The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Zucker2k]

No, it would be called ECC in the bios. It's error correcting code and it's set for ECC RAM and it's not useless.

I think ECC RAM is supported by this board.

[Speederlander]

I think ECC RAM is supported by this board.

Can someone 100% confirm before I spend $250.

[ZenEffect]

Can someone 100% confirm before I spend $250.

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?mo...11&l3=572&l4=0

says support

ecc, non ecc and unbuffered. really the best place to ask would be asus themselves... but good luck getting a timely answer.

*back to work on the ram, trying to get even close to the same bandwidth i had before*

[Zucker2k]

Can someone 100% confirm before I spend $250.

Check the ram support:

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?mo...11&l3=572&l4=0

[Nuckin_Futs]

The L7 Q6600's are runners...

The B indicates 'Bad Boy' ... (Not too many people know that!)

Sweet Chip Grnfinger!

Are you speaking in slang as in Bad is "good" or is it realy bad as in no good? And the runner, is a "good" runner or one to "run from"? JUst wanna make sure.

Potential n00b question here

Is anyone using the latest Matrix drivers from Intel??
RAID/AHCI Software - Intel® Matrix Storage Manager (5615KB) 7.8.0.1012 11/9/2007

I'm using the original shipping version atm 7.5.0.1017, wonder who if any were using the latest and if there is any benifit to upgrading, or should I not fix what is not broken??

Yes, I am and have been since new, and so far so good, a bit more stable on overclocks.

Can anyone confirm the ECC option on this board for the RAM?

YES, this mobo suports ECC but ECC RAM will not overclock like the ones most of us are using. Also, I was wondering, since Rampage and most X48 do not support, how does this effect the RF hack on MF? is ECC blanked out now?

[ZenEffect]

Check the ram support:

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?mo...11&l3=572&l4=0

beat you to it

YES, this mobo suports ECC but ECC RAM will not overclock like the ones most of us are using. Also, I was wondering, since Rampage and most X48 do not support, how does this effect the RF hack on MF? is ECC blanked out now?

asus says they support ecc w/ the rampage. unless there is other published information saying otherwise?

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?mo...11&l3=640&l4=0

*twice now!*

[Speederlander]

beat you to it



asus says they support ecc w/ the rampage. unless there is other published information saying otherwise?

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?mo...11&l3=640&l4=0

*twice now!*

I see the ECC support on the maxiumus but not the Rampage...

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

just bought the asus formula a low end cpu watercooling system- good and silent though and an E3110

im pretty stuck here at 4.1 ghz , i can go higher but cpu seems to require a lot of voltage, and my siberian tiger really cant keep up with more....i can do orthos with temps below 65 now....but somehow i think it might be some motherboard settings i miss..most of them are at auto still..the pll and stuff really confuses me a lot, RAM isnt an issue at the moment, if i can get 500 fsb i will be happy.....

im giving the cpu about 1.45v which i consider a bit too high for the freq....i had no problems reaching 430 but above that the instability kicked in... i have adjusted nb and sb voltage and ram voltage....but i hope some of u out there can help me with some settigns that might push the cpu/board the last 50 fsb....on the other side it might just be the cpu, that is unlucky....some bios settings with others with a E8400/E3110 or like that would be helpful ...and yes, i have problems with raid in win xp pro as well as some ppl have in vista.....

[Speederlander]

Anand says the Rampage is non-ECC but on various sites selling it they say it is ECC and the asus website doesn't mention either...blah

[ZenEffect]

I see the ECC support on the maxiumus but not the Rampage...

it says it right on the page. i linked

4 x DIMM, Max. 8 GB, DDR2 1200*/1066/800/667 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory

they definitely could have made it easier to see... or used proper punctuation. looks like ecc is part of 667. but given your information, i would call asus. $250 is too much money to spend for something that "might" work.

[Speederlander]

it says it right on the page. i linked

4 x DIMM, Max. 8 GB, DDR2 1200*/1066/800/667 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory

they definitely could have made it easier to see... or used proper punctuation. looks like ecc is part of 667.

Actually, I don't think the page fully loaded for me before. All those details were blank. Excellent, thx.

