**Official DFI LanParty UT X48-T2R(and LT) Discussion

[zsamz_]

very nice praz
hey praz in your opinion which board do you like better for max crasy clocks, the p35 ut t2r or the x48 t2r?

ut p35

[zsamz_]

What is the maximum FSB with dual core support in this motherboard?
It's possible 555MHz in the bus ?

i did 555fsb on my first one
on new one i maxed out @ 541fsb
the board does not like 535++ its not made for high fsb
you want high fsb better off with p35 or p45

[Isaac MM]

Hey guys i'm about to buy the lt x48-t2r, from your results with this board do you think it is the best at that price range? i mean there are quite a few x48 ddr2 mobos at about the same price

[zsamz_]

Hey guys i'm about to buy the lt x48-t2r, from your results with this board do you think it is the best at that price range? i mean there are quite a few x48 ddr2 mobos at about the same price

either ut p35 ot lt ut x48 you wont find a better board
i myself prefer the ut p35

[snipper_cr]

Whew... 60 Pages is a lot to read! Mind you, after the first 15-20 pages, I started skimming a bit more as most was just about different overclocking/tweaking settings... which will be more important for me later on down the road.

Hi! I've actually been a member here for sometime, but havent posted (or logged in!) for sometime. In fact, my last visit was 12-06-2006! I've been on the same system since, and it being an oldy, havent had much to post about it. However, I am thinking its time to start looking at a new system.

After much looking, the LT T2R (X48, DDR2 and non-heat pipe) is looking like the board for me! Now I've used DFI products before (LP Pro875B...old!) and thought they boards were great. However, my experience with cust/tech support frustrated me SO much over many months that I swore off DFI and went with ASUS (P4c800EDLX). Yet this time around, I am not liking the looks of Asus and DFI is looking better.

After reading the posts here, and Clunk's awesome review (congrads!) I really think this board will be great but still have a few questions.

I'd like to use a Quad Core, Q9450 - not an Extreme edition. Initially I will not be doing much (or any) overclocking. However, after I regain the loss of buy this board, I will eventually move to water cooling (water cooled 95% of my computer building time) - mainly CPU and FETs and maybe NB. Posts have said the Q9450 has a pretty stiff wall yet reviews else where show it oveclocking pretty well. Any thoughts on this? (EDIT: What about unlocking multipliers? I always thought intel processor multipliers were locked up tight unless you got ES or EEs. That still true cause I've seen a lot of unlocked processor pics around).

Im up in the air about using either an HD 3870 or an HD 3870X2. Ive read there is a problem and there was a link to another forum but couldn't find what the cause/solution was. Any thoughts on this one?

Thanks all! Hopefully these questions are okay to post here (should I've made a new thread instead)?

One quick thing... this may seem wrong coming from a person new to this technology but back in the day I was big in oveclocking and stressing.
I am a little disturbed by people calling their system "Stable" and posting screenies with Prime95 after only 4-5 hours. I never call a system stable unless it has ran Prime95 for 24 hours the right way (9-10 priority with screen savers and all other apps closed). I've oveclocked systems that run prime95 for 4-5 hours yet show errors around hour 18 or 19. Yet if it runs 24 hours... It will run forever (tested up to 56 hours).
I'm not trying to come in an start being all high and mighty but just from my years of overclocking (Socket 370 and 478...long time) that's how we dealt with it. Just my 2 cents. Sorry this got off topic!

[Praz]

praz: - nice results with 4gb.and vantage. my score was alot lower than that , i wont post it since its fairly misserable lol
just wondering if u tried tighter settings with ram and what happend . also do u think theres any benifit to setting tref higher ? with either latency or stability? i have mine on 16383T but didnt notice a difference . not sure what its function is exactly.

The only thing I tried tighter was tRD. There is no problem running a straight tRd of 7 with a slight bump in NB voltage. As the only way to set tREF is with MemSet I haven't messed with it. I think the bottom portion of this post explains why that is.

very nice praz
hey praz in your opinion which board do you like better for max crasy clocks, the p35 ut t2r or the x48 t2r?

For max FSB as has already been posted the P35 for sure.

I'd like to use a Quad Core, Q9450 - not an Extreme edition. Initially I will not be doing much (or any) overclocking. However, after I regain the loss of buy this board, I will eventually move to water cooling (water cooled 95% of my computer building time) - mainly CPU and FETs and maybe NB. Posts have said the Q9450 has a pretty stiff wall yet reviews else where show it oveclocking pretty well. Any thoughts on this? (EDIT: What about unlocking multipliers? I always thought intel processor multipliers were locked up tight unless you got ES or EEs. That still true cause I've seen a lot of unlocked processor pics around).

Im up in the air about using either an HD 3870 or an HD 3870X2. Ive read there is a problem and there was a link to another forum but couldn't find what the cause/solution was. Any thoughts on this one?

