"i strike the empire back..." 15K has fallen // D9GTR @ 1100MHz 32M

[3oh6]

Sure I'm a BH5 diehard that hasn't fully recovered yet, and hate anything looser than 2-2-2-5, but what can ya do?

still running my benching BH-5 in my daily AMD rig...the one i am responding on now. i know where your coming from.

I've read on more than one occasion that 800 CL6 ~ 900 CL7 ~ 1000 CL8...any truth to that in your opinion??

i would say that is the natural thought process. i haven't really gone as far to test them all directly like that but have done some similar comparisons in DDR3 reviews. i think that sounds about right, but it also depends on what your testing i think. in 32M, like it has been for so long...higher frequency rules all. hell, my TCC5 would always out run my BH-5 back in the day...but i wouldn't make that claim in public until now

JNL is that good eh...

i don't know about all kits, but this one sure is. just spit out dual 32M 1112MHz @ 2.10v w/pretty much the same sub-timings as above, just slightly looser. if they continue to scale at 20~25MHz per 0.05v up to 2.20v, then 1150MHz dual 32M may be in reach...that is a scary thought.

[George_o/c]

WTF are you doing M8?........
1100MHz (2200MHz DDR) with 1T?..... STABLE SP 32M?.....

Yeah, Jody is determined to drive us crazy with these sticks 1100MHz DUAL SPi 32M is just ... scary should I say ?

I have yet to see a single D9GTR kit reach DDR3-2150+ Dual SPi32M stable, but I've seen 3 D9JNL reach DDR3-2150+ Dual SP32m stable.

We 're still talking CL8 here huh ? 3 of 'em ? Bill, could you say which please ? Just to take them into consideration when I buy my bench rig in a month or so ...

Sure I'm a BH5 diehard that hasn't fully recovered yet, and hate anything looser than 2-2-2-5, but what can ya do?

Oh yes I know that feeling my friend ... Mushkin Level 2 PC3200 @ 270MHz+ 2-2-2-5 ...

Back then, did anyone manage to get his bh5 do CL1 ?

i don't know about all kits, but this one sure is. just spit out dual 32M 1112MHz @ 2.10v w/pretty much the same sub-timings as above, just slightly looser. if they continue to scale at 20~25MHz per 0.05v up to 2.20v, then 1150MHz dual 32M may be in reach...that is a scary thought.

It is a scary though indeed ...

So let me get this straight here ... As far as 790i is concerned, if someone wants his memory frequency at around 900MHz benchable, for highest possible performance he should use a GTR kit @ CL7, right ? If though, one aims at sky high frequencies then his choice should definitely be a JNL @ CL8 ... ?

I find your tests Jody, more than interesting, and for sure a lot of helpful Keep 'em coming

[BenchZowner]

We 're still talking CL8 here huh ? 3 of 'em ? Bill, could you say which please ? Just to take them into consideration when I buy my bench rig in a month or so ...

This one.
One other G.Skill of a friend. And a Super Talent E.S. that I played with ( not my kit, not on my hardware, just run some memtest with it on a eVGA 790i board ) [ was helping him in setting up and tweaking his new pc ]

So let me get this straight here ... As far as 790i is concerned, if someone wants his memory frequency at around 900MHz benchable, for highest possible performance he should use a GTR kit @ CL7, right ? If though, one aims at sky high frequencies then his choice should definitely be a JNL @ CL8 ... ?

Well, on the Striker II Extreme with BIOS 0601 ( the one I'm running atm ) 7-6-5-21 clocking sucks big time.
Same goes for 6-5-5-18.

I'd say a high clocking 6-5-5 kit or a really high clocking 7-7-6 or 8-7-6 kit.

[M.Beier]

For high CL8 clocks D9JNL is the way to go.
I have yet to see a single D9GTR kit reach DDR3-2150+ Dual SPi32M stable, but I've seen 3 D9JNL reach DDR3-2150+ Dual SP32m stable.

I think I'll be hunting a good D9JNL kit soon

If ever I get a 790i board, you can count on me to give that a shot... Else, with nehalemn, you can be sure too see such numbers

4x2GB JNL should be on their way...

[EnJoY]

Oh yes I know that feeling my friend ... Mushkin Level 2 PC3200 @ 270MHz+ 2-2-2-5 ...

Back then, did anyone manage to get his bh5 do CL1 ?

I had over 30+ sets of BH-5. KHX, Corsair, Mushkin LVL2 Black...and my favorite...the OCZ PC3500 LE's. I too am a BH-5 whore.

Btw, CL1 was never possible as it was a technical impossibility on both the nForce chipsets northbridge and later in the Athlon 64 IMC. As was CL1.5, despite it being an option on DFI boards.

[Gautam]

This one.
One other G.Skill of a friend. And a Super Talent E.S. that I played with ( not my kit, not on my hardware, just run some memtest with it on a eVGA 790i board ) [ was helping him in setting up and tweaking his new pc ]



Well, on the Striker II Extreme with BIOS 0601 ( the one I'm running atm ) 7-6-5-21 clocking sucks big time.
Same goes for 6-5-5-18.

I'd say a high clocking 6-5-5 kit or a really high clocking 7-7-6 or 8-7-6 kit.

7-6-5 seems to suck on 790i, but loosen it to 7-6-6 and it flies.

[3oh6]

7-6-5 seems to suck on 790i, but loosen it to 7-6-6 and it flies.

that is what i have found so far as well, but 7-6-6 didn't gain me much. that was also right after i got the board so things might be a bit different.

