Phenom 9500 w/ MSI K9A2 Platinum

[Daveburt714]

Hey, keep the support up for the board you guys. Sorry about this, but its best this way.

[see my next post]

Not sure what happened KTE, but I wanted to say thanks for all your help with this board and Phenom in general... I'm a Phenom "Old Timer " too and I wouldn't understand it nearly as well without all your help....

If your going to continue your testing and post results on another site, I'd appreciate it if you'd have one of your XS homies send me a PM and let me know where to look...

Either Way, I wish you the best in life!
"Live Long and Prosper, Tye"

L8r...... Dave

[Mathos]

Well, my guess would be he finally got pissed off with the lack of proper support from MSI, or ended up having issues again with the processor/board. If that were the case I don't blame him for saying to hell with it, and getting off here. Don't think he'd have got the 9850 if it weren't for us here encouraging him to. Otherwise his work probably needs more time, and he can't afford to be wanting to mess around and read here.

[Rammsteiner]

Well, my guess would be he finally got pissed off with the lack of proper support from MSI, or ended up having issues again with the processor/board. If that were the case I don't blame him for saying to hell with it, and getting off here. Don't think he'd have got the 9850 if it weren't for us here encouraging him to. Otherwise his work probably needs more time, and he can't afford to be wanting to mess around and read here.

But only that wouldnt really mean he would just burn all bridges.

In the other thread he said he had issues with PM system, he also told in some other thread about it. Maybe it's just the whole package. Or too much dedication to said hardware and that amount of dedication turned into disappointment due to bad support, PM messing stuff up etc and he doesnt want to do any of it for a while?

Maybe due to the dedication personal problems.

Anyway, thx for everything thus far KTE! I wish you gl and of course hope to see you back at some point again

[Daveburt714]

Hey Folks...

I've started playing with Bios Verisons on the K9A2. Version 1.4 is very solid, and the fact that it doesn't have NB/IMC Multis is not that big a deal since you can crank the NB by using the HT Ref clock (10x on a 9850)...

The one bad thing I've noticed about 1.4 is that you can't really lower the V's on the CPU, NB or Memory using 1.4. Personally, I really don't think the NB/IMC needs 1.3v's to run stable, nor does the memory need 2.25v's.

The 1.3 Beta gives much more control over Voltages/Multis (Via P-States), and seems to do OK with the 9850...

When I flashed it I used all the switches /p /b /n /c. That resulted in AMD NB being set back to "Version B2" and probably went back to old DMI's etc....

Achim:Guess your the Only K9A2/Phenom Guru left..
I really don't want to kill my board, but I'm thinking If I flash the 1.4 and then revert to 1.3B without the switches, I might get better results (IE not changing the NB Drivers/DMI/sub commands)...

Before I do it, I'd just like to get an experts opinion... Is this asking for trouble?

[Aussie FX]

Not sure what happened KTE, but I wanted to say thanks for all your help with this board and Phenom in general... I'm a Phenom "Old Timer " too and I wouldn't understand it nearly as well without all your help....

If your going to continue your testing and post results on another site, I'd appreciate it if you'd have one of your XS homies send me a PM and let me know where to look...

Either Way, I wish you the best in life!
"Live Long and Prosper, Tye"

L8r...... Dave

Seconded.

Nice post Dave.

[Mathos]

On a lighter note. I received my 9850BE(JAAFB AA 0811CPGW) yesterday, as well as the 4gb(2x2) Mushkin DDR2 1066 ram.

Have already installed both, and burning them in to give the TIM some time to set. Haven't had a single issue yet on bios p.0J. Haven't had time to try any of the other BIOSs yet. Think about all I've had to do was set the Ram timings to spec in bios. still can't get the tRAS to set to 15 like it's suppose to be though, it only has the option for auto and that sets it to 24.

[VVJ]

Daveburt714,
I'm about to implement overclocking capabilities in my CBId BE project for Family 10h processors. BIOS will be useless soon! LOL! For the moment the fourth beta version is officially available to download.

[Ben_Brown]

Daveburt714,
I'm about to implement overclocking capabilities in my CBId BE project for Family 10h processors. BIOS will be useless soon! LOL! For the moment the fourth beta version is officially available to download.

Alas I am too lazy to search for it, so could you supply us with a link?

[VVJ]

Ben_Brown, here you are http://cbid.amdclub.ru/files/cbidblack.zip
I’m also addicted with thermal power estimation for Phenom processors. I worked with KTE in this field.

[Ben_Brown]

Ben_Brown, here you are http://cbid.amdclub.ru/files/cbidblack.zip
I’m also addicted with thermal power estimation for Phenom processors. I worked with KTE in this field.

Thanks!!

[jonspd]

VVJ thanks for the update and added support to phenom in your program keep us updated with any new releases...


