects OC margin for upcoming, cheapo Q8200. It _may_ enhance a little typical Yorkfields as well.

Performance mode does not change anything, Compatible - yes it does - Optimized - depends on CPU uCode.

[BenchZowner]

@Voltages... I prefer measuring them on the caps, so back side is where I like them
I'd rather not tell ppl to measure their voltages on Mosfets or SMDs due to ( 1) Need True RMS DMMs for "accurate" readings ) [ 2) SMDs for the danger of short-circuiting something ]

This option affects FSB signal, and it's here due to... Intel recommendation.
Basically it affects OC margin for upcoming, cheapo Q8200. It _may_ enhance a little typical Yorkfields as well.

Performance mode does not change anything, Compatible - yes it does - Optimized - depends on CPU uCode.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think it helped me gain some FSB with the E8500 when I switched it to "Performance Mode".

[over@locker886]

NB and RAM voltage points..

[zeuverclok]

PCB made in taiwan ?

[BenchZowner]

China for my board

[jugeen]

i know this is not a big achievement but after 2 days finally i could do SPi 1M on DDR3 2000. so I am happy now!

[ivo0613]

Hi jugeen, can you post your BIOS setting? I have 2 X 1G Crucial Ballistix and stucked at around DDR3-1600ish..... Thanks!

[jugeen]

Ai Overclocker Tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 09.0
FSB Frequency: 450
PCIE Frequency: 100
FSB Strap To North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR3_1800
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS Latency: 7
DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 6
DRAM RAS Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS TO RAS Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 60
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read To Precharge Time: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
DRAM Write Training: Disabled
MEM OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Lighter
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level: 7
CPU Voltage: 1.3v
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.630
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.630
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.2
DRAM Voltage: 1.94
NB Voltage: 1.24
NB GTL Voltage: Auto
SB Voltage: 1.1
PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal

[Fitseries3]

im using the 0902 bios and i cant seem to get my ballistix 1600mhz kit past 1550mhz. any suggestions?
i've tried more volts, loosening timings, more NB volts... nothing seems to help.

[stephen23]

Ballisttix 1600CL7 stable@1.58V

[Fitseries3]

maybe my voltage is too high? i've been trying 1.8-1.9v for 7-7-7-20.

is there any way to change the command rate yet?

[jugeen]

what settings do you use? setting bellow is stable for me.

configuration:
Asus P5Q3 Deluxe
2GB Corsair Dominator 18000C7
C2D E8500
Asus GTX280
Samsung F1 320GB

BIOS:
CPU Ratio Setting: 7.0
FSB Frequency: 480
PCIE Frequency: 100
FSB Strap To North Bridge: 400
DRAM Frequency: DDR3_1440
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: delay 250ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: delay 250ps
CAS Latency: 8
DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 8
DRAM RAS Precharge: 8
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 24
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 88
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
DRAM Write Training: Disabled
MEM OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Lighter
Common Performance Level: 8
CPU Voltage: 1.225
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.615
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.615
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.3
DRAM Voltage: 1.9
NB Voltage: 1.2
NB GTL Voltage: Auto
SB Voltage: 1.1
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.5v
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: delay 200ps
CPU Margin Enchancement: Performance Mode

[Fitseries3]

configuration:
Asus P5Q3 Deluxe
2gig's crucial ballistix 1600cas7
C2D E8500
2x VT3870x2's
seagate 7200.11 500gb
pc power and cooling 860watt
d-tek fuzion/pa120.2/laing d5

BIOS:
CPU Ratio Setting: 7.5
FSB Frequency: 550
PCIE Frequency: 100
FSB Strap To North Bridge: auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR3-1466
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
CAS Latency: 7
DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 7
DRAM RAS Precharge: 6
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 18
Row Refresh Cycle Time: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
DRAM Write Training: Disabled
MEM OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Common Performance Level: Auto
CPU Voltage: 1.3625
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.64
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.32
DRAM Voltage: 1.9
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Voltage: Auto
SB Voltage: 1.1
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.5v
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
CPU Margin Enchancement: <<<i dont have this for some reason>>>

im using the 0902 bios with the above settings and it's 24/7 stable under full load and benchable.

i cant get the ram to run over 1550mhz though.

EDIT: my ram can do 2146mhz stable for me on my p5k3 dlx and my e8500 has done 5ghz on water and 5.62ghz on TEC.

[Tony]

fitseries3 ... flash to 0904

Benchzoner, no idea, Asus will never tell I bet, we will have to look at registers.

Sharing settings with DDR3 i have found to be a waste of time, to many chipset variables for it to be a sure way of gettting a stable system using close to the same hardware, chipset and ram ic's are never the same, they always need something different.

Also for those using some of the newer OCZ 1800 rated dimms, some are a slightly lower bin samsung which does do a lot better with CAS9, so if you are having issues with 1800 and CAS8, move to CAS9 and try again, you can usually climb up the fsb again.

[Fitseries3]

tried 0904 and 1600mhz will post but BSOD on bootup everytime. tried different timings, voltages(1.8v to 2.1v), different straps and still nothing. same crap. what now? this is crap that i have to underclock my $300 ram when i know it's capable of 2100mhz+ easy.

EDIT: oh great..... now it's flashed itself back to 0507.

[BenchZowner]

Benchzoner, no idea, Asus will never tell I bet, we will have to look at registers.

Here's what I've been told:

The Compatible mode is for Q-spec processors and the Performance mode is for the non Q-spec processors. If you leave the option to Optimized, the BIOS will select the best option for you.

I have a feeling that this has got to do with GTL ( CPU & NB ) enhancements for the "Auto" options.

[Cische]

Hy boys, I have this card for some days and that's' what I could do as Max liquid Fsb ....

configuration:
Asus P5Q3 Deluxe
2gig's Kingston HyperX DDR3: kit PC14400
C2D E8500
Lunasio Liquid cooling Cpu
Bios 0904

Ai Overclocker Tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 06.0
FSB Frequency:550
PCIE Frequency: 100
FSB Strap To North Bridge: 400
DRAM Frequency: DDR3_1460
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS Latency: 7
DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 7
DRAM RAS Precharge: 7
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 21
RAS TO RAS Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read To Precharge Time: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Auto
DRAM Write Training: Auto
MEM OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level:11
CPU Voltage: 1.350v
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.4
DRAM Voltage: 1.90
NB Voltage: 1.5
NB GTL Voltage: 0,55
SB Voltage: Auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto
Load-Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto


By cische

[Tony]

tried 0904 and 1600mhz will post but BSOD on bootup everytime. tried different timings, voltages(1.8v to 2.1v), different straps and still nothing. same crap. what now? this is crap that i have to underclock my $300 ram when i know it's capable of 2100mhz+ easy.

EDIT: oh great..... now it's flashed itself back to 0507.

i have had much better results upto now on the 0904, there should be another bios aslong this week that does sort the issue a little further also.

[strange|ife]

I think asus recycles and RMA's out the boards you guys on LN2 brutalize lol

i swear i had many Asus rma boards with 680i/intel chipsets that looked beat up or had frost damage on one a couple of years ago.

carry on, sorry to thread jack

[Fitseries3]

i have had much better results upto now on the 0904, there should be another bios aslong this week that does sort the issue a little further also.

thanks Tony. looks like more sitting and waiting until another bios comes out.

[iboomalot]

interesting Super Pi screenies

Does the 1M test not use the ram???

my slower setup at the same CPU clocks had the same results if not slightly faster using DDR2 and lower FSB

[Tony]

you need to run 8m minimum to tell, 32m is better

[iboomalot]

you need to run 8m minimum to tell, 32m is better

how does this compare???