The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Grnfinger]

excuse me isn't CPU Voltage : 1.475 too much for a E8400?? Can I keep it for daily or what u suggest? now i'm at 480*8 at 1.3500V at 47°in full orthos (4hours), think I've to give more than 1.4Vcore for reaching 4Ghz, thanks

with the vdroop on this board 1.475 is about 1.455, Intel white paper states 1.45 max, so I would think its ok for 24/7 use, I have ran it for 3 months with now issues.
But this is Extreme Systems not mediocre systems

Hey grnfinger, here are my latest stable settings. (i'm the guy who couldn't get to 3.8 stable). these are the settings I'm using atm for 3.6 with rampage bios 0401 on a mf non-se -

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : stronger (don't remember exactly)
Transaction Booster : auto
-Relax Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.54
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

based on these settings, can you suggest what I might need to hit 3.8?

Suggestions are in bold

[melanko]

I have a E8400 4.4GHz setting that has very decent bandwidth, it might help you some....

Nice, 3 Degrees outside.

Good results.

[Nuckin_Futs]

So, still nobody playing with a Q9450 on the MAXIMUS yet? Or I guess I'll have to wait for somebody new to ask and read the results. Maybe a Q9550 w/ an 8.5x FID?

[cadaveca]

45nm FSB crawling is just that, crawling. I'm hoping to see better than what I've got, but I'm doubtful...X48 seems the ticket for 45nm.

[Talonman]

Odd thing just happened to my system. Fired it up at 4AM today, read a few messages, and system started shutting down on it's own. It also tried to restart too. I have made no system changes in the last few days except the Vista update that came out yesterday I believe. My auto update feature grabbed it.

When my system tried to reboot it looked like it was working, but went into a endless rebooting loop.

After about 5 reboots I received the message the last attempt to reboot was unsuccessful and selected to boot in safe mode. Safe mode came up fine, and the system appeared to be willing to stay up.

I then rebooted again into Vista in normal mode, and things seem to be right back to normal...

So odd, but it dosen't give me a very good feeling, that I have for the first time seen my system get locked into an endless rebooting loop.

Any ideas what it could have been?

[Leeghoofd]

Think you answered it yaself... one of the reasons I just disable all that autoupdate crap... I still run al my Pc's on XP Pro(64) with SP2 no updates at all (not even IE7)

[icecpu]

I have one simple question
Do I set at 0.63x or 0.67x for
CPU GTL Reference : ????

What is this setting for and what's the difference ?? Does it effect overclocking or do damaging to the cpu
I have E8400, thanks

[Kyo`]

Hello after a while
I have some issues with my newly bought Maximus. For a start, it overvolts every voltage - except VCORE - by +0.05-0.1v. I set PLL on 1.5v, it's working on 1.6v. I set NB on 1.41, and in reality it's 1.46v, and so on. Is this normal?
Next thing is something that bothers me greatly. I own a pair of 1GB 1066 KingMax RAM sticks, which worked great on my old DS3R, that are supported officialy by the Maximus (at least that's what the fookin manual says). But no matter what settings I use, and I've tried really everything doing 2 weeks of tests, they don't want to work properly. When I set them on 900MHz (1:1 FSB ratio, 3600MHz Q6600) and start blending in Prime, I get errors after ~45 mins (just when the 896K test starts). When I set them on 1066MHz, I get errors after 1 min of blending - they don't even pass the first test! And I get instant freezes/restarts when playing games too.
At first I thought it's a RAM problem, so I installed another pair of KingMax's (yes, I love them), which are also mentioned in the officially supported list. This time it was a 800MHz pair, which worked great @ 960MHz on the DS3R. But that didn't solve the problem, even on those sticks I still get the blending errors as soon as the 896K test starts.
It's also worth mentioning that I pass the small FTT's test 5H+ with no errors, so the CPU works fine - it's purely a RAM situation here.
What the hell is the problem here, could it be a motherboard hardware problem? Is something wrong with the board and I should RMA it?
The issues started as soon as I got the board, on the 802 bios. Then I tried 2 other bios versions - 1004 and 1201, but that didn't change anything. Could flashing to Rampage Formula help?
When I said I tried every setting, I really mean it - various voltages and their combinations, straps, ratios, transaction boosters etc.
I need some advice badly, I'm desperate, sending another ASUS board to RMA is just too much

OK, my problem is over. I bought some OCZ Reaper 1066 sticks, and... they work just fine and stable on normal voltage and timings and a tad more mhz!
So the conclusion is: although the KingMax sticks are officialy supported by this board, in reality they're not! So as much as I respect these sticks for being cheap as hell and good, they're just not meant to be for this board - avoid at all cost. They're fine with Gigabyte thought
Cheers.

