Nvidia GTX280/260 and 9800GTX/+ 177.39 Beta Driver with PhysX-Support

[fragmasterMax]

Do the original physx games support this?
I'm talking about graw, etc, i wonder what kind of fps imprvements we can expect, if any.
Here is a free ageia physx game, lets hope nvidia got the coding right.

My g92 gts was dropped off earlier today, i'll update, and test later on

[wyemarn]

any modded inf for 177.39 vista32? Looks like I'll be needing one to test this one...

9800GTX main + 8800GT

@wyemarn

I can't see the select GPU for Geforce PhysX tab.

I'm sorry I cant help much because I have only 1 GPU. I copied the documentation from Nvidia. Its under PhysX Properties, Help, Document.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Link for UT3 modpack: http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/856/mirrors.php

About the plugins for Rivatuner, choose hardware monitoring, click Setup (lower right corner), and click on the "v" in order to make the *.dll plugs available on hardware monitoring main page

I ran it w/o monitoring anything. Its jumpy. I see what you are talking about. I can see it. I'll play around with the monitoring stuff later. You are correct.

[fireice2]

has anyone here tried the physics driver with 2 GPUs?

[Lestat]

IIRC G80/G92 are much faster than the original Ageia PPU.

they arent faster when its not using the GPU. which is my point of asking if anyone with an 8800 GTX is able to make it work.

with the Ageia card disabled its using CPU because, well, as far as i know the 8800 GTX isnt working

unless my score of 13000K cpu points is normal for my rig (specs are in my sig)

[dinos22]

lestat
i looked at other ppls runs and your score is not normal
that is your physx card contributing to the clocks
also you will notice that GPU does not take a hit when you see ppl posting before and after shots

[Warboy]

they arent faster when its not using the GPU. which is my point of asking if anyone with an 8800 GTX is able to make it work.

with the Ageia card disabled its using CPU because, well, as far as i know the 8800 GTX isnt working

unless my score of 13000K cpu points is normal for my rig (specs are in my sig)

Find my first post in this thread and you have your answer if it works with a 8800GTX.

[Lestat]

Dinos,,, interested because i disabled the Ageia card in device manager and lost 2000 points, and then reenabled it and gained the 2000 back...

its obviously using the card still at some level..

now this was with Vista64 i cant make Vista32 install the drivers because i chose to deny the install once so now it wont ever install.

so we wont know the truth of the Ageia vs 8800 GTX until nvidia releases working drivers for the 8800 cards (non G92)

i have an 8800 GT in another rig but its XP so Vantage is a no go,, (stupid Futuremark)

warboy - i know the GTX isnt supported by the drivers officially but it wouldnt be the first driver that would make something work w/ a modded inf...

[dinos22]

i don't think nvidia planned to open physx to anything other than new models otherwise we wouldn't have to mod .inf files you know what i mean

i think the reason why G92 and later work is probably because they may have ported it through newer version of CUDA but dont quote me on this as i'm not too sure

[Sr7]

i don't think nvidia planned to open physx to anything other than new models otherwise we wouldn't have to mod .inf files you know what i mean

i think the reason why G92 and later work is probably because they may have ported it through newer version of CUDA but dont quote me on this as i'm not too sure

They did plan to have it work, but just like with drivers, these things take a lot of time to properly QA and pass certifications.

A lot of times when new cards are being released, they need to either just QA on those new cards to get them out the door, then followup with a normal driver for all cards, or delay the launch until they've QA'd everything.

So the point is they test the bare minimum of cards (new ones) to get them out the door and followup with more later.

Do you really think they're going permanently to leave the ability of a card to run PhysX or not up to an .inf entry?

[dinos22]

fair enough
that's what they were saying during editor's day but i am just thinking why not at least open up the driver to G92 as it clearly already works in this first release you know what i mean

i guess i should have asked about that in hindsight

[adamsleath]

Quote:
Originally Posted by kellygtp View Post
Does anyone have a copy of thier modded INF for a 8800GT G92
See my post above. Extract the driver files[from the .exe driver file] in a folder and open up the inf file in notepad (for the XP drivers it's nv4_disp.inf). Search for all instances of 0612[there are about 3...use search in notepad]
and replace them with 0611. Save the file, and install the driver. Works like a charm for 8800GT.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=5678432
i got 177.39 to install, then dubble click on 8.06.12 nvidia physx installable file...->demo's function from nvidia physx control panel
8800gt XP

i guess for gtx, you would just change the 0612 to wotever your inf shows the gtx to be.

