sorry for the late reply guys! i kinda lost track of this thread
great
what chips dont they use?
ask ocz which kit uses what chips
yes
i can tell you in detail
1. hmmm still no final jedec spec for the DDR3 spds... every chip mfc programs their spds different...
2. since there is no spec, the boards ignore the SPD and calculate the timings themselves, interesting...
3. the first reviews and customer posts on forums of ddr3 show press and people complain that the spd doesnt show the kits full speed, some people feel cheated to buy 1600 memory that boots up and is recognized as 1066 memory which is a lot cheaper
4. asking around in the enthusiast community left the impression people dont really care as long as it shows the manufacturer, speed and timings.
5. some ddr3 kits that are beeing sold have impropper spd programming, but they work fine since the boards ignore the spd
6. some ddr2 boards have a fallback mechanism and ignore the spd and load their own timings if the spd doesnt work
7. seeing as there are ddr3 kits on the market with impropper spds, and there isnt a final spd spec and wont be anytime soon, its highly likely that even once a spec is out, the boards will need to implement legacy support and still boot fine with a fallback mechanism much like some ddr2 boards already do and use their own bios timings and ignore the spd.
8. ok... so lets just give people what they want, an spd that shows its ddr2 1800 or 1600 and its rated to run 876 or 766 timings.
in the end, we were wrong, at some point asus and the others started to read the spds and no longer use their own timings, probably since some memory vendors complained that their memory can run tighter timings but the board loads the same timings for every memory. this was to be expected and fine... what we didnt expect however is that asus and other mainboard makers ignored the fact that there were many ddr3 kits on the market with impropper spds, since they were programmed before there was a spd spec and in a time when spds didnt have to work fine. why they did this, and why others followed... i dont know until today...
i know that a couple of cellshock, supertalent, ocz and even corsair customers had problems with their older sticks with older spds as a result...
and kiwi, why would i recommend spdtool to flash ddr3 spds if it wouldnt work? :P
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