[XtremeTiramisu]

Odd thing just happened to my system. Fired it up at 4AM today, read a few messages, and system started shutting down on it's own. It also tried to restart too. I have made no system changes in the last few days except the Vista update that came out yesterday I believe. My auto update feature grabbed it.

When my system tried to reboot it looked like it was working, but went into a endless rebooting loop.

After about 5 reboots I received the message the last attempt to reboot was unsuccessful and selected to boot in safe mode. Safe mode came up fine, and the system appeared to be willing to stay up.

I then rebooted again into Vista in normal mode, and things seem to be right back to normal...

So odd, but it dosen't give me a very good feeling, that I have for the first time seen my system get locked into an endless rebooting loop.

Any ideas what it could have been?

I'm running vista x64 SP1 and keeping up with the latest updates with no problem. It seems your system was unstable due to a not 100% stable OC. Before you conclude on it's the Vista x64 SP1 fault, make sure that you don't have any driver compatibility issues with any applications that you run. Run both OCCT/Prime to test any possible hardware failures.

[Talonman]

So far the error has not come back...

I don't know that Vista had anything to do with it. I was just trying to think if any changes had been made to my system in the last week or so. The update was the only thing that came to mind. I am a Vista 64 fan, and think SP1 rules.

I will Prime a bit more, with the settings I currently am running (My 3.6GHz for the web), has been Primed for 4 hours + already.
I haven't figured out how to get Memtest to run on Vista 64 bit, that would be a good one to run too.

First time I have ever seen my reboot issue.
I was impressed how orderly it shut down each time. No blue screen, no error message. Just like I had selected 'Restart' myself.
I wonder if my Power button was in a funky position...

I hope it was just a one time thing.

I have my replacement (RMA) Raptor being delivered soon. I had one WD1500ADFD-0 150GB only live about 5 hours total. (Nice folks to deal with too!)
I am about to start from scratch, and dive into RAID 0 for the OS, and my favorite Games. I need to find a good program that would back my 2 disk RAID array up onto my Caviar 750GB.

[Kyo`]

Hello.
Can someone post the rampage 403 bios here? This: http://rapidshare.com/files/114895439/RF0403.zip
Rapidshare is being in gay, can't download even tho I find the damn stupid cats :|

[ante_ante]

Just notices that the new maximus formula has FSB 1600Mhz while my old one only has FSB 1333Mhz , do you think the new 1600Mhz will perform better in fsb overclocking ? Planing to for either a new formula or a real x48 rampage

[Grnfinger]

Hello.
Can someone post the rampage 403 bios here? This: http://rapidshare.com/files/114895439/RF0403.zip
Rapidshare is being in gay, can't download even tho I find the damn stupid cats :|

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...mpage_Formula/

bookmark that for future use

[Nuckin_Futs]

Just notices that the new maximus formula has FSB 1600Mhz while my old one only has FSB 1333Mhz , do you think the new 1600Mhz will perform better in fsb overclocking ? Planing to for either a new formula or a real x48 rampage

I wouldnt think too much different. The origional Maximus always did 1600~2000FSB out the box on first BIOS. It was CPU and dram tweaking that bottlenecked it. So if you're using a quad, not likely gonna see the FSB max of any of the current mobos. E6300 and E6850 users will see more of that then any of them.

However, it is showing that Quads can perform on lower FSB but tight NB timing, the trd "performance level".

My personal experience only really showed score increase, but not so much real worl gain over the traditional FSB OC, provided CPU can do it. Not to mention stability, mobo and chipset really need to be cranked up to match that PL tightening.
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OK, it would appear nobody here can confirm, so can anybody link to info on the conpatability of real RF BIOS downloads v/s the ones posted here as to if they are actually different? I mean can the real ASUS RF v0403 be downloaded and hacked flashed to the MF, or is it spacifically written (hacked) to do that?

[Nuckin_Futs]

Just notices that the new maximus formula has FSB 1600Mhz while my old one only has FSB 1333Mhz , do you think the new 1600Mhz will perform better in fsb overclocking ? Planing to for either a new formula or a real x48 rampage

I wouldnt think too much different. The origional Maximus always did 1600~2000FSB out the box on first BIOS. It was CPU and dram tweaking that bottlenecked it. So if you're using a quad, not likely gonna see the FSB max of any of the current mobos. E6300 and E6850 users will see more of that then any of them.

However, it is showing that Quads can perform on lower FSB but tight NB timing, the trd "performance level".

My personal experience only really showed score increase, but not so much real worl gain over the traditional FSB OC, provided CPU can do it. Not to mention stability, mobo and chipset really need to be cranked up to match that PL tightening.
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OK, it would appear nobody here can confirm, so can anybody link to info on the conpatability of real RF BIOS downloads v/s the ones posted here as to if they are actually different? I mean can the real ASUS RF v0403 be downloaded and hacked flashed to the MF, or is it spacifically written (hacked) to do that?

