**Unified** DFI LanParty UT 790FX-M2R-M2RS / Phenom /Data Base Thread**

[justapost]

Thx bro, have you tried it? The changelog only mentions "Major Reasons of Change: Fixed use AMD Sempron 3000+ CPU can’t into CMOS Setup". BTW Amd accepted both of my Phenoms for RMA. I just received a new 9850BE. Unfortunately they did not inspect the cips so I have no verification now if they died from overclocking or by that vdimm sensors issue.:shrung:

[Brother Esau]

Just saw it on the site 2day a couple of hours ago when I posted it. So in short no My time is extremely limited right now and I don't know if I'm gonna be the one to do this ATM

[keithlm]

Just saw it on the site 2day a couple of hours ago when I posted it. So in short no My time is extremely limited right now and I don't know if I'm gonna be the one to do this ATM

DARN IT.... how many BIOS has DFI released since I ended up with this unstable POS Gigabyte board?

I'm jealous. You dang DFI people...

If Gigabyte would only release a stable bios. I can't accept that this Gigabyte board can't be made as stable as any other sb600 board. I suspect they could easily fix the DS5 problems... but won't do it because it would break backward compatibility with some other things. (Or perhaps not "fix" the problems... the sb600 is still a major issue... but they could provide better stability.)

(But if my Phenom would work BETTER... I don't care if a Sempron can't run on it....)

[ea6gka]

got my new mushkin pc8500 4 gigz of memory

i am concerned about the 2.1 V vdimm though...

[Brother Esau]

"NEW" D.F.I LanParty UT 790FX-M2R ~ 6/12/2008 Beta Bios>>>>>>http://www.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downlo...FLAG=B&SITE=US

Can someone please test this Bios and give some feedback? I don't have time to do this do to pressing things going on right now

[justapost]

Can it be that this board does not support wakeuponlan?

EDIT: Now what crap is this it can not even boot from lan.

I'm on the latest stable DFI bios atm, is there a version with a network boot option?

got my new mushkin pc8500 4 gigz of memory

i am concerned about the 2.1 V vdimm though...

Why 2.1V aint that much. I run my cb tracers at 2.26V bios (2.3V dmm) 24/7.Ok I had two dead phenoms on this board but tht had other causes. 9600BE (still alive) survived and i never played much with the nb on that chip in opposite to my 9500 and 9850be.

[JWilson]

I see Rebels Haven has posted a mod of the 417 & 612 bios that has 2 more voltages, 2 more VID's/FID's, and the TLB-Fix Disable/Enable setting added to it.

[Oese]

Can someone please test this Bios and give some feedback? I don't have time to do this do to pressing things going on right now

I'm sorry be i do not have a sempron

[justapost]

@oese: Looking at your sig i see you use watercooling. I'm in the process of watercooling my system here too. Can you recommend coolers for the chipset?

I use
D-Tek FuZion v2, Swiftech MCR320 360mm Radiator, Laing DDC
Keeps my 9850be at ~50° at 1.45V under load, that is ~15°C better than the xigmatec.

BTW: AMD sent be two 9500 and one 9850be back. I sent em one 9500 and one 9850be. Playing fair i contacted their support.

Now i wonder which one i should keep

CAAWB AA
0749 CPMW or 0749 EPAW

[saveus222]

wots the difference between the UT and DK versions. will the deneb cores be supported on DK ?

[Oese]

@oese: Looking at your sig i see you use watercooling. I'm in the process of watercooling my system here too. Can you recommend coolers for the chipset?

I use
D-Tek FuZion v2, Swiftech MCR320 360mm Radiator, Laing DDC
Keeps my 9850be at ~50° at 1.45V under load, that is ~15°C better than the xigmatec.

I used a zern chipset cooler for the cfx nb, does a good job and costs you 9€ NEW directly from zern. should fit to the 790FX nb as well. sb i think can be cooled passively, or another zern nb cooler could do.

most important is the pwms anyway i think. at forumdeluxx, we thought that maybe the pwm-cooler for the dfi lp ut p35 would fit, seems like but noone tryed... the p35 has the same heatpipe/transpiper and alu-heatsink assembly as the m2r..

i'm cooling the chipset by the stock heatpipe and transpiper. for x2 that is just fine...

and i think one should not bother too much about high temps on the pwms.. they're digital and designed to stand temps up to 120°C. so something around 75°C should be ok.. but nevertheless, watercooled pwms are a fine deal

look at this:

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/show...&postcount=945

[AlabamaCajun]

I'm running stock on the stock sink modified. I would try the new BIOS but I need better cooling before I do as I need to up the volts to get my stick in the mud Phenom to go over stock. Stable as stone at 2.5G 1.26V stock.

