5 GHz Project: CPU Cooling With Liquid Nitrogen

[DjTonic]

Look at this at Tom's Hardware. What a freaks this is almost unbelivable CPU at -196 C

With just weeks to go to Christmas, the THG crew got together to offer our loyal readers and especially the hardcore geeks among us something really special. Our brainstorming session quickly lead to extreme overclocking. And so we began our highly complex project that required a whole lot of coordination and planning. The working title of our endeavor: The 5 GHz Project

Read full review HERE

[Stang_Man]

first good thing i've seen from THG in a LONG time.

really well thought out project IMO, though, their ln2 container base is really thin!

[afireinside]

I have to agree with What Charlie said on this:
crappy container base and no temps
no vdimm wtf?
no benchies not even super pi?

[Av3ng3r]

That project is great! Nice results and well thought out

[Gleep]

The thing that gets me about this is they ran 0 tests, proving they didn't care about ANY stability just the 5+ gig screenshot. I mean I can hit 3.9 gig for a screenshot that doesn't mean I claim my top O/C is 3.9. They should have run something anything, even IE loading their webpage would have been something.

[afireinside]

even IE loading their webpage would have been something.

To bad they would have crashed doing that...

[Gamer]

they used a 3.4 P4ES, not a 3.2
just look @ multiplier 17x200 = 3.4
highest multi is always on WCPUID.

how low can you fall ?

[PTK]

Not to mention that ASUS did all the modding for their mobo... So basically they just came by.. poured some LN2, took the screenie with some pics and wrote a LONG story about how they are 'cool'.

Sad, thats just sad.

PTK

[lalPOOO]

Well, they could have taken a screenshot of them loading paint, which is something they did do. Don't really understand why they used such a tiny base though.

[Slickthellama]

they are trying to appeal to the toughest critics. The people who eat, sleep, dream, breath, drink and live overclocking. Because see we know everything he says. So he figures he will use his massive budget and sponsorship to do something above our heads. What a stunt.

[Kunaak]

I don't get why people complain about such petty things like the design of the container.

it worked didn't it?

thats like complaining about the color of a prometiea...

plus, isn't this the exact same thing watercooling guys are doing right now, trying to make thinner and thinner cores aboce the CPU so heat transfers with less interference...

I personally like it when someone has the balls or resources for LN2, even if it is THG.
so what if Asus modded thier board.

captaincascade made Opp's cooling?
wanna make fun of opp now?
no.

see how one thing seems ok, but take the exact same thing and put it to someone we respect and then it seems out of place?
fact is, we all need help sometimes.
so thg needed asus, big deal.

a 5 ghz shot is still a hell of an accomplishment regaurdless of how it was done.

[Sovereignty]

Every time I see how THG applies thermal compound I want to curl up in a ball and die.

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by Kunaak
I don't get why people complain about such petty things like the design of the container.

it worked didn't it?

thats like complaining about the color of a prometiea...

plus, isn't this the exact same thing watercooling guys are doing right now, trying to make thinner and thinner cores aboce the CPU so heat transfers with less interference...

I personally like it when someone has the balls or resources for LN2, even if it is THG.
so what if Asus modded thier board.

captaincascade made Opp's cooling?
wanna make fun of opp now?
no.

see how one thing seems ok, but take the exact same thing and put it to someone we respect and then it seems out of place?
fact is, we all need help sometimes.
so thg needed asus, big deal.

a 5 ghz shot is still a hell of an accomplishment regaurdless of how it was done.

I dont like THG either, but i Fully agree.

[wierdAl]

this would be much more impresive if it was stable... i'd like to se it stable at 5ghz, and see some 3dmark results

[Slickthellama]

Originally posted by Sovereignty
Every time I see how THG applies thermal compound I want to curl up in a ball and die.

LOLZ!

[Shane5578]

what do i need to do to get a super P4C800

[Slickthellama]

a famous site and lots of money and the right phone number... You scratch Asus's back they scratch yours. That's how it works.

[Karnivore]

Originally posted by Kunaak
someone we respect

I've cut a bit from your post, I do agree with you, somewhat, however my quote is what it really boils down to, RESPECT. Something that has to be earned, and once lost it is very difficult to get it back, I believe that is the root of the problem.

[Kunaak]

well yes, there are some problems inherent to THG.
like they have clear and obvious allegences to intel,asus and MSI.
so on the hardware front I don't trust them anymore then I'd trust a priest with prison tattoos to be a boy scout leader.

but a 5 ghz shot is probably the smallest group of overclockers there is, cause the amount of people that did 5 ghz so far could probably fit in one car...

so the point is, 5 ghz is still a hugely impressive thing.
plus, I think had say Macci done this, no one would question it one bit, even if there was no benchmarks.
to me, thats alittle "snob-ish" of us in my opinion.
we've all produced screenshots we couldn't back up, but we always get some sort of praise out of it.

I personally can reach 4.41 ghz with my 2.8C, highest screen shot I ever got was 4.337 ghz.
highest benchmark ever is sisoft at 4.2 ghz, and super pi at 4.117.
then 3dmark at 4.094...

if they are in the same boat I am, then thier benchmarks would have been at best maybe 4.8 ghz or so.
then we would have just talked more smack about it all...

completly ignoring that if it was a member here at XS that did it, we'd be all over it, like white on rice.
but instead, we sneer at it, cause the container isn't made like we've seen others do...

[Anarki]

IMO I find it a lil odd that there isnt any benchies, but hey the people that really know the truth are the people that were there and I bet you that they dont give a rats ass what anyone thinks cos they know the truth.

Why SHOULD they have to do benchies for? People shouldnt take it on themselves to laugh at THG when he is doing his own thing.

I say fair play to the bloke, I cant even get up to 2GHz let alone 5.25

[Kanavit]

to be honest, i wasn't too impressed when i first heard about THG's 5.25ghz P4 EE on LN2. a while ago, a Japanese review site had already accomplished that with Super PI record with P4 EE, didn't they? I've have seen Macci get 5ghz on a regular P4 and 4.5g on EE with Cascade. so, THG 5.25g is respectable but not extroadinary.

[Ragnarok]

well that annoys me is the style of THG articles and their arrogance... as well their constant attempts to portray themselves as "hardcore" (just like the :banana::banana::banana:s @ softocp)

with all their resources, u'd think 5GHz would be a walk in the park for them..

[OCmatrix]

Originally posted by Kunaak
but a 5 ghz shot is probably the smallest group of overclockers there is, cause the amount of people that did 5 ghz so far could probably fit in one car...

Your right in that point, but I think what most of the guys are feeling here is that when your a big site like Tom's and you have hardware companies saying "here is our stock pick the best stuff we have" and "here we had our lab modded this for you" that its not as highly regarded. Alot of guys put time and money into there rigs and push there rigs almost as far as this. You give any noob with avg. understanding of O/Cing and they could reach 5ghz with that hardware. You give Opp, Macci or Captain the same hardware and I bet they could push 5-5.2ghz stable (Tom only had 4.7ghz stable) and show the benchies.

[NapalmV5]

So, how long before the cpu breaks cause of the -196 C temp ?

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by Kanavit
to be honest, i wasn't too impressed when i first heard about THG's 5.25ghz P4 EE on LN2. a while ago, a Japanese review site had already accomplished that with Super PI record with P4 EE, didn't they? I've have seen Macci get 5ghz on a regular P4 and 4.5g on EE with Cascade. so, THG 5.25g is respectable but not extroadinary.

Its not an EE.

Look at the screenshot...
http://www20.tomshardware.com/cpu/20031230/5ghz-11.html