GeForce 9900 GTX & GTS Slated For July Launch

[iTravis]

So if the cards launch on 18th June, when will they be avaliable in stores like Newegg?

My guess is on the same day.

[Periander6]

Be that as it may, it relates to the issue of the validity of the Inquirer article informing those of what to expect if you thought of buying a GT200 now vs waiting until the GT200b is released. That is the point of it all

Which should be viewed in light of the author's transparent hatred of Nvidia and his laughable history of recommending holding off purchasing the G80 in favor of waiting for the R600 numbers about which he stated:

R600 should annihilate it in DX10 benches though. We hear G80 has about 1/3 of it's die dedicated to DX10 functionality.

http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquir...rts-thickening

Charlie's goal is to write anything that might prevent people from buying Nvidia, period.

[zerazax]

Yeah he didn't have a good record w/ R600 vs. G80 *but* no one else did either. In fact, going off rumors at the time, half the people didn't even think it had a unified shader architecture.

Anwyays, he does have a hatred of Nvidia but a lot of what he said in that article is true - you just have to sift through the facts from the spin and the conclusions

[Periander6]

Yeah he didn't have a good record w/ R600 vs. G80 *but* no one else did either. In fact, going off rumors at the time, half the people didn't even think it had a unified shader architecture.

A lot of people thought the G80 didn't have unified shaders because of Charlie saying it didn't.

[hoop]

My guess is on the same day.

god welling maybe the day before

[dunn2953]

i think the most i have ever spent on a videocard was a 6800gt for $388 bucks back in the day.

[GAR]

Charlie from the INQ hates on nVidia like its a part of his religion.

[Bo_Fox]

Bo_Fox the 55nm refresh will more than likely be released in November/December.
And to be honest, the possibility of a 55nm refresh sounds like old news to the ones who have been watching the GPU's "revolution" for a year or so.
History repeats itself

Usually, it takes like 3 months in between the tape-out and the product availability.. am I right?

Funny how one obviously biased idiot writing a single article can sway the opinions of so many people.

Be careful--you might end up calling yourself one if you buy a GT200, only to see a 55nm version released right after you started to enjoy your 65nm card! What one says can show a lot about one's own potential self-criticism.. (Just kidding--rubbing you the wrong way, eh? :P)

[fireice2]

i Hope newer and better games will challenge the GTX 280's power. hehehe

[tajoh111]

Usually, it takes like 3 months in between the tape-out and the product availability.. am I right?



Be careful--you might end up calling yourself one if you buy a GT200, only to see a 55nm version released right after you started to enjoy your 65nm card! What one says can show a lot about one's own potential self-criticism.. (Just kidding--rubbing you the wrong way, eh? :P)

Life to short to worry about stuff like that. Its not like we are going to see a crazy amount of performance difference.

The only people who should care about this stuff are benchers aiming for the record. Theres not going to be a big difference in playability.

Knowing the intentions of this guy and listening to a tool like charlie, is foolish and playing into his game. A guy that calls a card slow and obsolete which is the 2nd fastest thing availible at the time obviously has a different agenda on his mind.

[Calmatory]

Charlie from the INQ hates on nVidia like its a part of his religion.

Just like many people around here hate AMD and ATI.

[BenchZowner]

Be that as it may, it relates to the issue of the validity of the Inquirer article informing those of what to expect if you thought of buying a GT200 now vs waiting until the GT200b is released. That is the point of it all

Charlie + nVIDIA = validity = unknown word.

Please don't tell me that after reading the quotes from his "articles" ( Laugh out loud please ) in the previous page you still believe anything from this guy...

For what it's worth I'm telling you that in February 2009 nVIDIA will come up with a 55nm "enhanced" refresh of the 55nm refresh of the "GT200" you're going to start advising people to wait till then ?

In IT if you wait and believe everything that can be found in the wild from various "authors" with or without sources, with hate or without, then you'll never upgrade.

Which should be viewed in light of the author's transparent hatred of Nvidia and his laughable history of recommending holding off purchasing the G80 in favor of waiting for the R600 numbers about which he stated:



http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquir...rts-thickening

Charlie's goal is to write anything that might prevent people from buying Nvidia, period.

Childish behavior, pretty much like "mister" Sanders in the past.

Yeah he didn't have a good record w/ R600 vs. G80 *but* no one else did either. In fact, going off rumors at the time, half the people didn't even think it had a unified shader architecture.

There were news that had some correct info, but of course that wasn't from the Inquirer, DailyFetch or the "trustworthy" chiphell, bleachhell, blah blah.
You just need to filter what you read.