[JWilson]

If I set the ht link freq to 2.2, or 2.4, or 2.6, cpu-z always shows 2.0. Anyone else see this?

[justapost]

I used a zern chipset cooler for the cfx nb, does a good job and costs you 9€ NEW directly from zern. should fit to the 790FX nb as well. sb i think can be cooled passively, or another zern nb cooler could do.

most important is the pwms anyway i think. at forumdeluxx, we thought that maybe the pwm-cooler for the dfi lp ut p35 would fit, seems like but noone tryed... the p35 has the same heatpipe/transpiper and alu-heatsink assembly as the m2r..

i'm cooling the chipset by the stock heatpipe and transpiper. for x2 that is just fine...

and i think one should not bother too much about high temps on the pwms.. they're digital and designed to stand temps up to 120°C. so something around 75°C should be ok.. but nevertheless, watercooled pwms are a fine deal

look at this:

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/show...&postcount=945

Thank you oese, very helpfull.
I wonder if that kit would also fit (way too expensive).
http://www.aquatuning.de/product_inf...eezer-Set.html

I wonder if i can mount two of these like the transpipers but they are alu.
http://www.aquatuning.de/product_inf...lel-G1-8-.html

However the pwm cooling will add alot of preausre to the cooling system, not sure if it's worth it, as you said it's digital and can handle high temps.

[ea6gka]

my first attempt...seriously now that was easy to achieve

[ea6gka]

also someone explain me how on earth can the 790fx reach temps high as 72C under load when it only needs 10w????

[JWilson]

my highest suicide run:

[justapost]

A short update. Got a new 9850BE from AMD last week. The chip was made in week 11/08, so not the latest one.
I tried to oc under linux (debian lenny 64bit) and i was hitting a wall at ~2.75GHz with cpu temps ~75°C on air cooling.
On thuesday my watercooling parts arrived so I started playing with higher voltages. With 1.5V core and cpu temps are at ~58°C max. With the xig i always had temps above 75°C with voltages above ~1.425V, so for the moment i'm happy with that. I tried to get a good hwbot wprime result for a few hours for the rest of the evening.
Yesterday was really weird. I had all types of issues starting with random cmos clears, no post no boot, freezing issues. It turned out that 1066 mode was no longer stable (tried lower nb speed different timings voltages, driver modes). Even at 800 mode i had above issues, so i switched to 2GB GSkill 6400-4-4-3-5 modules. System is rock solid again.
Under winxp 32bit the chip runs stable at 2.8GHz ~1.3V however. Today I tried ocing under winxp 32bit.
NB 1.3V
MEM 400 5-5-5-15 1.85V

2.5GHz CPU 1.225V
2.6GHz CPU 1.25V
2.7GHz CPU 1.275V
2.8GHz CPU 1.3V

So fas so good. Now for 2.9GHz i tried 1.3V-1.45V in 0.025V steps. The system allways froze after a few minutes running prime95, had no idle freezes.

Now at 1.475V the chip runs prime95 for about an hour and also passed some idle freeze testings. Temps under load are 55°C max (the cpu temp is ~1°C higher than the core temp here).

BTW: My GBT Odin 550W PSU died last week. The maximum that psu had to handle was ~300W. While I wait for the RMA i use an Zalman 850W PSU.

@ea6gka: Had an 9500 for a while, taht chip did 2.55GHz max at 1.25V, so 2.6GHz at 1.21V look pretty good to me.

@JWilson: Cracy suicide, could you boot with those settings or did you change the multis under windows? Also can you run 14x230 = 3320MHz stable and without idle freezings at 1.4V? And a last question what temps do you get with 1.4V and 1.5V under load?

[JWilson]

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@JWilson: Cracy suicide, could you boot with those settings or did you change the multis under windows? Also can you run 14x230 = 3320MHz stable and without idle freezings at 1.4V? And a last question what temps do you get with 1.4V and 1.5V under load?

I boot from the bios using those settings and never use Windows OC software. 14x230 is 3220(not 3320 as your reply says) and never freezes, but it fails prime in a hour or so. Suicide shot is 14x240. That is 3320 and sometimes freezes once-in-a-while. I'm all watercooled with several fans blowing on everything. Never checked temps, but shutdown is 60C and never activates.

