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    and MF/RF are exactly the same so whats the point?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stelios View Post
    And this is why you should buy a rampage ...

    PL is 9 with CL5 memories ... and i can also use 8 when running at CL4.
    Of course it can do more in my cascade . I have done tests at 590+ 3dstable . Spi can run much higher .
    still very nice. I have read the MF/RF overvolts the ram Everest says it overvolts by .04v is this correct?
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    Mine was even 0.08 as I needed to set 1.92 to get 2.0... ( all taking into account if we trust the readouts of the bios ) PLL voltage overvolted on my board with 1.2, FSB Termination voltage undervolted with 0.07
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    Quote Originally Posted by trt740 View Post
    still very nice. I have read the MF/RF overvolts the ram Everest says it overvolts by .04v is this correct?
    My Maximus extreme (ddr3) was overvolting vdimm about 0.07 . I don't know about Maximus Formula though .
    Now , the Rampage formula (original & not modded rampage) overvolts about 0.02-0.04v

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    mine overvolts ram by .09

    why the hell is there such a variance of over-volt?!?!?
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    my ambiant air is rather warm today 25c but the temps are not to bad considering , once the AC is back up and running temps should be nice and low.



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    Not much of a difference running PL6



    try for PL5 next

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    grnfinger, looks like you got your temps under control :-) good to see. i had problems getting pl5 w/o cas4 just fyi... actually i cant get pl5 without cas4. also i found that just clocking my ram up to 1200mhz resulted in nearly the same bandwidth @ pl6 but with slightly worse latency. you running just the pa120.3 or both rads? it seems that the voltage required and temps are pretty much EXACTLY what my cpu does.
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    Just got the pa120.3 in at the moment, temps are decent now, even better when the AC is back up
    No room for a internal rad so I cant run dual, wife gave me the "look" when I suggested a new Mountain Mods case.
    I'll have to get her drunk and try again
    PL5 was a no post "det dram" hang, going to play with timing and see what I can squeeze out of 1133MHz PL6, if I can get Latency unde 50.0 I will be happy, odd thing is if I set FSB 450 and 8 multi the box wont boot I get
    "USB OVER VOLT" computer will restart in 15 seconds....... any ideas on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Just got the pa120.3 in at the moment, temps are decent now, even better when the AC is back up
    No room for a internal rad so I cant run dual, wife gave me the "look" when I suggested a new Mountain Mods case.
    I'll have to get her drunk and try again
    PL5 was a no post "det dram" hang, going to play with timing and see what I can squeeze out of 1133MHz PL6, if I can get Latency unde 50.0 I will be happy, odd thing is if I set FSB 450 and 8 multi the box wont boot I get
    "USB OVER VOLT" computer will restart in 15 seconds....... any ideas on this?
    71-72C still seems high for that voltage and ambient. Why not run the 2nd rad externally with a rad box???
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    Already doing that with my PA120.3 cant add another no place to hang it.
    I have a Thermaltake Soprano case so room is not abundant

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    i guess the best thing to do is take off the rad box and start making a water-cooling mess that takes up way too much space. then the wife will suggest to YOU to get the case

    temps are about right though, you will see another drop of about 4-5c when you add the other rad. try 437fsb which puts the ram at 1165 pl6 1.481v bios (1.464 after vdroop) i was still able to get decent temps and the boost should reduce your latency to 49.7 or so. 8 multi required 333 strap for me pl7 only and clock twister to auto.

    Quote Originally Posted by WFO View Post
    71-72C still seems high for that voltage and ambient. Why not run the 2nd rad externally with a rad box???
    it seems grnfinger's and my cpu (sold grnfinger's cpu to him) run pretty much the exact same so i would say that the temps are spot on.
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    Thanks for the tip m8



    priming the new clock shortly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Thanks for the tip m8
    priming the new clock shortly
    is this pl6 or 7? @ 6 i seem to have better results, but your timings are tighter

    this i am not understanding.

    time to work on my gfx cards again... (has nothing to do with this, just fugger's ocz contest... check it out... PARTICIPATE because there is no better place that #1)
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    its at 7 with pull ins enabled, going to test PL6 pull ins disabled, I find running with them disabled I get better bandwidth.
    I have a nice 3870x2 here but NO water block yet, still in transit I guess, should have had you ship it heh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    its at 7 with pull ins enabled, going to test PL6 pull ins disabled, I find running with them disabled I get better bandwidth.
    I have a nice 3870x2 here but NO water block yet, still in transit I guess, should have had you ship it heh
    interesting to see how this is going to turn out. i just ran 21988 3dmark06 5 min ago... i wonder what you are going to get with the waterblocks. but also im clocked up a bit right now

    i think i need 1 or 2 more fsb for 22k on 7.12 drivers... or perhaps go to 7.11 drivers (but dragon test becomes unstable )

    ive been holding out for the next gen of gpus from ati... i can wait though because nothing out there that has come out has been an "upgrade" so to speak
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    Curious as to what's the best OC with stock cooling people have been able to get out of the Q6600? I'm at 2994Mhz right now, no real tweaks in the settings, and it idles in the low 30's, low 40's under load.

    RAM right now is my weak link (667 stuff)........ and I have not tried to take the CPU any higher than what it's at.

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    Trying to get my settings OCCT/Prime95 blended stable....I'm testing between 475x8 vs 423x9......trying to find that trade off between stability and performance.

    What tRD pull-in settings are you guys running? I'm testing tRD 7 with the first phase enabled on channel A and B.....

    Another thing:
    Has anyone tested this value in conjunction with tighted tRD values?
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    All,
    There is a new Rampage Formula bios on the ASUS FTP site:
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    Quote Originally Posted by EOD View Post
    All,
    There is a new Rampage Formula bios on the ASUS FTP site:
    401
    Very nice find

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    Quote Originally Posted by EOD View Post
    All,
    There is a new Rampage Formula bios on the ASUS FTP site:
    401
    Thank you sir! ANyone tried yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX View Post
    Looks like the ASUS engineers have been busy. I'm going to wait to test the new Rampage until tomorrow.....
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    No real changes that I can see? Perhaps some 45nm clocking enhancements? I wont know until the Egg ships out my new X3350...
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    Great, that's exactly what I've being waiting for weeks.
    Both 1201 and 0401 new bios are out for MF and RF respectively from the Asus FTP.
    But I think I'll wait for Asus support site to upload the files with descriptions that states what changes have been made.
    And please remember to share your results after flash to either new MF/RF bios.
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    Damn! Now I'm really torn... I flashed back to the Maximus waiting for BIOS updates, but now I'm feeling the urge to go back to the Rampage BIOS. I'm running 1201 right now, (seems to be running smooth, but then again I'm only running it at 4.2 GHz) but will probably flash back to the Rampage later this week.
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