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    ok, i have a problem, idk where to post this so ill ask here, i got this mobo as most of already know, but my rig isnt done, im waiting for a Q9450
    anywyas, mean while im using an old P4 at 3.3 ghz and also a 9800gtx now my problem is i was trying to play nfs pro street and as i raise teh resolution, it immediately starts to get sluggish , its only playable at 800x600
    is this the cpu being a bit to old or something or am i screwd? loking up i have almost the same specs as nits
    srry for bad spelling typing w/e, im really sleepy atm





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    Quote Originally Posted by 71 (Bryan) View Post
    ok, i have a problem, idk where to post this so ill ask here, i got this mobo as most of already know, but my rig isnt done, im waiting for a Q9450
    anywyas, mean while im using an old P4 at 3.3 ghz and also a 9800gtx now my problem is i was trying to play nfs pro street and as i raise teh resolution, it immediately starts to get sluggish , its only playable at 800x600
    is this the cpu being a bit to old or something or am i screwd? loking up i have almost the same specs as nits
    srry for bad spelling typing w/e, im really sleepy atm
    No matter how good your computer is, if your CPU is....crap. don't expect miracles But yeh your CPU is your bottleneck meaning its holding your computer (GPU) from doing anything because the CPU cant handle it, you shouldn't have this problem when you put that Q9450 in your rig

    btw try clocking that p4 wanna see it burn to hell!

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    I haven't got that game to compare Bryan, but how about we compare 3dmark scores? http://www.futuremark.com/download/
    I haven't really tried many games yet, only one, COH @ stock and it was smooth as silk @ 1280x1024.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holystarlight View Post
    No matter how good your computer is, if your CPU is....crap. don't expect miracles But yeh your CPU is your bottleneck meaning its holding your computer (GPU) from doing anything because the CPU cant handle it, you shouldn't have this problem when you put that Q9450 in your rig

    btw try clocking that p4 wanna see it burn to hell!
    I have a P4 @ 3.0GHz here as it happens. Can't even remember if I clocked it or not now. Seems so long ago I put it together! It runs Doom 3 quite well with a radeon X1650 + 3GB of ram. No major slowdowns or jerkiness @1280x1026.

    Perhaps it's worth trying to reinstall the video drivers, and even the OS if the system has become corrupt. I got slowdowns in benchmarks while trying to OC this Q9450, and restoring a previous image I took of my partition sorted that right out! I can't say for sure, but it seems like OCing corrupted my system, causing the bad bench marks. Just glad I have multiple image backups of my OS
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    Thank you once again holystarlight. Loadline enabled, VTT up just a single notch to 1.36, and bingo!
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    why i cant get my cpu to work over 4.2ghz it will never boot over 4.2ghz even at 1.6v
    :S help plz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nits View Post
    Thank you once again holystarlight. Loadline enabled, VTT up just a single notch to 1.36, and bingo!
    Sweet stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmetro24 View Post
    why i cant get my cpu to work over 4.2ghz it will never boot over 4.2ghz even at 1.6v
    :S help plz
    Might wanna tell us your other voltages/settings before we can help

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmetro24 View Post
    why i cant get my cpu to work over 4.2ghz it will never boot over 4.2ghz even at 1.6v
    :S help plz
    Maybe your CPU wont run at 4.2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nits View Post
    Thank you once again holystarlight. Loadline enabled, VTT up just a single notch to 1.36, and bingo!
    Nice. I've always ran loadline enabled. I get absolutely no vdroop with it on. It does what it is suppose to do for me. What kind of Memory bandwidth are you getting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nugzo View Post
    Nice. I've always ran loadline enabled. I get absolutely no vdroop with it on. It does what it is suppose to do for me. What kind of Memory bandwidth are you getting?
    That would be nice to know, totally forgot about that, bet because its a 45mn chip its going to be fine, unlike my Q6850 that just wont give me good Memory bandwidth for whatever reason. *prays that a bios update will fix it*

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    memory 2.1v
    vid 1.38v in bios that boot to windows at 4.2ghz
    other volts are auto
    +30mv
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    Quote Originally Posted by hmetro24 View Post
    memory 2.1v
    vid 1.38v in bios that boot to windows at 4.2ghz
    other volts are auto
    +30mv
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    Try this

    Loadline Calibration Enable

    SLI memory Disable

    CPU Voltage (Find whatever stable for you on this one, Every CPU is different)
    PLL Voltage 1.60
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    FSB Termination Voltage (VTT) 1.40
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    ref DDRII Controller AUTO
    ref DDRII Controller Channel A AUTO
    ref DDRII Controller Channel B AUTO
    With some luck this should work, if you use the correct voltage for your CPU start with 1.38v as you done, and if not stable then work your way up a little with the voltage untill it is stable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nugzo View Post
    Nice. I've always ran loadline enabled. I get absolutely no vdroop with it on. It does what it is suppose to do for me. What kind of Memory bandwidth are you getting?
    I was getting very nice bandwidth and latency when running linked and in sync @ 3.66 and @ 3.7. @ 3.6 my bench was just a little under what you see in the attachment.