Waiting for the next Phenom revision

[justapost]

I boot from the bios using those settings and never use Windows OC software. 14x230 is 3220(not 3320 as your reply says) and never freezes, but it fails prime in a hour or so.
Suicide shot is 14x240. That is 3320 and sometimes freezes once-in-a-while.

Thanks, you have a good clockerit seems. 20MHz-40MHz difference would mean 1.5MHz-3MHz lower ref HT. Never saw an bigger difference than 5MHz for the cpu clock here.

I'm all watercooled with several fans blowing on everything. Never checked temps, but shutdown is 60C and never activates.

Have mine set to 75°C. I reach 60°C with 1.55V here. If I measure the voltage with a DMM it's 1.59V.


This is my imit at the moment. 14.5x202MHz works at 1.5V for 203MHz i need 1.55V.

Waiting for the next Phenom revision

I ordered an 9950BE hope that think will take me over 3GHz.

[Oese]

Thank you oese, very helpfull.
I wonder if that kit would also fit (way too expensive).
http://www.aquatuning.de/product_inf...eezer-Set.html

I wonder if i can mount two of these like the transpipers but they are alu.
http://www.aquatuning.de/product_inf...lel-G1-8-.html

However the pwm cooling will add alot of preausre to the cooling system, not sure if it's worth it, as you said it's digital and can handle high temps.

mmh i dont think the first kit will fit. looks like the pwm section of the 680SLI board is designed differently..

of course one can mount some small coolers that fit somewhere on that cooling system.. there was a suggestion in that thread also..

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/show...&postcount=578

i think such will lower the temps a little without giving too much heat into the cooling system.. and one can use the heatpipe to cool sb, nb and pwms..

here car_bon shows how he made it, was a watercool cooler..

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/show...postcount=1384

[iocedmyself]

Well after 2 faithful years my air cooled 3.6ghz OCed 4400x2 toledo core has been set aside. After 3 motherboard blow ups (two cfx3200 DFI LP dr/g and an ASUS A8N ultra deluxe) the last of which fried my 2900xt and the blessed 4400x2 delivered to me mistakenly by newegg appears to have been roasted as well. I can't be sure it's dead quite yet, but the last board still ran a 144 opty, though would not post with the 4400...though it may be fried (i really really hope not though) the screenies and benchmarks of the overclocking bliss it provided live on.

On the brighter side, i've gotten new toys to play with. DFI 790FX LP UT M2R 2x2gigs of DDR2 1066 gskill ram, a phenom 9850 BE quad and i am still waiting on the 4870 to arrive. Newegg was good enough to get the ram to me in only 14 hours after putting the order in....but the video card of course not. stoopid 4th of july had to ruin my purchasing joy.

So hopefully it will get here monday. For the time being i'm still reading up on how to actually overclock everything, while the overdrive app is nice, it just takes the fun out of it. I have high hopes though as it hit 3.1ghz prime stable at stock volts with the suprisingly effective box cooler that came with the phenom. Though the NB was getting a little toasty hovering around 60c idle, as i haven't put the spiffy lil' transpiper extension on and the test case doesn't possess my usual barrage of 6 120mm 110cfm silverstone fans.

But i just realized i need to update the bios to 5/05 as i'm still running 3/07, after which ill crank the clock up and see the difference in my cinebench scores at stock clock which are...

32bit 7641 in xcpu rendering
64bit 9196 in xcpu rendering

always agravates me no one posts 64bit benchmarks for comparison, so don't want to be a hypocrit. quite a leap from the 4400x2 benchs at stock speed of 2.2 which were around 3000 in 32bit and 3540 or soemthing in 64bit.

Just wanted to post about my happy news as it's been a long while since i upgraded. Oh, and to say how happy nvidia's 30.7% single day stock drop made me. =D

[Oese]

3.6ghz 4400x2 ?? i dont believe, its 2.6ghz i suppose??

[ea6gka]

guys , do you know if the 9950 is supported by the mobo?

[saveus222]

im thinking it should be supported.. the only concern is 9950 is a 140 TDP processor.. but the MSI K9A2 Platinum seems to support it so this mobo shldnt have an issue. though i think u shld mail dfi support and ask them.. i saw their bios releases.. nothing mentioning support for the 9950 though