I don't know why so many people are whining and biatching about how Phenom
this and Phenom that. Take a 6400+ Athlon for example , you set it to
3.6 ghz (max for most) and they're go to heaven, it's a freaking dream come true, than the same people would take the 9850 and get it up 3.0ghz (average)
and that's not enough they need more.
In the first case the OC is 400mhz, in the second 500mhz ,where is the freaking problem here?

Another example:
I have a 939 Toledo 4400+ at work, the price was about 300 CAD at the time.
That CPU will not go over 2.50 no matter what.
I also have a 165 Opteron, which is basically the same chip with 2 "minor"
differences: The price was 115 CAD and it over clocks to 3.00ghz with less than stock volts, the point being give AMD some time the same Phenoms in a year or so would be just like that Opty was in comparison to the Toledo.