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    Quote Originally Posted by jas420221 View Post
    Impressed by a card that trades punches with a 9800gtx...a card that will be $199 very shortly with the supposed release of the 9800gtx+ for $230 that should beat it out consistently... What am I missing here? (seriously)
    Find me an 8800 Ultra for $199

    jas, you saw the official reviews and said Shoot !! Dang !!" as did the rest of us. Please learn to accept the feeling

    And attempts to say the it is slower than the 8800GT fall flat when it ends up faster than the 8800GTX and the 8800 Ultra, unless you believe an 8800GT is faster than an 8800 Ultra.

    Nvidia will have its day with the $229 (not $199) 9800GTX+. Wait for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam View Post
    Find me an 8800 Ultra for $199

    jas, you saw the official reviews and said " !! Dang !!" as did the rest of us. Please learn to accept the feeling

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    Funny, I didnt mention an Ultra...

    As I see more and more reviews coming out my level of acceptance for what this card is, I have to admit, is dropping. Especially considering the 9800GTX is dropping to $199 with the 9800GTX+ coming it at $230.

    **please note I put in bold the EXACT card I am talking about so one cannot misconstrue my post**

    EDIT TO YOUR NINJA EDIT: When did I mention the 8800gt? Am I in bizarro world now???

    Quote Originally Posted by zerazax View Post
    THe card is impressive because for 110W, you have a card that consistently beats the 9800GTX in most games especially with AA and AF turned on, that scales much better than the 9800GTX (its more on par with the 8800Ultra), and can even match the GTX260 at some settings in some games. And two of them matches a GTX280 at 2/3 the price. Thats why people are impressed.

    The 9800GTX is longer, requires 2 x 6pin cables, and requires a nForce chipset for SLI, which a lot of people refuse to do.

    The 4870 if it performs 25% faster might even start trading blows with the GTX280 at higher settings and will certainly trounce the 9800GTX+ easily.
    http://www.hardware.fr/articles/724-...n-hd-4850.html

    ^^ Consistently my arse!!! ^^

    It seems (finally) that ATI has improved the loss from AA..thats good news as they were get slapped around in that area.

    Regarding power and such...PERSONALLY (this is me only) I dont care about performance per watt, or the fact that a midrange card only uses 110W. I only care about performance and performance /dollar. Which WHEN/IF the 9800gtx comes down to $199, this will be a tough decision to make for some. And to pay an extra $20 for *supposed* better performance is not a bad thing TO ME.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jas420221 View Post
    Funny, I didnt mention an Ultra...

    As I see more and more reviews coming out my level of acceptance for what this card is, I have to admit, is dropping. Especially considering the 9800GTX is dropping to $199 with the 9800GTX+ coming it at $230.

    **please note I put in bold the EXACT card I am talking about so one cannot misconstrue my post**

    EDIT TO YOUR NINJA EDIT: When did I mention the 8800gt? Am I in bizarro world now???

    http://www.hardware.fr/articles/724-...n-hd-4850.html

    ^^ Consistently my arse!!! ^^

    It seems (finally) that ATI has improved the loss from AA..thats good news as they were get slapped around in that area.

    Regarding power and such...PERSONALLY (this is me only) I dont care about performance per watt, or the fact that a midrange card only uses 110W. I only care about performance.
    The 4850 beats an 8800 Ultra An Ultra is NOT $199 That, therefore, is impressive

    Wouldn't you agree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam View Post
    The 4850 beats an 8800 Ultra An Ultra is NOT $199 That, therefore, is impressive

    Wouldn't you agree?

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    If only beating an ultra wasnt an obvious anomoly, or if it did it consistently, I would agree. But since it doesnt in the reviews I have read, I wont agree. Did you look at the link I provided? (PS- I cant see your ONE picture at work, that site is blocked by our spam filter)

    And again, Im not sure what the Ultra has to do with anything here. Stop it already!

    You are trying to compare a "turbocharged and NOS Civic to a Lambo" How about trying to compare the same cards I am (and frankly that it competes with) instead of trying to prove a point that nobody is trying to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jas420221 View Post
    If only beating an ultra wasnt an obvious anomoly, or if it did it consistently, I would agree. But since it doesnt in the reviews I have read, I wont agree. Did you look at the link I provided? (PS- I cant see your ONE picture at work, that site is blocked by our spam filter)

    And again, Im not sure what the Ultra has to do with anything here. Stop it already!

    You are trying to compare a "turbocharged and NOS Civic to a Lambo" How about trying to compare the same cards I am (and frankly that it competes with) instead of trying to prove a point that nobody is trying to make.
    When a mouse kills a giant, people take notice.

    Come on jas, you can do it. You can admit the 4850 scores are impressive, come on now

    Here, I'll quote Tech Report for you:

    Quote Originally Posted by TechReport
    What remains now is for us poor slobs in the press to get the products tested and to publish our findings as soon as we reasonably can. One wonders whether all of this fuss is worth it, especially on Nvidia's part. It really may not matter. The Radeon HD 4850 kicks more ass than a pair of donkeys in an MMA cage match.
    My point was, people are impressed, even the people who tested these cards with all of Nvidia's offerings. Admitting the achievements of the both companies is what differentiates fanboys from fans

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    Quote Originally Posted by jas420221 View Post
    If only beating an ultra wasnt an obvious anomoly, or if it did it consistently, I would agree. But since it doesnt in the reviews I have read, I wont agree. Did you look at the link I provided? (PS- I cant see your ONE picture at work, that site is blocked by our spam filter)

    And again, Im not sure what the Ultra has to do with anything here. Stop it already!

    You are trying to compare a "turbocharged and NOS Civic to a Lambo" How about trying to compare the same cards I am (and frankly that it competes with) instead of trying to prove a point that nobody is trying to make.
    fact is that the 4850 beats the 8 and 9 series (not GX2) at high res gaming, and there isn't even a 4870 or 4870X2 out there.

    accept it, the crown is shifting over and over again and this time amd is going to have the crown for a longer time than with the 3870X2, right now it doesn'T have it but for the price you can easily build sli rigs which equal or beat the gtx 260 at a lower price
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