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    Danger Den GTX 280 WB

    Hey Darth Beavis, you around???

    I ordered 2 of these DD 280 blocks and just saw they come with Zalman ramsinks and now I'm concerned... I run an add on card right above my top video card and there is no way I can put zalman heatsinks there. One of the reasons this block was so attractive was that it is a single slot soloution, but with big ramsinks on the back, this is no longer the case.

    I am sure that I'm not going to be the only one running into trouble with this and a simple backplate type soloution would be attractive to us

    Is there any way that you can talk to your people over there at DD to produce a different soloution for cooling the back ram? Like an aluminum retention plate for the back of the card?

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    Is this what you ordered?

    Wow that is sweet! ...at least this side...




    Ahhh I see what you mean, they kill the look, why couldn't they do something better??

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    Just another rant, I like using full card waterblocks, but
    I hate having the PCB exposed on the other side, it would be
    sweet if they made them with some back coverage, especially if they
    have some ram to cool. Like the Koolance did with the 2900xt, they had a
    nice copper/gold heatsink that goes on the back, it is so sweet looking
    when combined with the waterblock....
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofander View Post
    Hey Darth Beavis, you around???

    I ordered 2 of these DD 280 blocks and just saw they come with Zalman ramsinks and now I'm concerned... I run an add on card right above my top video card and there is no way I can put zalman heatsinks there. One of the reasons this block was so attractive was that it is a single slot soloution, but with big ramsinks on the back, this is no longer the case.

    I am sure that I'm not going to be the only one running into trouble with this and a simple backplate type soloution would be attractive to us

    Is there any way that you can talk to your people over there at DD to produce a different soloution for cooling the back ram? Like an aluminum retention plate for the back of the card?

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    I'm not sure if they're sold separately yet but maybe you could get two of these backplates from evga. http://www.evga.com/products/moreInf...eries%20Family
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    Now that is what i am talking about, it's not sexy but it
    looks very functional! Nice info...
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    dengyong, while we wish they can sell it separately, they are proprietary design so only EVGA will sell them. If you want it, you are forced to buy their block but it's a very nice looking block.

    Wait for EK since I think they will also make a watercooled backplate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilikon View Post
    dengyong, while we wish they can sell it separately, they are proprietary design so only EVGA will sell them. If you want it, you are forced to buy their block but it's a very nice looking block.

    Wait for EK since I think they will also make a watercooled backplate.
    To late, EVGA GTX 280 HC on the way.

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    I don't want a watercooled backplate either... I just want something simple and low profile so as not to interfere with the rest of my components.

    The evga block is a perfect example - low profile aluminum retention plate that also cools the rams on the back of the card. Simple and doesnt take up anymore space than neccisary!

    C'mon DD - can we get some help on this? Really $150 on a WB should get me better than zalman ramsinks :p
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    What is "Tieton" and how do I remove that name from the water block?

    What's next? "Wonton" version ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealRedRaider View Post
    @sonofander

    I like your MM case...

    Thanks man, I'll be updating the build thread with pics when I get these cards under water...

    Hopefully you won't see any zalman ramsinks in there

    I wonder if it would be possible to use the "lid" of the stock hsf on top of the card after installing the wb... I get these tomorrow so I'll see what it looks like once I tear them down
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    just make your own acrylic black backplate for the gpu card...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dengyong View Post
    To late, EVGA GTX 280 HC on the way.

    Where did you even find the HC in stock?
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    Quote Originally Posted by septim View Post
    just make your own acrylic black backplate for the gpu card...
    last I checked, acrylic doesn't do a very good job at heat dissapation... sure would look badass though
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    I'm pondering if it would be a good idea to create a custom backplate from copper or aluminium (just cut fins from the surface and drill 4 holes) and colored to your needs. I would definitely kill for a copper backplate

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    I honestly don't understand why anyone would buy a full cover block for the GTX 200 series cards. From my view, the whole point of buying a full cover block is to cool the GPU and the ram. If you're forced to use the passive heatsink(s) anyways, why not save yourself $100 and buy a universal block. I dunno, maybe the EK block will have a better solution for cooling the ram on the backside of these cards than the evga/DD blocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilikon View Post
    I'm pondering if it would be a good idea to create a custom backplate from copper or aluminium (just cut fins from the surface and drill 4 holes) and colored to your needs. I would definitely kill for a copper backplate

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    While I did not specifically ask . . .I notice someone did and DD replied they are making a backplate they just do not have it out yet . . .They have alot of stuff in progress and some things ready but not on their site like 780i blocks, SKulltrail SB blocks, etc. I will ask about an ETA for you guys tho.