[bummerboy]

http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm

there is version 8.0.0.1039 which is whql but non-official.. been good so far in vista x64

Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Potential n00b question here

Is anyone using the latest Matrix drivers from Intel??
RAID/AHCI Software - Intel® Matrix Storage Manager (5615KB) 7.8.0.1012 11/9/2007

I'm using the original shipping version atm 7.5.0.1017, wonder who if any were using the latest and if there is any benifit to upgrading, or should I not fix what is not broken??

[scottath]

I have tried almost all the settings posted and still have a BSOD 0x00000124 when priming - prime doesnt fail - it just bluescreens
Has anyone got a solution to this error - or should i just do Another fresh load of windows? [i had this problem with my old board also]

[jVIDIA]

Anyone has the DET RAM f****** problem ?

With my old OCZ Reapers 9200 I had some problems with DET RAM but managed to get them working @ 1128MHz with 2.3v and a lot of vNB and VFSB

Now with my new Corsair Dominator 8500C5DF 2x2GB I can only boot without the DET RAM "lock" at 800MHz

With no CPU OC and @ 5-5-5-15 - 1066MHz - 2.1v that are the default values for this sticks my Rampage refuses to boot, displaying DET RAM on the LCD.

Used also tRFC=55, vNB=1.50, vFSB=1.40 and no luck.

I'm becoming very pissed off with this board.

I've come from a P5K-E that run's 100% stable my Q6600 G0 @ 3600MHz and 2x1GB OCZ Reaper 9200 @ 1128MHz with only the vCore and Vmem changed !

Now for me to boot with the Rampage I've got to give more vCore to get the 3600MHz and I get this DET RAM sh*t

I know that the Rampage has a lot off settings to tune .... I know all that, but even when I was with the Reaper's and all tuned up @ 1128MHz (ex: PL:6) I got less or equal Everest Memory Benchmarks than with the P5K-E !!!

I really don't think that the ROG boards deserves the money that ASUS sells them.

For me 1066 on the mem should be a walk in the park in current times , but it seems that the actual x38/x48 boards are very picky with the mems.

Any sugestions for the DET RAM problem ?

[Talonman]

Are you speaking in slang as in Bad is "good" or is it realy bad as in no good? And the runner, is a "good" runner or one to "run from"? JUst wanna make sure.

I was just jokeing that the L7 Q6600's seem to be the ones to have due to their ability to OC so well. Better than the L8's!

[Stanley Pain]

Anyone has the DET RAM f****** problem ?

With my old OCZ Reapers 9200 I had some problems with DET RAM but managed to get them working @ 1128MHz with 2.3v and a lot of vNB and VFSB

Now with my new Corsair Dominator 8500C5DF 2x2GB I can only boot without the DET RAM "lock" at 800MHz

With no CPU OC and @ 5-5-5-15 - 1066MHz - 2.1v that are the default values for this sticks my Rampage refuses to boot, displaying DET RAM on the LCD.

Used also tRFC=55, vNB=1.50, vFSB=1.40 and no luck.

I'm becoming very pissed off with this board.

I've come from a P5K-E that run's 100% stable my Q6600 G0 @ 3600MHz and 2x1GB OCZ Reaper 9200 @ 1128MHz with only the vCore and Vmem changed !

Now for me to boot with the Rampage I've got to give more vCore to get the 3600MHz and I get this DET RAM sh*t

I know that the Rampage has a lot off settings to tune .... I know all that, but even when I was with the Reaper's and all tuned up @ 1128MHz (ex: PL:6) I got less or equal Everest Memory Benchmarks than with the P5K-E !!!

I really don't think that the ROG boards deserves the money that ASUS sells them.

For me 1066 on the mem should be a walk in the park in current times , but it seems that the actual x38/x48 boards are very picky with the mems.

Any sugestions for the DET RAM problem ?

Dial in ALL the RAM timings and disable DRAM Static read control and see if that helps. Perhaps bump the Vdimm a notch if you're not already running it high.

[Zucker2k]

I'm usually all about cpu frequency but I'm very happy with this...
Next, I'll be playing with ram tweaks and see if I can maintain stability. NB is at 1.60v (everest), VFSB is 1.394v. I'll try to tweak these down a little bit.