Also using something like saying that nobody got the info right back then, does not help or withdraws what TheInq and any other site that call themselves reliable with those obviously biased, and pure speculative "articles".
When I don't have a clue about something I do not talk about it, and of course I'm not saying things that originated from my "wildest dreams or nightmares".

I'd rather not say something or publish a not so sure article, than losing my credibility.But that's just me...

Charlie from the INQ hates on nVidia like its a part of his religion.

Usually, it takes like 3 months in between the tape-out and the product availability.. am I right?

3 to 4 months from tape-out to production yes.
To availability ? That depends on what the manufacturer wants to do

Just like many people around here hate AMD and ATI.

Some hate, some love some companies.
You don't have to "listen" or "believe" them though.
You have the right to filter & think about what you read.

However, posting just that isn't what I'd call constructive, offering nothing, and of course opening the ground for a flame-war.

[xt0m]

So if the cards launch on 18th June, when will they be avaliable in stores like Newegg?

My guess is on the same day.

I thought they'd hit channels/resellers on 3rd already?
So should deffo be in stores by 18th..

[RealTelstar]

Any preorder available yet?

[miptzi]

I think there's nothing to worry.
It was said from the beginning that would exist some 65nm AND 55nm.

It was said that Nvida is playing safe.... and will use the 55nm FIRST in the low-end as a test.....

pretty sure that AFTER some successful test, there will be a TOP 55nm chip............. just after..... let´s see how the low-end 55nm chip behave.

IMO

[Tim]

I can still remember the same stupid comments because 7800GTX was supposed to be hot, and they had a display model with a burned out transistor at a show. TheInq went crazy over it. That's when Fudo was anti nVidia as well, mind you Fuad has never been this bad.

They said the same thing about 7900, 8800, and now GT200.

Silly isn't it.

[Loque]

I think the new wave of graphic cards will last for a looooong time since game devs won't bother to add more complexity to their games more than what a 360 and ps3 can do, maybe just a bit higher detail here and there but not too much, we already reaching the limits of what those consoles can do and they are going to stay on the market for some good years until the next gen.

[Tim]

I think the new wave of graphic cards will last for a looooong time since game devs won't bother to add more complexity to their games more than what a 360 and ps3 can do, maybe just a bit higher detail here and there but not too much, we already reaching the limits of what those consoles can do and they are going to stay on the market for some good years until the next gen.

Very true, I think even the 8800GTX will last another year easily.

[hoop]

awa man i want one of these new cards but dang theres another one coming in Sept, damn i dont know wtf to do i just dont know if i can continue to hold off

[ownage]

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/GeFo...ance/5817.html

CJ sent us a performance chart comparing Radeon HD 3870 X2 against the GeForce GTX 280 and GTX 260 on some of the games out there. Although, the benchmarks are done internally by Nvidia but it is probably conclusive to compare GTX 280 and GTX 260 here. The drivers for GeForce GTX 200 cards is the upcoming GeForce Release 177 while the drivers for 3870 X2 is a rather old Catalyst 8.3.

[v_rr]

Cat 8.3? lol

[Nuker_]

Would cat 8.6 or 8.5 make a visible difference?

[ownage]

Would cat 8.6 or 8.5 make a visible difference?

Even then I don't believe anyting on the slide. The slide says the GTX-280 is 103% faster then the HD3870X2 overall. I only believe impartial reviewers.

[SimBy]

Even then I don't believe anyting on the slide. The slide says the GTX-280 is 103% faster then the HD3870X2 overall. I only believe impartial reviewers.

Why not? It's quite possible. If GTX280 is around 20% faster than 9800GTX2 it's close to 100% faster than 3870X2 in many games. Less in some more in others.

[v_rr]

Would cat 8.6 or 8.5 make a visible difference?

A lot. Cat 8.3 date from 4 March. To Cat 8.6 (begining June) will be 3 months difference.

But you know, those benchmarks are from PR Nvidia. They don´t use Cat 8.5 for a simple reason. The graph will look diferent.

For example, the Cat 8.5 release Notes:

The following performance gains are noticed with this release of Catalyst™.

* Call of Juarez DX10: Performance increases up to 12% on systems containing an ATI Radeon™ HD 3xx0 series of product
* Halo: Performance increases by 10-30% across all of the supported ATI Radeon™ series of products
* Lost Planet DX10: Performance increases from 5 to 35% on systems containing an ATI Radeon™ HD 3xx0 series of product
* Stalker DX9: Performance increases by 20-50% when HDR is enabled in the game; across all ATI Radeon™ HD38x0 series of products
* World in Conflict DX10: Performance increases up to 25% on systems containing an ATI Radeon™ HD36x0 and/or an ATI Radeon™ 38x0 series of product. Higher performance gains are noticed on systems contianing an ATI Radeon™ 3870x2 series of product