Aslo, any word on if we can hack the BIOS ro jsut flash for new P5E3 Premium for use of multu CPU GTL_Ref on our MF?

[Kyo`]

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...mpage_Formula/

bookmark that for future use

Yes, I know the ASUS site But is it really the same bios? The link on the 1st page is to a ~2mb zip file, while the one you provided is a ~1mb zip file.
OK nvm I have it now - rapidshare happy hours o/

[chawks2]

I have one simple question
Do I set at 0.63x or 0.67x for
CPU GTL Reference : ????

CPU GTL for 65nm = .67x
CPU GTL for 45nm (E8400) = .63x

[Talonman]

I think I know why I was rebooting. We just lost total power at the house for a few minutes. Turnes out the boy's were working on the power lines today near my house. I bet we weren't quite up to snuff on voltage this AM.

The wife knew about it, I didn't!

[Grnfinger]

Yes, I know the ASUS site But is it really the same bios? The link on the 1st page is to a ~2mb zip file, while the one you provided is a ~1mb zip file.
OK nvm I have it now - rapidshare happy hours o/

exactly where do you think they come from... Santa Clause??

you ever hear about file compression?? thats why ppl zip files

[OVERK|LL]

I wouldnt think too much different. The origional Maximus always did 1600~2000FSB out the box on first BIOS. It was CPU and dram tweaking that bottlenecked it. So if you're using a quad, not likely gonna see the FSB max of any of the current mobos. E6300 and E6850 users will see more of that then any of them.

However, it is showing that Quads can perform on lower FSB but tight NB timing, the trd "performance level".

My personal experience only really showed score increase, but not so much real worl gain over the traditional FSB OC, provided CPU can do it. Not to mention stability, mobo and chipset really need to be cranked up to match that PL tightening.
------------------

OK, it would appear nobody here can confirm, so can anybody link to info on the conpatability of real RF BIOS downloads v/s the ones posted here as to if they are actually different? I mean can the real ASUS RF v0403 be downloaded and hacked flashed to the MF, or is it spacifically written (hacked) to do that?

Aslo, any word on if we can hack the BIOS ro jsut flash for new P5E3 Premium for use of multu CPU GTL_Ref on our MF?

I believe it is the flags used with the engineering release (and the need to use the engineering release) of afudos that facilitates the conversion, not the actual BIOS bin files.

[Kyo`]

exactly where do you think they come from... Santa Clause??

you ever hear about file compression?? thats why ppl zip files

Yep I heard about it... just didn't expect some morons would actually set a 0% compression rate Just had me thinking that maybe it's somekinda h4x0r bios somehow different from the official Anyway everything is dandy now, rampage formula on

[kup]

Yep I heard about it... just didn't expect some morons would actually set a 0% compression rate Just had me thinking that maybe it's somekinda h4x0r bios somehow different from the official Anyway everything is dandy now, rampage formula on

That "moron" would be me. I set them to Storage as opposed to Compression to guarantee the integrity of the bios files. Also, the way I keep them hosted without being deleted is because of the file size and the Rapidshare FreeZone rules allowing me to keep them.

If you don't like the way I do it, go find the files by yourself.

[Grnfinger]

That "moron" would be me. I set them to Storage as opposed to Compression to guarantee the integrity of the bios files. Also, the way I keep them hosted without being deleted is because of the file size and the Rapidshare FreeZone rules allowing me to keep them.

If you don't like the way I do it, go find the files by yourself.

I like the way you do it

Did you grab a DFI board yet, or still sitting on the fence?

I'm looking real hard at the LT X48 T2R

[Kyo`]

That "moron" would be me. I set them to Storage as opposed to Compression to guarantee the integrity of the bios files. Also, the way I keep them hosted without being deleted is because of the file size and the Rapidshare FreeZone rules allowing me to keep them.

If you don't like the way I do it, go find the files by yourself.

Whoops Well, no harm intented - really appreciate the work you put into the topic. The difference in filesize was just somewhat confusing. But honestly, rapidshare started to suck badly, who the hell invented those dog-cat security systems anyway... Perhaps I'll be able to find some host for the files - having some mirrors is always nice.

[kup]

I like the way you do it

Did you grab a DFI board yet, or still sitting on the fence?

I'm looking real hard at the LT X48 T2R

Still on the Maximus Rampage. Running a silent rig atm, with C1E and EIST enabled. I'll get back to overclocking once I move (or at the very least, my home life improves).

I have however indulged in Crossfire now...2x x1650Pro 512MB...lol...my 3870 went bang so I need both x1650 cards to get CoD4 looking semi decent and playable!