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    i have been playing around more so with my phenom still and now it seems alot more stable at 13, 13, 13, 12 @224 but when it does freeze now i can still move my cursor around but nothing happens when i click. nothing works not alt, ctrl, del. any ideas what could cause that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calcifer View Post
    i have been playing around more so with my phenom still and now it seems alot more stable at 13, 13, 13, 12 @224 but when it does freeze now i can still move my cursor around but nothing happens when i click. nothing works not alt, ctrl, del. any ideas what could cause that?
    I had the same... I couldnt be arsed and left it as instability. Running stock now untill some good boards with good BIOS's and lay-outs come out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calcifer View Post
    i have been playing around more so with my phenom still and now it seems alot more stable at 13, 13, 13, 12 @224 but when it does freeze now i can still move my cursor around but nothing happens when i click. nothing works not alt, ctrl, del. any ideas what could cause that?
    That was the instability on my OC until I tweaked the vDDQ setting and turned down the HT Link. What's your vDIMM ...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    its actually hidden in the DFI bios along with VTT, I may ask they unhide it if it would add stability
    I would appreciate it if instead of hiding things they dont know they would test it...Maybe an idea *sigh*.
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    Hi
    Well i was having trouble with my 9850 overclock anything over 2.7 a few post back i pull my brand new 750w PS out of my
    rig and put my 600w PS back in than BAM !! stable 2.81 trouble free doing anything i ask the PC to do. I have now hit 2.9 with
    hight volts 1.45 stalbe air cool but the cpu get hot so i when back to 2.81 (before i was never able to run any clock over 2.7 stable at all with 750w ps ) so it maybe your power supply that mite be the trouble . It just something to think about keeping a open mine as
    to what mine be the trouble.

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    as i said quietice everytime i touch any volage in aod it freezes the computer. i miss the good ol days of fulll bios clocking and not relying on a program. and merkk1 if you refering to me i have a thermaltake 1200W (needed it for my 2 2900xt's). thanks for the help thus far guys
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    Calcifer, it may not matter on your rig anyway - that's why I asked about your vDIMM. I haven't seen anything suggesting a low vDIMM would cause an issue but mine runs 2.1v stock (DDR2-800). I think maybe there's too much voltage difference when the vDIMM is that high since the default vDDQ is 1.8v (same as default DDR2 vDIMM).

    If you are running a high vDIMM you might try the opposite approach by turning down the vDIMM and loosening up the timings to make it work. Can't hurt to give it a shot ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by merkk1 View Post
    Hi
    Well i was having trouble with my 9850 overclock anything over 2.7 a few post back i pull my brand new 750w PS out of my
    rig and put my 600w PS back in than BAM !! stable 2.81 trouble free doing anything i ask the PC to do. I have now hit 2.9 with
    hight volts 1.45 stalbe air cool but the cpu get hot so i when back to 2.81 (before i was never able to run any clock over 2.7 stable at all with 750w ps ) so it maybe your power supply that mite be the trouble . It just something to think about keeping a open mine as
    to what mine be the trouble.
    Interesting, but if this would be true for my PSU I would be quite pissy though! It's a good brand, I use a DMM to measure Voltages and they were all very good and solid. 12.04V and 4.99V. I dont think that I ever had such a PSU.

    And if this one is indeed borked, Ive no clue anymore what I should buy instead then tbh.
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    Hi
    Up-date i put my 750w PS (xigmatek-mc751 750w) back in last night . I change how i had some of the lines plug into the PS (it modular cabling) and add a line to it to cut down on how much load
    is on all the lines and now it running my rig stable at 2.81 like the 600w PS was .Rammateiner it
    mite be worth a try if you got a spair PS to give it a try just to see what happens.

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    You call it my friend the next PS for me will be a single raid PS in fact over the week end i almost got
    the one you have but told my self to give the Xigmatek one more try .

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    i have a question with prime95. when running the 4 threads in it does thread 1 stress core 1? thread 2 stress core 2 and so on? because i know core 1, 2, 3 are stable at over 2.9 but core 4 gets issues at 2675mhz and when puching it further and then running prime for stablity running all cores at 12@224 they all fail in about 3 seconds. any ideas. and would i be better off running a tri core at over 2.9 or sunning it as a quad with 3 cores at 2.9 and 1 at 2.67? there is an option in the asus bios to disable cores. thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merkk1 View Post
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    You call it my friend the next PS for me will be a single raid PS in fact over the week end i almost got
    the one you have but told my self to give the Xigmatek one more try .

    Don't waste you're time on that nonsense! Go get a really good P.S.U like a PC-Power & Cooling 860w or the SILVERSTONE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben_Brown View Post
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    hey QuietIce having my ram as posted above at 742 5-5-5-18 1.8V it now crashes ALOT more and now when it freezes the sound does the 1/4 of a second looping
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    Guess your RAM just doesn't like low voltage. That's too bad, I thought it might work for you ...
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    they are corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX which defualt at 2.1V. might go get a pack or 2x2gig ocz like tony's as they seem to be very impressive
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Esau View Post
    Don't waste you're time on that nonsense! Go get a really good P.S.U like a PC-Power & Cooling 860w or the SILVERSTONE
    looks like you got mandelbrot in your sig. Is that the windowpane version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calcifer View Post
    they are corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX which defualt at 2.1V. might go get a pack or 2x2gig ocz like tony's as they seem to be very impressive
    That's the same as mine but I don't think I have the silver heatsinks (HX are silver, right?). Don't they have an SPD of 5-5-5-18(-22) @ 1.8v? I've never tried mine at those timings but you'd think they would easily run that way ...
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    well uless it is an issue with in the bios setting different volts to what i configure it CAN NOT run stable at anything less then 2.1V and ANY frequency or timings! and yes they are silver fins for "better heat transfer".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben_Brown View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by merkk1 View Post
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    Up-date i put my 750w PS (xigmatek-mc751 750w) back in last night . I change how i had some of the lines plug into the PS (it modular cabling) and add a line to it to cut down on how much load
    is on all the lines and now it running my rig stable at 2.81 like the 600w PS was .Rammateiner it
    mite be worth a try if you got a spair PS to give it a try just to see what happens.
    I have the same PSU ... (but haven't tried OC yet)

    Can you describe what were your connections when it worked and when it didn't?
    What line did you add exactly and where (top/bottom)?
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    You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    I updated the bios on my MSI K9A2 Platinum last night. I had to do so on its schedule instead of mine since it quit booting from my RAID controller after putting in an Intel PRO/100+ NIC. Even after removing the NIC the system still wouldn't boot properly.

    Updated from the late January build to the March build and it started working again. My power and reset buttons still don't behave properly. I still have to clear CMOS before being able to cold boot about half the time, too.

    Anyone else have this issue on the K9A2 v1? I've not been brave enough to try the trace masking trick yet on my RAID controller since it's so dern expensive.
    I haven't had any booting issues on my K9A2 Platinum
    I'm using P0H BIOS right now (with a B2 Phenom)
    I'll avoid later BIOS's until I get a B3 stepping chip (so I don't get a performance hit with the TLB fix)

    I've got 6 x hard drives (4 x 750's, 1 x 320, 1 x 74GB Raptor)
    XP Pro 32 (SP3) and x64 (SP2) installed on the Raptor

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