**edited because the Crucials turned out not to be JNL...GTS instead **

[clo007]

nice overclocks

[dinos22]

Jody is right IMO
8-7-6-x 1T is where it hits the sweet spot on this chipset

790i doesn't have much over Intel i CAS7 but CAS8 it is definitely better in my experience with Nvidia ref. vs. Gigabyte and Asus Intel boards

[George_o/c]

I had over 30+ sets of BH-5. KHX, Corsair, Mushkin LVL2 Black...and my favorite...the OCZ PC3500 LE's. I too am a BH-5 whore.

Btw, CL1 was never possible as it was a technical impossibility on both the nForce chipsets northbridge and later in the Athlon 64 IMC. As was CL1.5, despite it being an option on DFI boards.

Thanks for the answer m8 Another great DDR kit is OCZ Gold VX PC4000 1G kit (utt chips) 255MHz @ 2-2-2-5 @ 3 Volts is TOO easy (on a DFI )

[M.Beier]

Thanks for the answer m8 Another great DDR kit is OCZ Gold VX PC4000 1G kit (utt chips) 255MHz @ 2-2-2-5 @ 3 Volts is TOO easy (on a DFI )

And the G.Skill F1-PC3200-1GBHS I belive that were their name... 277-283mhz 2x512MB... I belive I hit 287mhz as far as I remember...

[George_o/c]

And the G.Skill F1-PC3200-1GBHS I belive that were their name... 277-283mhz 2x512MB... I belive I hit 287mhz as far as I remember...

Really ? hmmm, I might search for one

[M.Beier]

Really ? hmmm, I might search for one

My Ultra-D didnt want to run 4v stable... I only used 3.93v, aircooled

[3oh6]

My Ultra-D didnt want to run 4v stable... I only used 3.93v, aircooled

ahhh, those were the days. when motherboards only wanted to supply 3.93v to memory...and the memory took it with a smile on its face

[PytonOrm]

Holy Crap dude nice work there m8

[George_o/c]

My Ultra-D didnt want to run 4v stable... I only used 3.93v, aircooled

ahhh, those were the days. when motherboards only wanted to supply 3.93v to memory...and the memory took it with a smile on its face

Hehe ... And then hipro came with the Maximizer and telling us this he drove us crazy

The voltage WITH the dip switches will go up to 3.60Volts(for more "secure" reasons) and with the trimmer will be up to 4Volts for more "dangerous" overclocking.......

[Darkstormz]

Impressive speeds and T1. WOW!

[3oh6]

Holy Crap dude nice work there m8

Impressive speeds and T1. WOW!

thanks guys...just doing my duty of beating these incredible sticks.

just a small update with a pinch higher and a 1M SPi at the highest frequency to boot...

596MHz x 9 5362MHz / 1117MHz @ 8-7-6 :: 1M - 8.609 // Everest - 15070
click for full size...

[George_o/c]

Jody, breathtaking results These G.Skills have really taken me aback with these impressive clocks ... They kick ass in high frequencies What should my choice be as far as the 1600MHz kit is concerned ... ? Cellshock, G.Skill, Supertalent ... hmm Well, I think I have to go and continue studying 'cause tomorrow, the exams will start ... 1st Lesson is Greek Language combined with Composition writing ... I've revised all the book several times, one more won't hurt me though

[quake6]

Could somebody explain GTS,GTR and JNL chips... I'm lost in it... And does new sets of G.Skill 12800 Cl7-7-7-18 HZ series come with JNL chips? Thanks

[I34z1k]

:| Wow those sticks ROCK. Volts for latest speeds?

[George_o/c]

Could somebody explain GTS,GTR and JNL chips... I'm lost in it... And does new sets of G.Skill 12800 Cl7-7-7-18 HZ series come with JNL chips? Thanks

Yeah, the new G.Skill 12800 kits are coming with JNL (well in most of the cases ) ... GTR = ~GTS (maybe GTR are a little better - not for sure though ) > JNL And in 790i terms it seems that, if you want CL6 or CL7 high freqs you should stick with GTR or GTS, but if you want CL8 high freqs (one main advantage of 790i) you should choose JNL

[M.Beier]

Could somebody explain GTS,GTR and JNL chips... I'm lost in it... And does new sets of G.Skill 12800 Cl7-7-7-18 HZ series come with JNL chips? Thanks

GTS & GTR: 8x balled
JNM & JNL: 7x balled

GTS & GTR was more expensive, and less severe productionline.
JNL is in massproduction, JNM is as well I belive - But JNM has some issues (wont go into details)

GTS & JNM is 1333 CL: 9
GTR & JNL is 1066 CL: 7

All chips officially operates at same voltage.

- New sets of G.Skill 12800 CL7 is JNL, yes, but this might change.. But currently they are I belive...

GTS isnt on many kits...

EDIT:
Those AINT mhz, but DDR-ratings... Thats 666mhz / 533mhz....

[saaya]

gtr/gts and jnl/jnm are different chip revisions made in a different process, jnl/jnm are the newer ones and use a smaller package with less solder balls.
gts/gtr scaled with more vdimm than jnl/jnm, and could run lower trcd and trp than jnl/jnm can. ie 765 for gtr/gts vs 777 or 776 for jnl/jnm
At the same voltage jnl/jnm clock better than gtr/gts, and, like george o/c said, for cas6 and cas7 gtr/gts seem to be slighty better while for cas8 jnl/jnm seem to be better.

again, this doesnt apply to all chips, some good jnl/jnm like our cellshock 1866 kits can reach 1900-2000 cas7
So not all jnl/jnm chips clock bad with cas7...

Overall I can hint that jnl/jnm have a MUCH wider field of yields than GTR/GTS ever had.
This means the difference between the best and the worst is pretty large for JNL/JNM while it was rather low for GTR/GTS

[3oh6]

:| Wow those sticks ROCK. Volts for latest speeds?

it's in the screenshot...2.203v at the DIMM slot. i might have be able to do it with less, that's just what i had set.