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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphiel View Post
    Ok, I can accept that but that leaves me with a single question:

    How is the platform dedicated for overclockers any different from the mainstream one?

    If it only means worse support, something like XE vs mainstream CPU, and X38 vs P35 chipsets, then I totally understand.

    But this sounds more like X1 CPU and X2 chipset can't OC, but Y1 CPU and Y2 chipset can. It sounds more like a choice, or leaving out features in the mainstream platform that prevents OC, than anything else.

    I could miss something and probably certainly have, but I don't understand this.

    Blauhungs posts certainly didn't convince me, that this isn't anything other than a choice, or willing lack of support.


    In moving the entire northbridge on die, Intel has a way to reduce cost and power usage on mainstream platforms, something which 98% of the users of those systems will greatly appreciate. Because of this, there are no longer levers for this community to raise clock speeds.

    because of this fact, and the want to not alienate this community. Intel developed the Bloomfield based platforms specifically for this community. Everyone else keeps seeing this as the other way around. As if they could have extended the Bloomfield platform down to the mainstream end, where the features wouldn't be useful to anyone other then those who are looking for overclocking potential on the cheap, and to sell this platform to that market they would have to operate at somewhat of a loss in profitability. This community is the only reason there even is a Bloomfield platform. Otherwise Tylersburg would be completely limited to MP and DP platforms only and there would be absolutely no OC'ing at all. It is due to the fact that Intel does want to keep this community support that they tweaked their server chipset to support the wants of the people here.

    Just keep it in mind, there was a choice made. That choice was not to screw people out of their hobby. The choice was to continue actively supporting this community with the best possible systems for getting the best performance from your system. They created a platform based on high performance server components that has the ability to overclock, 3 channel memory controllers, and support 2x16 PCIe 2.0


    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphiel View Post
    The side effect that the community uses to raise the normal levers etc... Well, those are obviously compensated for in the enthusiast platform. Why couldn't Intel make the mainstream CPU and chipset have the same features as with the enthusiast one (to a certain degree, it doesn't have to be all or nothing)?
    Really, that would have involved having 2 separate platforms that operate at about the same stock performance but target 2 portions of a given market with one of those portions only taking up 2% of the market, and the platform you market to the smaller portion costing more for you to produce. If you were a large company what decision would you have made?
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