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  1. 05-30-2008, 05:51 PM #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerryR, on John Fruehe (JF-AMD) View Post
    Pretty much. Plus, he's here voluntarily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphiel View Post
    8 cores (16 threads) in 2008 Q4? I don't think so. That would be Nehalem Ex 2009 Q4 or later. 4 cores (8 thread) should be best / widest in 2008 Q4.

    Could be wrong, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OBR View Post
    NVIDIA HAS QPI license from 11/07!
    This seems to be the subject of some debate... with comments from an Intel PR manager adding to the confusion just today... http://www.nehalemnews.com/2008/05/n...eaded-for.html

    In the end it really doesn't provide much further clarity one way or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpingJack View Post
    There is no FSB in the x58/Nehalem architecture. The speed of interest will be the CSI link clock, but that will be irrelevant since the memory controller is moving on die... hence the reason for the 775 -> 1366 pin count.
    4.8GTs at 16bit wide => 19.2GBs per link
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMH View Post
    Nvidia has a QPI license but Intel doesn't has a SLI license
    Actually , NVIDIA won't get an QPI license from the looks of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by savantu View Post
    4.8GTs at 16bit wide => 19.2GBs per link
    32bit?
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  7. 05-31-2008, 12:53 AM #57
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    Ack. I suppose they cropped the photos for the same reason they covered the socket. Tri-channel memory? I would have thought/expected three colors on the dimm slots then. Looks like 3 sticks on each of the two channels if color is any indication ... which it very well may not be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gundamit View Post
    Ack. I suppose they cropped the photos for the same reason they covered the socket. Tri-channel memory? I would have thought/expected three colors on the dimm slots then. Looks like 3 sticks on each of the two channels if color is any indication ... which it very well may not be.
    Why 3 colours? You would use the same colour slots to populate one channel.

    It IS trichannel. If it was dualchannel it would be the mainstream part and there would be only a southbridge.

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    Is the IHS the same size as the 775 IHS?
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    all i can say is triple channel 6x dimm slot loving baby!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eva2000 View Post
    all i can say is triple channel 6x dimm slot loving baby!
    personally I'm in it for dual tripple channel unbuffered bandwidth with Gainstown.
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  12. 05-31-2008, 01:54 AM #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    32bit?
    They're actually 20bit wide , 16 for data and 4 for RAS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by savantu View Post
    They're actually 20bit wide , 16 for data and 4 for RAS.
    It was a leading question. Because like HT its unidirectional. So 4.8GT/s on a 16bit link aint 19.2GB/sec. But instead its 9.6GB/sec each way. Nobody would say 100mbit ethernet is 25MB/sec per link either.

    Same as people thinking they have a 6.4GB/sec/8GB/sec HT link. Instead they have 3.2 or 4GB/sec each way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by initialised View Post
    Is the IHS the same size as the 775 IHS?
    its bigger.
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    The mounting holes tell me that push pins will live on. DAMB YOU PUSH PINS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGore View Post
    The mounting holes tell me that push pins will live on. DAMB YOU PUSH PINS!
    Who doesn't toss the boxed heat sink in the parts bin anyway..
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    Quote Originally Posted by azza21 View Post
    Hmm..i think the x58 has an ICH10R controller rather then the ICH9R which is holding back SSD drives from reaching there maximum speeds. Possibly FSB 1800?
    Someone else will be able to explain more than me
    No, the SATA2 interface supports up to 300 GB/s of bandwidth, the fastest SSD read/write speeds are just approaching 100MB/s. Samsung has also announced a drive with 200MB/s and 256GB for next year.

    What I want to know, is there going to be an LGA755 version of Nehalem that will work with DDR2 boards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 003 View Post
    No, the SATA2 interface supports up to 300 GB/s of bandwidth, the fastest SSD read/write speeds are just approaching 100MB/s. Samsung has also announced a drive with 200MB/s and 256GB for next year.

    What I want to know, is there going to be an LGA755 version of Nehalem that will work with DDR2 boards?
    There is no LGA755, and nehalem is DDR3 only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    There is no LGA755, and nehalem is DDR3 only.
    That sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 003 View Post
    That sucks.
    45nm Q9450 and P45, or wait for Nehalem and X58? For some reason, I remember seeing P53, or was it P43? Is there an enthusiast chipset line like P35 is to X38/48?
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    Quote Originally Posted by philbrown23 View Post
    I like the way that socket looks! looks like the 775 almost but a tad more SEXY!
    Maybe set up a new computer w/out CPU just as a house decoration?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polizei View Post
    45nm Q9450 and P45, or wait for Nehalem and X58? For some reason, I remember seeing P53, or was it P43? Is there an enthusiast chipset line like P35 is to X38/48?
    P35 = mainstream, X38/48 = enthusiast

    P45 = mainstream, X58 = enthusiast
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    I could've sworn there was either a P43 or a P53 coming out though... Either that, or I was hallucinating when I read an article... Hmm...
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