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    Quote Originally Posted by bowman View Post
    That's great to hear.

    We've only heard about Bloomfield desktop chips so far - will there be UP and DP Xeons around too this year?
    All I have seen first hand are the Bloomfields. I don't have any hard data on the others.

    BTW, I'm staring at a couple Bloomfields, but no boards to run em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstp2009 View Post
    All I have seen first hand are the Bloomfields. I don't have any hard data on the others.

    BTW, I'm staring at a couple Bloomfields, but no boards to run em.
    You bring the chips, I'll find the boards..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mstp2009 View Post
    All I have seen first hand are the Bloomfields. I don't have any hard data on the others.

    BTW, I'm staring at a couple Bloomfields, but no boards to run em.
    Punch a hole in them and wear them in a necklace at some geek convention.

    Count the number of people who recognize them and cry on the spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowman View Post
    Punch a hole in them and wear them in a necklace at some geek convention.

    Count the number of people who recognize them and cry on the spot.
    You are 2 mins from being permabanned from XS for that statement!
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    One of you emailled me this ... http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewto...136390#p136390
    I am getting famous on AMDZone ... I actually like their compliments
    lovely gentleman ...

    Wait to see Nehalem properly programmed, leaked CPUs are not "ready".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    One of you emailled me this ... http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewto...136390#p136390
    I am getting famous on AMDZone ... I actually like their compliments
    lovely gentleman ...

    Wait to see Nehalem properly programmed, leaked CPUs are not "ready".

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    Your utube link was to a boxing match..
    As to the comments at AMDZone, do we listen to the whining of nonbeleivers?
    The Kentsfields surpassed expectations, and so did the Yorkfields.
    I just got a harpertown rig up and running and no complaints from me on what it is doing at stock voltages at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    Your utube link was to a boxing match..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post


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    Good one though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mstp2009 View Post
    I can confirm the CPUs are effectively done. They could be rolled out in under 1 month if Intel wanted to.

    The X58 chipset and getting mobos for them are the biggest issue.
    So i'm guessing that it will launch after like the 6th stepping?

    Core 2 launched around stepping 6 and i think Penryn was close.

    How's the DP Nehalem doing? Word has it that it's been delayed until 2009?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstp2009 View Post
    BTW, I'm staring at a couple Bloomfields, but no boards to run em.
    Better than nothin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuji View Post
    How's the DP Nehalem doing?
    Better than Nehalem desktop
    ===N/A===

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    I don't think I've ever wanted a 'fast forward' button for real life since I was a kid, but this thing makes me want one again.


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    wow running fast, looking good JC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    One of you emailled me this ... http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewto...136390#p136390
    I am getting famous on AMDZone ... I actually like their compliments
    lovely gentleman ...

    Wait to see Nehalem properly programmed, leaked CPUs are not "ready".

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    It's quite alright. Those gentleman are rather...dilusional.
    I'm sure if someone got them to try a Nehalem, they'd buy it on the spot

    edit: Dear god, that thread is terrible. It's like a rational person's worst nightmare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan View Post
    It's quite alright. Those gentleman are rather...dilusional.
    I'm sure if someone got them to try a Nehalem, they'd buy it on the spot

    edit: Dear god, that thread is terrible. It's like a rational person's worst nightmare.
    its amdzone... what did you expect, its the hardest core of amd fanboys.

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    My favourite is how 45nm K10s are supposed to get 15-20% IPC, while they say Nehalem is basicly nothing. Its a rerun of the barcelona launch and the core 2. I´m amazed they havent claimed the Nehalem systems are stolen shanghais
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    My favourite is how 45nm K10s are supposed to get 15-20% IPC, while they say Nehalem is basicly nothing. Its a rerun of the barcelona launch and the core 2. I´m amazed they havent claimed the Nehalem systems are stolen shanghais
    I went and looked at the original Conroe first benchmarks on Techreport.. And man, the comments were filled with that exact kind of nonsense you see in that thread. The rigs were locked for viewing, so they were probably really running DP Opterons in there.

    I was thinking the same thing. I have a feeling Intel "secretly" set this up.
    Also I am not buying that Anand just walked up and grabbed two to benchmark, this for me is an obvious Intel ploy and Anand is being used a a tool (willingly). If Intel didn't sanction this, then Intels lawyers would be on Anand so fast it would be laughable.
    It's like AMD processors come with free tin foil hats in the package. It almost makes me ashamed to own AMDs.

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    I really, really wanted to quote some AMD guys because they are so hilarious, but unfortunately they deliver in every thread. I could not decide which one to quote. Really, thank you for the laughs.

    Movieman give him those damn motherboards already, before he actually decides to go with the necklace-idea.

    Though, they are right to some extent when it comes to single-threaded performance, we do not really know much about nehalem's performance, so it'd be nice if you could run more single-threaded benches...
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    Do not worry about single threaded performance, it is better than Penryn... I can t say more yet ... but 8M L3 with the best prefetcher ever, this rocks.
    since we are here, let s give you some new vocabulary...

    We call:
    L3 is LLC (Last Level Cache)
    L2 is MLC (Middle Level Cache)
    L1 is FLC (first Level Cache)

    Get use to those terminologies, they will be soon everywhere.

    I ll add more over time.

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    Is it like Phenom, does each core have its own multiplier that we can change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowman View Post
    Is it like Phenom, does each core have its own multiplier that we can change?



    since we are here, let s give you some new vocabulary...

    We call:
    L3 is LLC (Last Level Cache)
    L2 is MLC (Middle Level Cache)
    L1 is FLC (first Level Cache)
    well, it is like Itanium ... This is the like this for 10 years at Intel
    or think about the 1st Pentium 4 Extreme Edition ... it was already using this names internally. Now that it is going main stream, we will push for it externally.

    if you listen to AMD, they invented the wheel ... did they?

    1st x86 processor with Memory controler on dice: 386SX .... hummmm hummmm

    We are not going to have the issues that Phenom has with its fixed ratios ... (They invented fixed ratio???? )
    It was designed to scale from Laptop to server, in every dimension , cache size, number of cores, memory type, so, i let you guess why there are no issue ...
    remember, I can't speak much yet.
    but everything you need will be there


    Just kidding, ok?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    well, it is like Itanium ... This is the like this for 10 years at Intel

    We are not going to have the issues that Phenom has with its fixed ratios ...
    It was designed to scale from Laptop to server, in every dimension , cache size, number of cores, memory type, so, i let you guess why there are no issue ...
    remember, I can't speak much yet.
    but everything you need will be there

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    I didn't mean 'is it like Phenom' as in 'will it be disappointing and slow', I was just referring specifically to the feature where Phenom owners can go and change each core's individual multiplier and run them at different frequencies. Maybe I'm a sucker for gadgets but I think that's pretty cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowman View Post
    I didn't mean 'is it like Phenom' as in 'will it be disappointing and slow', I was just referring specifically to the feature where Phenom owners can go and change each core's individual multiplier and run them at different frequencies. Maybe I'm a sucker for gadgets but I think that's pretty cool.
    now, think about the concequences of allowing the change of frequency under windows ... a "bad" hacker can find it funny to modify the multipliers to 200x ... what happen then ... The best Virus ever?

    That is a cool but deadly feature

    Just some of my personal thinking ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    now, think about the concequences of allowing the change of frequency under windows ... a "bad" hacker can find it funny to modify the multipliers to 200x ... what happen then ... The best Virus ever?

    That is a cool but deadly feature

    Just some of my personal thinking ...

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    Please tell me that you were kidding,right?

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    nop!
    You can t compromise the safety of a platform for the good of the OC community... Make sense, no?

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