ATI Radeon HD 4000 Series discussion

[Macadamia]

This guy appears to have access to "some" insider info (grain of salt applies here). I've never seen this person post info like this unless he was sure of it. But anything is possible he could be just blowing wind. Time will tell. Hold your breath and take it with a pinch of salt.


In a later post he admits he's not sure if it was the pro or XT. Again take it with a grain of salt...

Monkeys can make predictions too.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Monkeys can make predictions too.

By that definition posts like this would also apply. As stated in that post all is taken with a grain of salt. I believe you have forgotten that most information in this thread has been speculation.

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Cards haven't been sent to partners yet, there are some indications of the performance cards floating around, but they are vastly different.

Remember, this is a mid-range chip. If it actually beats G80/G92 by a margin it surpasses the performance of previous mid-range chips, comparing generation to generation.
The dual-chip is the high-end. And I don't like his phrasing, because he seems to leave this part out. RV770 is mid-range, it never was anything else, while 4870X2 is high-end.

//Andreas

From what I've read/understood they have (although it was speculation). That's part of the reason why I posted it.

In this casе HD4870X2 will not have any chances to beat GT200 .

I wouldn't be so sure of that just yet. Lets look at this from another point of view. Is it really necessary to beat the card if frame rates in nearly all games (at higher resolutions) are above playable at a lower price point? IMO, if a situation like that exists then it shouldn't matter.

[Macadamia]

By that definition posts like this would also apply. As stated in that post all is taken with a grain of salt. I believe you have forgotten that most information in this thread has been speculation.

Yes, but there is no need to weight speculation according to who's important...

It's a little hard to swallow that the 8800GT vs the 9800GTX is really ~30%, I thought it was about 20% max.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Yes, but there is no need to weight speculation according to who's important...

It's a little hard to swallow that the 8800GT vs the 9800GTX is really ~30%, I thought it was about 20% max.

This is were comprehension is needed. It's not about the person. This is where your post is incoherent. It's about what's being speculated. Places like VR-Zone are also pointing in that direction. In the future it's better to look at the overall picture and not view speculation based on someone's importance. Had you done so, your would have heeded to my warning in the very post your quoted.

[Macadamia]

This is were comprehension is needed. It's not about the person. This is where your post is incoherent. It's about what's being speculated. Places like VR-Zone are also pointing in that direction. In the future it's better to look at the overall picture and not view speculation based on someone's importance. Had you done so, your would have heeded to my warning in the very post your quoted.

But-but-SNAP
That's a far gap. Esp. considering the GT200 is estimated to more than double 2 G92/G80s, 55nm or not.


I wouldn't say speculating is wrong, even though I do frown on one-line throwaways about such things to drive the masses up and/or, unless it comes from people like CJ

VR-Zone? A mix of good, bad and ugly. Flooded with the pile of sensationalism that I so despise.

[Eastcoasthandle]

But-but-SNAP
That's a far gap. Esp. considering the GT200 is estimated to more than double 2 G92/G80s, 55nm or not.


I wouldn't say speculating is wrong, even though I do frown on one-line throwaways about such things to drive the masses up and/or, unless it comes from people like CJ

VR-Zone? A mix of good, bad and ugly. Flooded with the pile of sensationalism that I so despise.

But CJ is saying that the RV770 will be faster then 9800GTX by 25%. See, more and more sources are pointing in that direction. Are the sources correct? We will soon see once it's released. Is is still sensationalism or is it a problem with just you? It's never wise to only rely on one source to formulate an opinion be it true or otherwise.