    Those were the only two FSBs that I saw that improvement @, and everything else gave me <10000 MBs.

    For some reason now, after having got 3.66 stable, I'm getting ordinary bandwidth/latency now, both @ 3.66 and @ 3.7 despite running linked and in sync! Not sure what's going on, and to top it all my bandwidth has gone down @ 3.6 too

    I tried disabling loadline calibration, and reseting bios, but nothing is helping

    I'm starting to wonder if my board has developed a fault (bios was doing some strange things like changing my linked settings) or I've fried something doing that 24hr run with loadline enabled!?
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    Loadline Calibration Shouldn't damge anything, all it will do is stop vdroop meaning that your CPU when on full load the voltage shouldn't drop and when idle the voltage always stays the same, it shouldn't harm anything, I have had it on from day 1, Only thing that could damage something is clocking your PCI-E port in the bios which can damage your GPU and also the motherboard. but part from that Loadline Calibration is just a pencil mod but without the hardwork

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    Quote Originally Posted by holystarlight View Post
    Loadline Calibration Shouldn't damge anything, all it will do is stop vdroop meaning that your CPU when on full load the voltage shouldn't drop and when idle the voltage always stays the same, it shouldn't harm anything, I have had it on from day 1, Only thing that could damage something is clocking your PCI-E port in the bios which can damage your GPU and also the motherboard. but part from that Loadline Calibration is just a pencil mod but without the hardwork
    Sadly there's more to it then just that, Johnny_ftm prolly can give ya more insight... but to sum it up with LLC enabled you can get very bad spikes (read overshoots) that could be lethal to some CPU's (read 45nm) resulting in degradation and co... it all depends on various factors...
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    Yeah. It's those voltage spikes I was worried about.

    Does anyone know if a fried cpu/chipset would manifest by lower bandwidth?

    Right now, the only thing I can think of trying is to flash bios to a later version. I think I'm clutching @ straws here, but perhaps the bios was corrupted.
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    Just flashed to 1303 bios, and no change

    Here's a before and after @ 3.7 linked/sync:
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    The first Everest pic shows ram (Memory Type during test) at 5-6-6-21-2T. The second at 5-5-5-15-2T. I doubt that's it, but something to rule out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hor$eman View Post
    The first Everest pic shows ram (Memory Type during test) at 5-6-6-21-2T. The second at 5-5-5-15-2T. I doubt that's it, but something to rule out.
    Yeah - I used Memset to change the timings, so they were the same in both cases. No matter what I do with the timings, I can't get the same bandwidth/latency that I had before.

    Think I'll have to RMA this board, as I can't see any other option open to me.
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    Breakthrough! I tested some settings @ 3.6 and got screenshots of the results. The only settings that changed are the ones listed below:

    Shot 1: Loadline Calibration-DISABLED + Vcore-1.431v

    Shot 2: Loadline Calibration-DISABLED + Vcore-1.437v

    Shot 3: Loadline Calibration-ENABLED + Vcore-1.431v

    So increasing Vcore a couple of notches (0.012v) above what I needed for 24hr Prime95 stability (or enabling LLC), results in extra bandwidth (or a better synthetic benchmark anyway) ?!
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    For everyone running at 450+ FSB do you have any active cooling on the NB

    what options for extra cooling will i have if i get the this board

    from all the reviews ive read most of them come to the conclusion that the stock cooling is inadequate especially if overclocking and i will be using a TRUE so that will probably limit what i add to the NB due to lack of space

    the first thing i do "if" i get this board is replace the thermal material with some arctic ceramique

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sem View Post
    For everyone running at 450+ FSB do you have any active cooling on the NB

    what options for extra cooling will i have if i get the this board

    from all the reviews ive read most of them come to the conclusion that the stock cooling is inadequate especially if overclocking and i will be using a TRUE so that will probably limit what i add to the NB due to lack of space

    the first thing i do "if" i get this board is replace the thermal material with some arctic ceramique
    I'm using stock heatpipes and a TRUE with no issues. I have a small fan off of an old amd socket A HSF. It rests on the video card and goes underneath the edge of the TRUE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sem View Post
    For everyone running at 450+ FSB do you have any active cooling on the NB
    Yes - a single 40x40x10mm fan attached using 3mm screws
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    MB - Asus Striker II Formula (Bios Revision 1303)
    CPU - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66 GHz - OEM
    CPU Cooler - Tuniq Tower 120
    RAM - 8GB (4x2GB) Corsair TwinX DDR2 PC2-8500 1066MHz CAS 5-5-5-15
    GPU - BFG GeForce 9800 GTX 512MB GDDR3
    HDD - Seagate 250GB SATAII 7200RPM 16MB Cache x2 in RAID 0 array
    HDD - Seagate ST3250310AS 250GB SATAII 7200rpm 8MB Cache
    Backup Storage - Icy Box IB-138SK-B 3.5" SATA HDD Caddy
    Optical - Pioneer DVR-215 20x SATA CD/DVD Writer
    Sound - Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
    PSU - Tagan TG800-U33 800W 2-Force II Series
    Case - Antec P182 Super Midi Tower
    OS - Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit

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