Anandtech benches Nehalem

[duploxxx]

clock for clock Nehalem is going to be huge

what I took issue with was the statement that this ES was faster than any Penryn today.

Quick example:

Nehalem result vs. stock qx9770 result (with terrible RAM settings)

this is not a clock/clock comparison.

let them shut down SMT and see if it is clock/clock faster and for cinebench with a mem controller it doesn't matter how good or bad the settings are it is cache related where nehalem puts a nice score.

[gallag]

this is not a clock/clock comparison.

let them shut down SMT and see if it is clock/clock faster and for cinebench with a mem controller it doesn't matter how good or bad the settings are it is cache related where nehalem puts a nice score.

Hurting? 2.66 VS 2.66 is not clock for clock?

[duploxxx]

Hurting? 2.66 VS 2.66 is not clock for clock?

4 physical against 4 physical + 4 virtual in benches where smt is actually working....

thx but i prefer real world unless proven that this time SMT is actually good for daily use.

[bowman]

4 physical against 4 physical + 4 virtual in benches where smt is actually working....

thx but i prefer real world unless proven that this time SMT is actually good for daily use.

Hyperthreading was less useful back then when every desktop CPU was single core, nearly all apps were written for that, and the architecture was gimped to begin with..

This is a vastly improved Core 2 with SMT, and it'll debut in a market where even every single low to mid-end laptop and desktop PC has a dual core CPU.. So I'm thinking it'll see much more use.

[gallag]

4 physical against 4 physical + 4 virtual in benches where smt is actually working....

thx but i prefer real world unless proven that this time SMT is actually good for daily use.

Sorry man, I just don't see the point in not allowing advantages. Would you want to disable sse4 as well? I mean if they have put smt on there cpu's to make them faster then why b1tch about it?

[duploxxx]

Sorry man, I just don't see the point in not allowing advantages. Would you want to disable sse4 as well? I mean if they have put smt on there cpu's to make them faster then why b1tch about it?

what did you do? joined the IT world in 2006? in most cases you were better of shutting down hyperthreading performance wise... and in worst cases it was even mandatory unless you wanted locked databases.

Duploxxx is on stage one of the kübler-ross model

sure keep on posting.... and most of it keep on dreaming, i am confident that i will work on this new architecture before you can even pre-order them, hence in your case it will always be dreaming and posting.

[gallag]

what did you do? joined the IT world in 2006? in most cases you were better of shutting down hyperthreading performance wise... and in worst cases it was even mandatory unless you wanted locked databases.

I don't follow you, You said that it was not a clock for clock comparison and when asked for your reasons why, you went back it time to the pentium4 architecture. Whats up with that?

[ceevee]

If you do the Cinebench math based on my stock result then 2.66Ghz Nehalem = 2.91Ghz Penryn. If you do it based on Anand's result then 2.66Ghz Nehalem = 3.29Ghz Penryn. So maybe this is why he said it was faster than any stock Penryn?

However it begs the question what the hell kind of screwed up mess did he use to get those Penryn benchmarks. They are terrible but he obviously knows what he is doing, so I could only think he lowballed the Penryn results on purpose to make the story more sensational and dramatic.

[informal]

If you do the Cinebench math based on my stock result then 2.66Ghz Nehalem = 2.91Ghz Penryn. If you do it based on Anand's result then 2.66Ghz Nehalem = 3.29Ghz Penryn. So maybe this is why he said it was faster than any stock Penryn?

However it begs the question what the hell kind of screwed up mess did he use to get those Penryn benchmarks. They are terrible but he obviously knows what he is doing, so I could only think he lowballed the Penryn results on purpose to make the story more sensational and dramatic.

Hmm interesting point there.Could be the case,but we need to see the actual independent confirmation(or negation) with the retail production units.At least we now roughly see what kind of numbers Nehalem produces@2.66Ghz,so users with Penryn can compare and see for themselves,as you did.

[zaarath]

If you do the Cinebench math based on my stock result then 2.66Ghz Nehalem = 2.91Ghz Penryn. If you do it based on Anand's result then 2.66Ghz Nehalem = 3.29Ghz Penryn. So maybe this is why he said it was faster than any stock Penryn?

However it begs the question what the hell kind of screwed up mess did he use to get those Penryn benchmarks. They are terrible but he obviously knows what he is doing, so I could only think he lowballed the Penryn results on purpose to make the story more sensational and dramatic.

Your score is based on vista 64, Anand results are on vista 32, it is a known fact that Cinebench 10 runs faster under 64bit OS.