KTE knows we all appreciate his help very greatly. side note I'm always at ocforums.com BTW... come visit me there if you like your presents will be missed by me for sure.


dave it is not recommended to flash without setting everything back to stock

[MonsterMash]

Hi,
some one can make a list of all the bios realesed since now? Official, beta and mod, with a little description, and if possible also the link to download it?

Thank you very much.

P.S. How can i reset the settings of the AOD? Every time i run it, it try to apply the settings of the last time, and they crashes the system... I tryed also to uninstall and reinstall it, but nothing...

[jonspd]

Hi,
some one can make a list of all the bios realesed since now? Official, beta and mod, with a little description, and if possible also the link to download it?

Thank you very much.

P.S. How can i reset the settings of the AOD? Every time i run it, it try to apply the settings of the last time, and they crashes the system... I tryed also to uninstall and reinstall it, but nothing...

if you search thru this thread you can find a link to them all.

you may need to delete the info in your registry.

[Daveburt714]

VVJ:Thanks for your work on CBID, looks like it will be a really nice alternative to AOD once you get it all up and running!

Jonspd:I took a chance and flashed from 1.4 to 1.1B3 without the switches... It still reverted back to NV Version B2 which was not what I was hoping for, but at least it didn't cause any problems..

Monstermash:On AOD, try going into "preferences" and under "profile" select "default". I've never had any luck trying to save/load profiles using AOD. You might also want to make sure that the "Automatically Run" box is not checked under MISC.

Just curious as to what bios version most of you are using...
Personally I keep finding myself going back to 1.4, the 1.5x Beta didn't seem to offer any benefits, and 1.1B3 just seems to give rare crashes...

I still can't get my OCZ Reapers to run at 1066, but they're not TRUE 1066 they use EPP settings...

[MonsterMash]

if you search thru this thread you can find a link to them all.

you may need to delete the info in your registry.

I searched a little, but i could not find what i'm looking for:

Which is the best bios version to overclock a phenom 9850 with windows vista 64 (i read that is most difficult to overclock with a 64 bit OS with some bios version)?

Thank you all.

Bye

[Mathos]

[B][I]VVJ:Just curious as to what bios version most of you are using... Personally I keep finding myself going back to 1.4, the 1.5x Beta didn't seem to offer any benefits, and 1.1B3 just seems to give rare crashes...

I still can't get my OCZ Reapers to run at 1066, but they're not TRUE 1066 they use EPP settings...

I'm still running bios P.0J. I seem to be one of the few that never had issues with it. I don't think there are going to be any official Jedec 1066 specs. They treat DDR2 just as they did DDR1. Anything over DDR400, DDR2-800, is considered OCed or EPP memory.

I can't complain about the Mushkin 2x2 4gb kit I got, runs at 1066 5-5-5-15 cr2 at 2.05v without an issue. Haven't tried any other timings yet. Had to put em in the last two slots though. The HS on em is too tall and won't fit under the from of the ZT Nirvana.

[Ben_Brown]

I searched a little, but i could not find what i'm looking for:

Which is the best bios version to overclock a phenom 9850 with windows vista 64 (i read that is most difficult to overclock with a 64 bit OS with some bios version)?

Thank you all.

Bye

The following link has the BETA and Performance BIOS's. As far as which one is the best, well let me know when you find out.

http://www.msi-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=35629

[jonspd]

I have always liked 1.13b but some say POD (I think it is) is a good one also

[batmang]

I thought this was interesting. I was messing around with the 1.4 bios... and from what I can tell its garbage. I have my 9600 @ 2.5GHz using AOD, Turbo button RED. I knew something was fishey when I ran some Crysis benchmarks:



Needless to say, I'm back on 1.13B.

[Daveburt714]

Batmang:That's probably because your running a 96BE and the1.4 Bios is applying the TLB fix. I haven't seen that kind of hit with 1.4 and the 9850...

Don't get me wrong, I'm kind of fond of 1.1B3 myself..
But the P-States thing can be a little confusing for a rookie...

Just didn't want folks with a B3 stepping to be afraid of version 1.4.
I don't see any performance hit with it on my chip. It's actually very stable and easy to use with a B3.

[batmang]

Yeah, I'm saving for a 9850

[Daveburt714]

Just thought I would post this, actually, I'm pretty proud of myself..

This ss is actually stable, using the 1.1B3 bios and a 9850 (I'm sure there are better B3's but this one works pretty good!)



Still tweaking, Hopefully I can get it a little better...

[msimax]

any winflash utilities for this board? cause i dont have a floppy or usb stick handy

[SocketMan]

any winflash utilities for this board? cause i dont have a floppy or usb stick handy

I used the MSI's "Live update 3" and the board is indeed alive (after Live u. 3),
It uses IE,firefox didn't
work .

[msimax]

I used the MSI's "Live update 3" and the board is indeed alive (after Live u. 3),
It uses IE,firefox didn't
work .

i mean somthing to flash beta bios. and i only used windows to flash bios for like 3 years and never had a problem, just make sure all settings are stock.