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    thanks DB
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    http://www.evga.com/products/moreInf...%20Waterblocks

    its gonna cost alittle more, but Id go for that over the DD one.
    I am not spending $150+ dollars to get ramsinks glued on half the card.

    I will wait and see what comes out first, EK, or EVGA.
    thats what I will be getting.

    I just dont want ramsinks on videocards, cause I am not a fan of permanantly modifying something, as that makes it way harder to sell later on.




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    Can't you use the stock cooler backplate? Screw it on with the waterblock screws.

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    I admit the backplate will be a nice feature . . .but at least Danger Den had a card AT LAUNCH . . .EVGA and EK did not . . .so funny people will take an opportunity to flame DD . . .someone made a comment about why they had a smoked cover and said perhaps it was to block the new of the internals . . .guess that person needs glasses . . .as you can see from the pics in this thread. Even EK Eddy commented about how disappointed he was in DD blocks yet he would not say why . . .yet DD refuses to say ANYTHING bad about his products or any other vendor for that matter (not just on forums but in personal conversations). Heck ,I saw them helping a guy out with a mod when he was upfront about using Koolance projects for that paticular project (Koolance is sponsoring him this round). Then you guys wonder why they do not venture off their company forums to come over here?

    BFG chose Danger Den, EVGA apparently went on their own (and seem to have good solutions) . . .so why hasn't an AIC vendor gone with EK? There is the same fanboism that people have with Thermochill over Black Ice when test results have shown TC is not really superior in meaninful ways . . .and they are so much smaller and have almost NO marketshare . . .and probably will not be around much longer. . . I hope EK can elevate themselves to a better market position . . .they do have good stuff . . .and we can have to really dominant players . . .

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    Come on. Nobody's picking on DD. Its fair game all around, and its equal opportunity bashing around here.

    Naturally EK will pick on DD. What do you expect him to say about his competition?

    DD should at least bring out a completed product. No quick fixes with that blue Zalman heatsinks, even though those aluminum heatsinks do work quite well. Its not just about working well. Good looks sell, and you should know that yourself.

    I'll be the first to bash Swiftech, my usual suported company. Apparently, Swiftech prefers to dwell in the n00b-ization of the liquid cooling market. I don't blame them because the market of TT and Koolance users is humongous, and Swiftech's laughing their way to the bank without having released a single high end product in over a year.

    DD does put out compelling products. It could use a better cpu block than a simple re-hash of its aged TDX, but otherwise, its product line is excellent, albeit sometimes a bit expensive, but that's alright.

    If DD wants to play in the high end space, then it shouldn't be immune from criticism, whether warranted or not.

    I've got opinions to bash every single company. When you vie for my dollars, you better believe that I will be highly critical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanY View Post
    Come on. Nobody's picking on DD. Its fair game all around, and its equal opportunity bashing around here.

    Naturally EK will pick on DD. What do you expect him to say about his competition?

    DD should at least bring out a completed product. No quick fixes with that blue Zalman heatsinks, even though those aluminum heatsinks do work quite well. Its not just about working well. Good looks sell, and you should know that yourself.

    I'll be the first to bash Swiftech, my usual suported company. Apparently, Swiftech prefers to dwell in the n00b-ization of the liquid cooling market. I don't blame them because the market of TT and Koolance users is humongous, and Swiftech's laughing their way to the bank without having released a single high end product in over a year.

    DD does put out compelling products. It could use a better cpu block than a simple re-hash of its aged TDX, but otherwise, its product line is excellent, albeit sometimes a bit expensive, but that's alright.

    If DD wants to play in the high end space, then it shouldn't be immune from criticism, whether warranted or not.

    I've got opinions to bash every single company. When you vie for my dollars, you better believe that I will be highly critical.
    Read my post . . .EK commenting is lame . . .DD has more class is my point. Eddy probably realized he made a misstep (which is the FIRST time I have seen him do so which leads me to think it was a fluke). I TOTALLY support holding Danger Den's feet to the fire . . .hell, I kept begging them to go back to the older style acrylic top instead of delrin for their gpu blocks . . .


    As for the high space . . .Danger Den pretty much was the pioneer of one of them into that high space of water-cooling . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthBeavis View Post
    As for the high space . . .Danger Den pretty much was the pioneer of one of them into that high space of water-cooling . . .
    You won'thear arguments from me there, but they really do need to innovate and release a follow up competitive cpu block product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanY View Post
    You won'thear arguments from me there, but they really do need to innovate and release a follow up competitive cpu block product.
    let's hear some ideas about what you guys would like to see . . .they ARE READING . . . .if you don't want to be public and you don't want to email them I will relay info for you

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