One quick thing... this may seem wrong coming from a person new to this technology but back in the day I was big in oveclocking and stressing.
I am a little disturbed by people calling their system "Stable" and posting screenies with Prime95 after only 4-5 hours. I never call a system stable unless it has ran Prime95 for 24 hours the right way (9-10 priority with screen savers and all other apps closed). I've oveclocked systems that run prime95 for 4-5 hours yet show errors around hour 18 or 19. Yet if it runs 24 hours... It will run forever (tested up to 56 hours).
I'm not trying to come in an start being all high and mighty but just from my years of overclocking (Socket 370 and 478...long time) that's how we dealt with it. Just my 2 cents. Sorry this got off topic!

Any non-Extreme 45nm quad a person can expect 3.2 out of it. 3.4 if they are lucky enough to get a really good one regardless what review sites would have one believe. If speeds faster then this is expected out of these processors then it's time to pony up a grand for the QX.

Although 3870 cards work fine at this time there is a compatibility issue with the X2 version

As 4 to 5 hours of Prime comprises most of my screenshots I'll assume the last bit was directed at least partially at me. Have to remember we are no longer dealing with yesterday's AMD processors. In the here and now extended runs of Prime mean very little. There are plenty of users that will tell you that 24, 48 or however many hours of Prime run successfully doesn't count towards much when the first app or game you launch crashes before it even finishes loading. You can be sure that 10 loops of Crysis, rendering in 3dMax or the full 1 1/2 hour run of PCMark Vantage tells more of system stability then countless hours of Prime.

Most of the screenshots I post here are done so as secondary. The main purpose of them are to be used as a starting point for users that are having difficulties with the board on another forum. I have never once stated they would be 100% stable for someone else but rather as a point to work from. That is also the reason most of my settings are never maxed out. Would be of no benefit to a user to post settings that were on the ragged edge.

Are there other benchmarks I'd like to run or maybe allocate more time for? Sure but as I work with more boards in a week then most users do in a year that is not something practical or possible.

[zsamz_]

nicely put praz
i myself test stability with games lol crysis is a verry good test

[snipper_cr]

Praz you are just as helpful and knowledgable to me as you were to everyone else in this thread! Thanks alot for the input.

3.2-3.4 sounds great in my opinion! An overclock like that would be wonderful since right now I am not looking at much - this system will blow anything I have now out of the water so whats a few extra cycles going to do?
What type of memory would go well with the system? I have always used OCZ memory but notice few people here are using that. Should I get DDR666 or DDR800? If my memory works properly, DDR should be twice the external clock or half the FSB (since the FSB is quad pumped)... under that assumption DDR666 would make sense because the 9450 has a 1333 fsb, right?

Is there any fix for the 3870X2 or should I just get 2 3870s and use cross fire? This board support PCIe2.0 x16 in cross fire (and doesnt revert to x8), am I right?

And praz, no! My comment about prime95 24 hour stable WASNT at you, just something I am noticing across various other boards. You bring up an interesting point about the current relavence of prime95 stability versus other applications. "Back in my day" we often practiced if it was not 24 hours prime95 stable, then the system is not stable. If you are just trying to get a benchmark, then needing 24 hour stable isnt that important.
But if you want it to be stable for normal use, isnt it a good practice to use 24 hour check? The reason I ask is, say you are watching some HDTV, burning a DVD, rendering your latest 3D image and encoding your latest movie you "Acquired" from the internet... all those applications running will sure to push all cores to 100%. If it threw an error in P95, isnt it safe to assume it will do so here? Thats why, in my opinion, it seems important to run for 24 hours to check for complete stability.
Thats just how I do it but, as you said, this isnt the old AMD days!
Once again, thanks for the reply!

[danmoody]

i want to get some good memory for this board what would be the best 2x2gig kit i was looking at these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166
what do you guys think?

[cowie]

thanks praz+zsamz
just ordered another dfi p35 ut i like them alot.

@@danmoody
i'v had the same set for two weeks on my ut p35 there ok but pita to o/c sometimes so i use them for gaming only not benching.

[zsamz_]

i want to get some good memory for this board what would be the best 2x2gig kit i was looking at these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166
what do you guys think?

get the 2x2 domintors same price this week

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145197

[zfactor]

^^^ if you ever get the rebate ive been waiting FOREVER now..

[zanzabar]

^^^ if you ever get the rebate ive been waiting FOREVER now..

yah corsair takes the full 3 months to get it to u but i always get them back

but the dominators arnt better they are 6layer powerchips R bin just like the gskill 1000

[zsamz_]

yah corsair takes the full 3 months to get it to u but i always get them back

but the dominators arnt better they are 6layer powerchips R bin just like the gskill 1000

damn didnt think they started binnin dominators that bad
i got some redline commin
mushkin binning the new accent series @ pc2-8000 n pc2-8500

[zanzabar]

damn didnt think they started binnin dominators that bad
i got some redline commin
mushkin binning the new accent series @ pc2-8000 n pc2-8500

power chips R are the top, they are rated for 1200mhz cas6 or cas5 with single sticks if im not mistaken and are in nearly everything even the red line (but internal binning puts dominators higher than the gskill 1000 and up with the gskill 1066 but those are 8 layer and the pi line is 8 layer)


and they ripped u off, gkx sells for like $150 a 2x1gb or did u kill them, or were u helping some1 out and they are out of production from micron so that cant hurt the price

