The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Grnfinger]

Looks like the P45 Maximus II

Is this DDR3 with dual bios and the auto raid0?

[MomijiTMO]

Yeah it's DDR3 and has the auto raid. Don't know about dual bios as I can't see the chips in the photos.

Just look at the PWM cooling. #__#

[OVERK|LL]

I think ASUS is going mental





Rampage Extreme good enough for you?

Holy mother of God! I wish they had had THAT at the ASUS conference this year!!!!!

[ZenEffect]

what is the little joystick thing? can i play pong in bios?

[MomijiTMO]

You see, that is just stupid. Yeah woopi I don't need a keyboard in my bios. I just move this tiny joystick and hit these tiny buttons. . . .. -snap- OH NOEZ I broke it.

[ZenEffect]

You see, that is just stupid. Yeah woopi I don't need a keyboard in my bios. I just move this tiny joystick and hit these tiny buttons. . . .. -snap- OH NOEZ I broke it.

track ball would be more durable... but then again, why would you go into bios w/o a keyboard present? set up your computer before your new kb and mouse arrive from newegg? all for bling and driving up the cost imo

[MomijiTMO]

I couldn't agree with you more.

[OVERK|LL]

track ball would be more durable... but then again, why would you go into bios w/o a keyboard present? set up your computer before your new kb and mouse arrive from newegg? all for bling and driving up the cost imo

It's for effect I think more than anything. Another "cool feature" that they are using to try and set themselves apart as the world's largest and most versatile motherboard manufacturer.

[chawks2]

This was an adventure to say the least, but I was finally able to get a "sub-respectable" _stable_ oc.

Definitely not as easy as my IP35-Pro. The machine did 450x9 stable on air without batting an eye. It took a lot of time to get here on the MRF, but I have to say I am quite pleased with my new creation.

EDIT

Forgot to mention this was 8G.

Maximus "Rampage" Bios v0403 Settings

Ai Overclock Tuner: [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up: [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control: [8]
FSB Frequency: [485]
FSB Strap to North Bridge: [333]
PCIE Frequency: [102]
DRAM Frequency: [971]
DRAM Command Rate: [2T]
DRAM Clock Skew Channel A:[Advance 300 ps]
DRAM Clock Skew Channel B:[Advance 300 ps]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
CAS# Latency: [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay: [5]
RAS# Precharge: [5]
RAS# Active Time: [15]
RAS# To Ras# Delay: [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time: [50]
Write Recovery Time: [6]
Read To Precharge Time: [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D): [8]
Write To Read Delay(S): [3]
Write To Read Delay(D): [5]
Read To Read Delay(S): [4]
Read To Read Delay(D): [6]
Write To Write Delay(S): [4]
Write To Write Delay(D): [6]
?:[14]
?:[5]
?:[1]
?:[6]
?:[6]
DRAM Static Read Control: [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister: [Stronger]
Transaction Booster: [Manual]
Common Performance Level: [9]
Pull-Ins-Disabled x 8

CPU Voltage: [1.47500v]
CPU PLL Voltage: [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage: [1.65v]
DRAM Voltage: [2.10v]
FSB Termination Voltage: [1.46v]
South Bridge Voltage: [1.100v]
SB 1.5:[1.5v]
Loadline Calibration: [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference: [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference: [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage: [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage: [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage: [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage: [Auto]
NB LED Selection: NB Volt
SB LED Selection: SB Volt
CPU LED Selection: CPU Volt
Voltimeter LED: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Maximus "Rampage" Bios v0403 Settings

SS:



The new P45 board is just ridiculous.

[Nuckin_Futs]

You see, that is just stupid. Yeah woopi I don't need a keyboard in my bios. I just move this tiny joystick and hit these tiny buttons. . . .. -snap- OH NOEZ I broke it.

track ball would be more durable... but then again, why would you go into bios w/o a keyboard present? set up your computer before your new kb and mouse arrive from newegg? all for bling and driving up the cost imo

I couldn't agree with you more.

Dee Dee Dee! Have we not heard of bench testing and set up, Old school, the way we have always done it. Why waste all that time mounting, wiring everything and getting all comfy if you still end up having to remove it for another "dee dee dee" or a double check, or just for the ease of trying different CPU's and or cooling blocks. I've had boards benching and working for almost a month before fitting intop a case.

[OVERK|LL]

Heh...see you didn't need my help at all you got it all figured out.

I'm suprised you were able to pull in all of the phases despite the low FSB, usually you only pull in one or two, if you pulled all of them in you bascially have changed the performance level to 4. If it's unstable for some reason go back and pull in less phases. Everyone keeps asking what the difference is between the Rampage and Formula BIOS and really you just played with it. Setting performance level directly without having to do the math of strap/transaction booster enable-disable/boost level in maximus and the abilty to adjust pull in directly.

Looking at you settings some other little tweaks to try are

Write Recovery Twr to 11 at least lower to 12
Read to Precharge Trtp to 4 maybe even 3
Write to Precharge Twtp to 11 at least lower to 12
Tref to 16383 should add a little more to your bandwidth

OK, I made these changes and the effects seemed to be minimal. As was mentioned by somebody else, I guess I can't change the Tref eh?

Damn

Anyways, since you said my pull-ins put me at PL4, I just turned them all off and put it at PL4. Passes memtest without issue. BUT, I adjust either the 1st pull-in for both channels to enabled, and she won't post, so it looks like I've found the limit.