[Kai Robinson]

This doesn't work on x64 systems, does it? I downloaded it and installed it.....but theres no start menu entry, nothing in control panel...what gives?

[Cold Storm]

I just wanted to let you guys know. I decided to go and try the Physx driver on my 9800gx2... I'm running the modded 177.34 Nvidia Drivers, and It works sweet without going with the 177.39 drivers.

Without Physx...


With Physx



I hope this can help other users that have the Nvidia card!

[Lestat]

i don't think nvidia planned to open physx to anything other than new models otherwise we wouldn't have to mod .inf files you know what i mean

i think the reason why G92 and later work is probably because they may have ported it through newer version of CUDA but dont quote me on this as i'm not too sure

actually the entire 8800 series was planned from the start.
it was started when they released the cards that they would eventually migrate the physics to the 8800 cards and eliminate the Ageia cards.

i think the 8800 cards are just not as native to physics as the 9800 or G2X series.

[Lestat]

This doesn't work on x64 systems, does it? I downloaded it and installed it.....but theres no start menu entry, nothing in control panel...what gives?

you actually have to install the physics drivers that are on the front page dude
but one of the other guys (with the towlie avatar) was having issues with 64bit also so i cant say for sure)

[Malik]

Please smoeone - tell me how to mod this 177.39 drivers - for 9800gtx

[Kai Robinson]

I have the 177.35's installed....do i really NEED the 177.39's for PhysX to work?

[Luka_Aveiro]

(with the towlie avatar)

Wanna get high?

The only problem I had was with Unreal Tournament 3 Physx maps, after playing a bit, memory usage was insane.

Check it here

Either way, I hope this is solved with a future UE3 patch or a new physx driver

I am using Vista X64, and everything is ok, except that

Oh, kai, you better check your x64 driver source, you might have downloaded a corrupt self-extractor

[lowfat]

I have the 177.35's installed....do i really NEED the 177.39's for PhysX to work?

no, 177.35's work.

[dinos22]

actually the entire 8800 series was planned from the start.
it was started when they released the cards that they would eventually migrate the physics to the 8800 cards and eliminate the Ageia cards.

i think the 8800 cards are just not as native to physics as the 9800 or G2X series.

LOL what the hell does that mean

[Luka_Aveiro]

LOL what the hell does that mean

Probably he is confuse

Physx runs on the GPU through CUDA (Compute Unified Device Architecture), CUDA is on the paper since G80.

G80 can run Physx because it can run CUDA, just as simple as that

[JohnZS]

Adding a conspiracy theory to the mix...perhaps the G92 has some "magic" in the core which means the Physics support is better than the G80?!?! perhaps even less of a performance hit
John

[Luka_Aveiro]

Adding a conspiracy theory to the mix...perhaps the G92 has some "magic" in the core which means the Physics support is better than the G80?!?! perhaps even less of a performance hit
John

Don't think so, I think they firstly sent G92 support because userbase is larger.

I managed to install Infernal, it uses Ageia PhysX engine, and I think it is working

I will have to uninstall the PhysX driver to confirm, so stay tuned

Edit: I unninstalled PhysX by nVidia and installed PhysX Ageia included with the game, tested one, then other, and I think none of them is giving me the same game experience that i could have if i had an Ageia PPU.

I suppose PhysX will just be from now on

[Lestat]

LOL what the hell does that mean

come on brutha you know what i mean lol

i simply meant that when the 8800 cards were released they stated back then that they would support physX natively.

but i think they really exploded with the 9000 series and the 2xx series so it supports it even further.

so thats why i said i dont think its as deep of a native support as the other cards.
it supports it but not as well ?? or not as efficiently (there that last one is better)

Probably he is confuse

Physx runs on the GPU through CUDA (Compute Unified Device Architecture), CUDA is on the paper since G80.

G80 can run Physx because it can run CUDA, just as simple as that

no im not confused, your just too high... :P

think back when the 8xxx cards were released, they said back then they would eventually make the 8xxx cards support physX on die..

please dont tell me you forgot that already guys, that was one of the reasons i was happy to buy my GTX