[masska]

Hi guys, I've finally got my tracers back from Crucial a few days ago.And I must say these feel and behave a lot better than my original red ones (these are double sided aswell). Anyway I got a 3.6 OC quite easy (stable and OCCT),I did manage to get up to 3.8 and 3.9, however it wasn't stable. Now I dont want to keep messing arround with it too much as this is my work machine aswell, and I dont wont to corrupt the OS. So I'm looking for your help to get me up to 3.8 or 3.9. My temps are 35c idle and 60-64 stress/load @ 3.6 and almost identical at 3.9. These are my settings.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 9
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge :400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax Level : 0
CPU Voltage : 1.44375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.08
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.150
Loadline Calibration : enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

[GiN]

Anyone has the DET RAM f****** problem ?

With my old OCZ Reapers 9200 I had some problems with DET RAM but managed to get them working @ 1128MHz with 2.3v and a lot of vNB and VFSB

Now with my new Corsair Dominator 8500C5DF 2x2GB I can only boot without the DET RAM "lock" at 800MHz

With no CPU OC and @ 5-5-5-15 - 1066MHz - 2.1v that are the default values for this sticks my Rampage refuses to boot, displaying DET RAM on the LCD.

Used also tRFC=55, vNB=1.50, vFSB=1.40 and no luck.

I'm becoming very pissed off with this board.

I've come from a P5K-E that run's 100% stable my Q6600 G0 @ 3600MHz and 2x1GB OCZ Reaper 9200 @ 1128MHz with only the vCore and Vmem changed !

Now for me to boot with the Rampage I've got to give more vCore to get the 3600MHz and I get this DET RAM sh*t

I know that the Rampage has a lot off settings to tune .... I know all that, but even when I was with the Reaper's and all tuned up @ 1128MHz (ex: PL:6) I got less or equal Everest Memory Benchmarks than with the P5K-E !!!

I really don't think that the ROG boards deserves the money that ASUS sells them.

For me 1066 on the mem should be a walk in the park in current times , but it seems that the actual x38/x48 boards are very picky with the mems.

Any sugestions for the DET RAM problem ?

i flashed rampage bios 0401 and now i cant boot any oc even with old bios lcd poster says det ram if try oc. before this i get 450mhz x9.5 4.3ghz @1.32 vcore. i have tryed every thing gtl, voltages, ram settings, another memory sets and mother board etc etc no boot even little oc

[iadstudio]

Hi guys, I've finally got my tracers back from Crucial a few days ago.And I must say these feel and behave a lot better than my original red ones (these are double sided aswell). Anyway I got a 3.6 OC quite easy (stable and OCCT),I did manage to get up to 3.8 and 3.9, however it wasn't stable. Now I dont want to keep messing arround with it too much as this is my work machine aswell, and I dont wont to corrupt the OS. So I'm looking for your help to get me up to 3.8 or 3.9. My temps are 35c idle and 60-64 stress/load @ 3.6 and almost identical at 3.9. These are my settings.

Watch the timings on the 8gb of memory. You don't want it too tight with 8gb and a serious cpu OC.

[Grnfinger]

http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm

there is version 8.0.0.1039 which is whql but non-official.. been good so far in vista x64

Thanks for the link

Anyone has the DET RAM f****** problem ?

With my old OCZ Reapers 9200 I had some problems with DET RAM but managed to get them working @ 1128MHz with 2.3v and a lot of vNB and VFSB

Now with my new Corsair Dominator 8500C5DF 2x2GB I can only boot without the DET RAM "lock" at 800MHz

With no CPU OC and @ 5-5-5-15 - 1066MHz - 2.1v that are the default values for this sticks my Rampage refuses to boot, displaying DET RAM on the LCD.

Used also tRFC=55, vNB=1.50, vFSB=1.40 and no luck.

I'm becoming very pissed off with this board.

I've come from a P5K-E that run's 100% stable my Q6600 G0 @ 3600MHz and 2x1GB OCZ Reaper 9200 @ 1128MHz with only the vCore and Vmem changed !