[zsamz_]

power chips R are the top, they are rated for 1200mhz cas6 or cas5 with single sticks if im not mistaken and are in nearly everything even the red line (but internal binning puts dominators higher than the gskill 1000 and up with the gskill 1066 but those are 8 layer and the pi line is 8 layer)


and they ripped u off, gkx sells for like $150 a 2x1gb or did u kill them, or were u helping some1 out and they are out of production from micron so that cant hurt the price

the last set were deffective from day 1 gave me 1 error per pass anything above 830mhz
4th rma on the mushkins was gettin tired of it n 3+ weeks of just waiting to even get something shipped back is ridiculous
only 1 outa my 4 mushkins were d9gkx
them redlines better be good lol hope they were not binned too low
i seen many sets hit 1100+ they should be good for surfin + daily tasks
i bought a set of 2x1gkx for 70$ and a set of 2x512 for 8$ so ... lol both my dfi boards dont wanna clock them too high so i run em cas3
funny how from all my d9 only my mushkins kept on dyin lol n my gigabut boards killed em all

[SXS]

Been playing with this board for the past few days, its AWESOME! Still cant get over how well it clocks and nicely it plays when it doesnt like a clock.

For those that havent figured it out yet:

Hold down rest button for 2 seconds - then keep the reset button pressed whilst pressing down the reset button too, hold both buttons down for about 4 seconds and then let go of the power button first, then the reset button. Thats the way I do it, and it always goes back to default settings and boots up and then I restore one of the configs from the 4-banks storage space in the bios. SWEET AS!

Ok, I've managed to clock this thing to 4ghz on a Q6600G0, but thats taking my cpu to the limits and its unstable as f***.

So a reasonable clock, 24/7 stability required (do a lot of video compression etc work), and also good on the temps. Found a sweet-spot at 3.7ghz.

As we all know, 4 x 2GB sticks of RAM pushes the x48 to its knees in comparison to 2x1GB sticks mega-overclocking... so I'm pretty chuffed I've achieve this level of clock at exceptional temps and lovely stability. DFI you are the nuts! (I'm still waiting for a vamped up better looking version of SmartGuardian!)

Ok, enough with the words, heres a screenshot of it all.



I'll bang up my bios settings if anyone wants them too...

[safan80]

SXS I think your VTT could be lowered. I think even mine (VTT) is a little high. here's a run of superpi at my OC of 4Ghz ram is 1:1.

[SXS]

SXS I think your VTT could be lowered. I think even mine (VTT) is a little high. here's a run of superpi at my OC of 4Ghz ram is 1:1.

4ghz!!! with 8GB!!!! thats an awesome clock safan, is that running Prime stable?

Ok I'll try and bring the VTT down...

I'm running the 65nm quad, is the 45nm quad really that much better an overclocker??? Sounds sweet!

You got a picture of your install? as in inside PC case?

[safan80]

4ghz!!! with 8GB!!!! thats an awesome clock safan, is that running Prime stable?

Ok I'll try and bring the VTT down...

I'm running the 65nm quad, is the 45nm quad really that much better an overclocker??? Sounds sweet!

You got a picture of your install? as in inside PC case?

yes it's prime stable. I had the chip running at 4.4Ghz in a different board a while back but the heat dump cooked my room, so 4Ghz it is. As for my case it's a hacked up P180. I haven't changed the loop config at all just the motherboard a few times and the graphics card. here's a pic of the case when I made the loop. it's the same exact loop but with dirty tubing I'll take more pictures when I either install a GTX 280 with water or add the waterblock I got for my 9800gx2.

[Sem]

anyone know if the enzotech CNB R1 will work on the NB with this board

if not what over options do i have if i want to mount the TRUE so it exhausts out the back

i cant use the HR-05 SLI

[eva2000]

anyone know if the enzotech CNB R1 will work on the NB with this board

if not what over options do i have if i want to mount the TRUE so it exhausts out the back

i cant use the HR-05 SLI

enzotech lists 53.5mm diameter support, which might just not make it if you have the DFI UT X48-T3RS which has ~55mm diameter NB holes.. not sure if it's same as my UT X48-T2R (haven't measured it yet).

I opted for HR-05 instead

[safan80]

enzotech lists 53.5mm diameter support, which might just not make it if you have the DFI UT X48-T3RS which has ~55mm diameter NB holes.. not sure if it's same as my UT X48-T2R (haven't measured it yet).

I opted for HR-05 instead

wow they use real screws on their heatpipe! I'm shocked

[zanzabar]

they need to make that pwm sink a stand alone product

[ACE76]

I can't get 4gb (2x2gb) to work at all on the x48 lt board. I am not even overclocking..all stock settings and during my windows install, my PC keeps on freezing. I tried both green and yellow slots and still same problem...any help guys? I tried the Corsair 4gb kit and now the G.Skill...same problem.

Only settings I set were 5-5-5-15 and vdimm to 2.10 and tried to run the memory with 333 strap and memory running at 1066 default speeds.