Here's what the throughput looks like now:



And the settings look MOSTLY like this, with the exception that PL is now 4 and we have NEUTRAL as the value for Read Delay Phase Adjust, and that seems to be all it will take.

[scottath]

I think ASUS is going mental [from Bit-tech]

http://images.bit-tech.net/news_imag...eatures/1b.jpg
http://images.bit-tech.net/news_imag...rticle_img.jpg
http://images.bit-tech.net/news_imag...eatures/2b.jpg
Rampage Extreme good enough for you?

Who is going to be the first dare devil to flash their P5E/Maximus/Rampage to that monsters bios?

I love the board though - pitty i would have to cover it with my 2 HD3870's if i got it

[Krav]

Im getting BSOD in games and ive run memtest and getting errors test 2 test 4 and test 7 on seperate runnings of the test.

Is my ram screwed? I posted on OCZ support forum but admin says that this might not mean ram is bad?

I had system @ 3ghz from december to about a month or two ago and then upped it to 3.3ghz a month ago and the BSOD have been happening in the last couple of weeks. I went back to 3ghz and BSOD still happening as well as errors in memtest.

Any ideas?

[HDPC]

I'd recommend 308 and here are your settings for 3.6 GHZ:

Hi,

I installed the the RAMs last night, but I am not having any luck OCing. I follow your template but getting OC failing (Det Ram). I noticed there are a few things different than yours.

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# Activate Time : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to PRE Delay: AUTO <---- I have these as well (start here)
READ to Pre Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO <---- end here
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
C/P: A1 A2 | B1 B2 <---- Different than yours (Am I missing something?)
LVL: 04 05 | 04 05 <---- Different than yours (Am I missing something?)
Common Performance Level [7]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: Enabled <---- also different due to above setting
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Enabled
CPU Voltage : 1.4375 (or whatever you need for 3.6 stable)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.92
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Support : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled



Thanks

-hdpc

[theonlybabyface]

Hi,

I installed the the RAMs last night, but I am not having any luck OCing. I follow your template but getting OC failing (Det Ram). I noticed there are a few things different than yours.

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1080
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# Activate Time : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to Pre Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [8]
Pull-In's --> All Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.4375 (or whatever you need for 3.6 stable)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.92
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : 67x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Support : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled



Thanks

-hdpc

Try the changes above as I managed to tweak just a little bit more...and the bandwidth is great!!!

[ghost_recon88]

Who is going to be the first dare devil to flash their P5E/Maximus/Rampage to that monsters bios?

Can that even happen considering it uses DDR3?

[HDPC]

Try the changes above as I managed to tweak just a little bit more...and the bandwidth is great!!!

Thanks I will give that a go tonight.

-hdpc

[cadaveca]

Im getting BSOD in games and ive run memtest and getting errors test 2 test 4 and test 7 on seperate runnings of the test.

Is my ram screwed? I posted on OCZ support forum but admin says that this might not mean ram is bad?

I had system @ 3ghz from december to about a month or two ago and then upped it to 3.3ghz a month ago and the BSOD have been happening in the last couple of weeks. I went back to 3ghz and BSOD still happening as well as errors in memtest.

Any ideas?

Ram timings are toast.You can get this problem running Micron 2gb sticks as well as hynix, if TRFC/TREF is not correct.

[Grnfinger]

Hi,

I installed the the RAMs last night, but I am not having any luck OCing. I follow your template but getting OC failing (Det Ram). I noticed there are a few things different than yours.


C/P: A1 A2 | B1 B2 <---- Different than yours (Am I missing something?)
LVL: 04 05 | 04 05 <---- Different than yours (Am I missing something?)
Common Performance Level [7]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: Enabled <---- also different due to above setting
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Enabled


-hdpc

Your PL level is wrong thats why you have a Det Dram hang.
I would recommend you disable the pull ins and set your PL manually

[HDPC]

Your PL level is wrong thats why you have a Det Dram hang.
I would recommend you disable the pull ins and set your PL manually

Hi there Grnfinger,

Hope things goes well for ya! K, I will give that ago when I get home.

Cheers,

-hdpc

[HDPC]

Try the changes above as I managed to tweak just a little bit more...and the bandwidth is great!!!

I've tried it and still get the Det Ram hang.

Your PL level is wrong thats why you have a Det Dram hang.
I would recommend you disable the pull ins and set your PL manually

I am still having no luck.

Can you guys think of anything else? Thanks.

-hdpc

[Grnfinger]

post your current bios setting?

try setting dram static, clock twister,and booster to AUTO, see if it boots then
if it does check your trd ( performance level) setting in everest

[HDPC]

post your current bios setting?

try setting dram static, clock twister,and booster to AUTO, see if it boots then
if it does check your trd ( performance level) setting in everest

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# Activate Time : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to Pre Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [8]
Pull-In's --> All Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.4375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.92
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : 67x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Support : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

I've also set dram static, clock twister,and booster to AUTO but I still get Det Ram.

-hdpc

[Grnfinger]

up your ram volts to 2.1?
Votage is rated for 2.0 - 2.1

[Zucker2k]

up your ram volts to 2.1?
Votage is rated for 2.0 - 2.1

It's definitely ram. First, change AI Clock Twister to AUTO or at most moderate

Up NB to 1.55v