Now for me to boot with the Rampage I've got to give more vCore to get the 3600MHz and I get this DET RAM sh*t

I know that the Rampage has a lot off settings to tune .... I know all that, but even when I was with the Reaper's and all tuned up @ 1128MHz (ex: PL:6) I got less or equal Everest Memory Benchmarks than with the P5K-E !!!

I really don't think that the ROG boards deserves the money that ASUS sells them.

For me 1066 on the mem should be a walk in the park in current times , but it seems that the actual x38/x48 boards are very picky with the mems.

Any sugestions for the DET RAM problem ?

The Det Dram hang is a result of memory timing and wrong TRD/PL setting
for 1066 you will need a PL of 7 to boot, 6 is to strong of a setting, there is a table that can help when setting this



Anandtech goes into it rather well and there is a blurb about it on OCZ

here are the links
OCZ TRD calculator ---> http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=36361
Anandtech Article-----> http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=1

Once you understand this simple math your DET DRAM hang will be a thing of the past.

[OVERK|LL]

Anyone has the DET RAM f****** problem ?

With my old OCZ Reapers 9200 I had some problems with DET RAM but managed to get them working @ 1128MHz with 2.3v and a lot of vNB and VFSB

Now with my new Corsair Dominator 8500C5DF 2x2GB I can only boot without the DET RAM "lock" at 800MHz

With no CPU OC and @ 5-5-5-15 - 1066MHz - 2.1v that are the default values for this sticks my Rampage refuses to boot, displaying DET RAM on the LCD.

Used also tRFC=55, vNB=1.50, vFSB=1.40 and no luck.

I'm becoming very pissed off with this board.

I've come from a P5K-E that run's 100% stable my Q6600 G0 @ 3600MHz and 2x1GB OCZ Reaper 9200 @ 1128MHz with only the vCore and Vmem changed !

Now for me to boot with the Rampage I've got to give more vCore to get the 3600MHz and I get this DET RAM sh*t

I know that the Rampage has a lot off settings to tune .... I know all that, but even when I was with the Reaper's and all tuned up @ 1128MHz (ex: PL:6) I got less or equal Everest Memory Benchmarks than with the P5K-E !!!

I really don't think that the ROG boards deserves the money that ASUS sells them.

For me 1066 on the mem should be a walk in the park in current times , but it seems that the actual x38/x48 boards are very picky with the mems.

Any sugestions for the DET RAM problem ?

Are your sticks on the compat list? My Crucial Ballistix 667's are running at 1066 with nothing more than some mild suggested timing and voltage settings by another user on this forum a page back.

[Grnfinger]

just bought the asus formula a low end cpu watercooling system- good and silent though and an E3110

im pretty stuck here at 4.1 ghz , i can go higher but cpu seems to require a lot of voltage, and my siberian tiger really cant keep up with more....i can do orthos with temps below 65 now....but somehow i think it might be some motherboard settings i miss..most of them are at auto still..the pll and stuff really confuses me a lot, RAM isnt an issue at the moment, if i can get 500 fsb i will be happy.....

im giving the cpu about 1.45v which i consider a bit too high for the freq....i had no problems reaching 430 but above that the instability kicked in... i have adjusted nb and sb voltage and ram voltage....but i hope some of u out there can help me with some settigns that might push the cpu/board the last 50 fsb....on the other side it might just be the cpu, that is unlucky....some bios settings with others with a E8400/E3110 or like that would be helpful ...and yes, i have problems with raid in win xp pro as well as some ppl have in vista.....

I have a E8400 4.4GHz setting that has very decent bandwidth, it might help you some....



Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 489
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1174
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[MurderCityDevil]

Hey grnfinger, here are my latest stable settings. (i'm the guy who couldn't get to 3.8 stable). these are the settings I'm using atm for 3.6 with rampage bios 0401 on a mf non-se -

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : stronger (don't remember exactly)
Transaction Booster : auto
-Relax Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.381250
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.54
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.26
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

based on these settings, can you suggest what I might need to hit 3.8?

[advapi]

excuse me isn't CPU Voltage : 1.475 too much for a E8400?? Can I keep it for daily or what u suggest? now i'm at 480*8 at 1.3500V at 47°in full orthos (4hours), think I've to give more than 1.4Vcore for reaching 4Ghz, thanks