another sign of respect from the Muslim world, that's just happened:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7485022.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7485062.stm
Bulldozer rampage in Jerusalem
BBC witness:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7485122.stm
4 killed, 45 wounded...wow...I'm sure they can do better...what about a schoolyard next time?forgot, they already done that...but still I do trust them for being imaginative when it comes to the slaughter of civilians...
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I'll respect people's beliefs all right, but they can get bent on stuff like this tbh.
If not, I'm gonna start complaining about the arabic music for hours on end, driving down the street whenever someone gets married claxoning all the way into the next village and so on and so forth.
That threads upon MY beliefs.
I believe that Music is privat and should be kept that so you don't disturb other people
I believe claxon's (horns) on cars should only be used when the traffic mandates it, not when someone weds.
I could go on but.... you get the picture.
Mind you, I'm no racist or anything, they just pee me off with stuff like this. such trivial stuff
The problem is that now that they have the world's attention focused on them , they are going to complain about every little thing. Not realizing it is beginning to piss people off that they are whining about every little thing.
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Seems like you people care.........
Personally I don't give a crap. If they don't like dogs, so be it.
This is the same crap why our culture is hated everywhere.
Same thing happened with Japan, why was the U.S. giving so much crap about whale hunting? Guess what? The Japanese responded: Well, they kill millions of turkeys, we don't care about what they eat or kill.......
Exactly!
People, stop caring about stupid little things, a dog is a dog and if they don't like 'em? I'm perfectly fine with it.
I'm pretty sure most of us wouldn't like to own a Camel, so foff.
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Ya agreed. It seems to me this is a dangerous thread why should the many be tarnished by the few.
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My thinking on this is that when you are one religion with strong beliefs and ways of living and you move into another country that is totally different you accept what is and what has always been in your dealings with others.
Like that expression:" When in Rome do as the Romans do"
If I were to move to Saudi Arabia I would expect to publically obey their laws and customs and so I think that when people in this case move to Scotland they should accept the local customs not try to change them.
This doesn't mean that Muslim people living in Scotland have to own dogs of their own, but rather to accept the fact that in that country the custom is that dogs are beloved pets.
Flexibility and understanding, without denying ones own beliefs is the answer.
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yah, I don't really care if they like dogs or not. it's their choice to own one or not.
it's the fact that they expect everything to be changed to fit their previous viewpoint. no one is asking them to own and take care of a pet dog. it's a dog on a post card, if they don't want to display the card fine, just don't go make a public issue out of it and expect the entire community or country to bend to their terms.
as already said, if they want to live in an area, they need to adapt to it, instead of trying to change it to fit their previous area. adapt.
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This is a weird thread.
Keeping dogs as pets (i.e. to have emotions for them and keep them in the house) is forbidden (haraam) in Islam. But keeping dogs around to protect property or for work/hunting is not.
Muslims don't hate dogs. Hell they don't hate pigs for that matter. They are just animals considered to be unclean.
Anyway, looks like this was bogus:
only people getting worked up are the non-Muslims
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I'm getting sick of the hidden racism here, I really am.
A dog is unclean to their religion.
Simple fact.
It's the same as using a figure nailed on a cross upside down in some add, and wanting to distribute it through a Church.
Wow, their offended? No...
Everyone posting the bull about, what would not offend them, you're showing you do not know anything about the subject and you're just trying to fit in with current trend it's ok to pick on Muslims because some extremists have taken up arms. You know, the protestant and catholics in Ireland know all to well religion and hate goes well together, in a very twisted and actually unfaithfull way. Learn from them, religion isn't what makes a man, man is what gives birth and direction to a religion ( though the religious might find that blasphemy lol ).
no it isn't. everyone has seen commercials and posters in their lives that were gross. but instead of whining we just move on.
but there is this little annoying group of naggers that always has to be offended of everything. ... sissies. they just can't be taken seriously after a while.
maybe i'm offended too, by young girls wearing kerchiefs and influencing our kids with their borked up attitudes. but you don't hear me complaining all day long.
Last edited by Der_KHAN; 07-03-2008 at 01:20 AM.
Der Khan I actually think their is a lil group of naggers trying to blow everything like this out of proportion. It already been established the OP was wrong, it wasn't the Muslims being upset.
Which is exactly what I'm afraid of. Things like this add up, you read it once doesn't matter twice still ok but if you're reading and hearing about this all the time it will start to become true even when it isn't.
Fear/Hate mongering
Edit: You trying to compare something which is religiously unclean to something which is only 'gross' is a bad one to.
Gross would be a bath tube full with fecies. Or would you think a picture of Jezus, crussified and being taken up the ... by Satan to be just.. gross?
Last edited by Marvin_The_Martian; 07-03-2008 at 01:37 AM.
Couple points to consider. The OP wasn't wrong because they were just reporting a news piece. The news piece had it wrong. Also, a tub of crap would definitely rank higher on the "Islam unclean scale" than a dog or even a pig. Unclean does not mean evil or inherently wrong, it means not clean, i.e. dirty or gross.
In Islam, the pig and dog are not to be harmed or hated because they are creatures made by Allah and should be respected and admired like any of Allah's creations. They're not evil or blasphemous, just dirty and gross and therefore not to be kept in close quarters with humans. No different than Judaism and the law against eating pigs. And actually there's good reason for that, because pigs pass on a fair number of disease and illness to humans.
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True, it was the news article but that wasn't really the point. Not the origin but the subject of the mistake.
I knew that dogs and pigs are not evil, where did I state otherwise? I only said they are considerd unclean to their religion. If Muslims were to be outraged it would not have been because it where a gross picture, but because an aspect of their religion is disregarded.
i mean gross in terms of a bath tube full with fecies.
i mean cmon! i too wouldn't consider dogs to be clean animals. and i also might think twice before letting a dog sit in my hat. but i'm not offended by a stupid poster.
and the comparison with jesus is just way off. for a muslim dogs are not more unclean than pigs. but how is it then that theres no muslim outrage about ham advertisement?
it's not like i don't respect islam. and i don't believe that they all are a bunch of whiners. but there is a very vocal group of idiots among them. and the muslim community isn't producing enough positive publicity to compensate for that. they way i see it, i am being way more tolerant than they are. and i'm getting tired of it. reminds me of jesse jackson. after a while you just don't listen anymore.
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