Atom-vs-Celeron-vs-Core-2-duo

[XS Janus]

Article and pic found at:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/21/m...-atom-cracked/

original but translated:
http://translate.google.com/translat.../0519/msi2.htm

They tested the upcoming MSi Wind PC.
Actually the scores are not so bad:

[Monkeywoman]

its not a controlled test. they all should have the same ram and OS, then benched. those results dont mean anything.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Not one setup the same, yeah that's how comparisons are done.

[XS Janus]

True it looks like they just benched whatever they had at hand
At least it's something to start with...

Power figures told here, if you can make heads and tails with this translation:
"Checker watts of power consumption, WIND PC in a low-load about 30 W, 35 W, high-level load, Eee PC 4G-X is always about 15 W, hand VAIO type SZ VGN-SZ90PS (Core Duo T2400, Intel 945GM Express Chipset, GeForce Go 7400), a low-load about 30 W, 60 W, high-level load. デスクトップPCとしてはかなり低い値で、Silverthorne搭載の携帯端末ならこれよりもさらに低 くなる。 Desktop PC is much lower value, Silverthorne-equipped mobile handsets are also more would be lower."

[grimREEFER]

its not a controlled test. they all should have the same ram and OS, then benched. those results dont mean anything.

i think the asus one's are too slow to run vista. well, the 4g definitely, they might have been able to use the 900 though.

[Frank M]

Power figures told here, if you can make heads and tails with this translation:
"Checker watts of power consumption, WIND PC in a low-load about 30 W, 35 W, high-level load, Eee PC 4G-X is always about 15 W, hand VAIO type SZ VGN-SZ90PS (Core Duo T2400, Intel 945GM Express Chipset, GeForce Go 7400), a low-load about 30 W, 60 W, high-level load. デスクトップPCとしてはかなり低い値で、Silverthorne搭載の携帯端末ならこれよりもさらに低 くなる。 Desktop PC is much lower value, Silverthorne-equipped mobile handsets are also more would be lower."

I'll give it a try:
Wind PC: 30W idle - 35W full load
Eee PC 4g-X: 15W on all loads
VAIO: 30W idle - 60W load
The sentence full of kanjis and kanas probably means that the desktop
version of atom, while not really power-hungry, still has a higher
consumption compared to the mobile, which should be much lower.
Dunno, there are some unknown kanjis and words there, might be off.

Checking the source again, it seems your quote has the last sentence
twice: the original and the google-translated. So then I was not that
far

Also, things like this make me want to laugh & cry:
Windows EKUSUPERIENSUINDEKKUSU.
A couple of strange blinks later I checked the original:
Windowsエクスペリエンスインデックス
Read: Windows Experience index

[m^2]

i think the asus one's are too slow to run vista. well, the 4g definitely, they might have been able to use the 900 though.

Then they should test all with XP.
BTW I'd like to see how Vista crawls on Atom+slow drive+not so much memory

[STaRGaZeR]

Also, things like this make me want to laugh & cry:
Windows EKUSUPERIENSUINDEKKUSU.
A couple of strange blinks later I checked the original:
Windowsエクスペリエンスインデックス
Read: Windows Experience index

Priceless

[villa1n]

i think the asus one's are too slow to run vista. well, the 4g definitely, they might have been able to use the 900 though.

vlite ^^ maybe.

[STEvil]

Now we need some numbers to compare to VIA's recent CPU's.

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

I'd like to see clock for clock tests.

[foch3 -USA-]

But what will that prove? if one cpu can clock higher in the same TDP as another shouldn't it be allowed to.

[p0tter]

Im running a D201GLY2A w/ 1GB DDR2, 4GB CF flash on a nlite'd xp pro for a work project. Ill give pcmark a run tomorrow and play along, even though its not a laptop

http://www.mini-box.com/D201GLY2A-kit

[stayfrosty]

I'd like to see clock for clock tests.

So would I, I have the feeling that core 2 would come out on top in terms of speed tho.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Isn't the Atom more about efficiency then performance? If so, it really doesn't make sense to compare it performance wise.

[Frank M]

Im running a D201GLY2A w/ 1GB DDR2, 4GB CF flash on a nlite'd xp pro for a work project. Ill give pcmark a run tomorrow and play along, even though its not a laptop

The processor is a CelM220, Conroe-L ULV, so the performance should
be close to SC Conroe-Celerons (4x0 series)

Isn't the Atom more about efficiency then performance?

Yeah, design a 45nm CPU for low, 1-4W max. consumption, then pair
it up with a 130nm NB that has higher consumption than the CPU...
well done Intel
- sorry, I just can't get over this part...

[Hornet331]

Yeah, design a 45nm CPU for low, 1-4W max. consumption, then pair
it up with a 130nm NB that has higher consumption than the CPU...
well done Intel
- sorry, I just can't get over this part...

yup i dont get it why they dont use a 945GM(U) (7W TDP), the 945G has a TDP of 22W... lol

[saaya]

very nice!

[XS Janus]

yup i dont get it why they dont use a 945GM(U) (7W TDP), the 945G has a TDP of 22W... lol

It could be that they still have a lot of those chips laying around.
I know they have a s775 miniITX boards comming that use G45 are HDMI and GBe cappable!

I guess it would be a no-brainer to pair them up with Atom.

But IMO they will wait with that a while...

[fireice2]

at least this comparison would give us an idea on how these things will perform out of the box.

[bedlamite]

Well, that's quite obvious that CPU with IOE is slower than OoOE one...
But still I like this design and would gladly see such Atom in my next notebook

[bowman]

yup i dont get it why they dont use a 945GM(U) (7W TDP), the 945G has a TDP of 22W... lol

Yeah, did you see the first Atom motherboard?

Larger, actively cooled heatsink in the middle, Intel southbridge-type passive heatsink off to the side..

You'd assume the actively cooled sink is on the CPU. It's on the northbridge. The Atom has the passive southbridge-sized sink on it.

[leomax]

Id love to see an atom coupled with a mb which has pci-e.

Yeah, did you see the first Atom motherboard?

Larger, actively cooled heatsink in the middle, Intel southbridge-type passive heatsink off to the side..

You'd assume the actively cooled sink is on the CPU. It's on the northbridge. The Atom has the passive southbridge-sized sink on it.

yea,

[Frank M]

yup i dont get it why they dont use a 945GM(U) (7W TDP), the 945G has a TDP of 22W... lol

The 945G is for the desktop version, the laptop will have a lower
consumption model.

I know they have a s775 miniITX boards comming that use G45 are HDMI and GBe cappable!

I guess it would be a no-brainer to pair them up with Atom.

Maybe, but they wont: Atom's chipset is Poulsbo.
G45 is IMO too expensive even for Atom, and it wasn't designed for
low consumption unlike Poulsbo. Also, Poulsbo has hardware video
decoding/acceleration.

Yeah, did you see the first Atom motherboard?

Larger, actively cooled heatsink in the middle, Intel southbridge-type passive heatsink off to the side..

You'd assume the actively cooled sink is on the CPU. It's on the northbridge. The Atom has the passive southbridge-sized sink on it.

Ouch... epic fail.

[FischOderAal]

Ouch... epic fail.

yupp, perverted.