Innovatek? the best? cool . . .

[tiro_uspsss]

HEY! I know... I've got a couple of dead DDC 2's laying around I can put in serial, that might be low flow enough.

mmmm *scratches head*.. that might just do it!

[HotGore]

I think I can safely say the G-Flow is a loser. I can pretty confidently compare this rig to this rig. Idle temps alone, the G-flow loses. The G-flow is idling @ 43ºC and loads @ 61ºC (25ºC Amb) totally passive. With 3 Sunon 120x38 fans @ ~7v, 39ºC Idle-51ºC Load. These are both Preshott builds that are not OC'd at all, although I am thinking about trying the 524.

I hate to say this but in all seriousness have you tried it with a low flow pump...just to prove him wrong?

[cegras]

Nae: Sounds good, let me try it .. I was actually staring at his post for a while, and I kept thinking to myself "gee, this guy is right, but I know he's wrong .. " and finally, blink! Epiphany.

DarthBeavis, try summing up this explanation:

Basically, his calculations and reasoning are correct, if he assumes the itty bit of water inside the block and the block itself is an isolated system. He should be in fact treating the all of the water in the loop as the total amount of water that should be calculated with q=mct, not the little bit of water.

Higher flow = more passing through rad per unit time = more heat dissipated = lower 'stabilized' water temperatures = lower T2 by the equation.

Low flow = less heat dissipated = higher equilibration temperature with the block = higher cpu temperature.

I'm sure it gets a lot more complicated than that, but I'm guessing that's the gist of it.

[Waterlogged]

I hate to say this but in all seriousness have you tried it with a low flow pump...just to prove him wrong?

Which loop and how low flow you thinking?

[DarthBeavis]

OMG . . .you guys have to head over and check this thread out . . .lol

I do not understand a damn thing about what is being said. hell, I can dissassemble and reassemble a multi-phasic flux capacitor before understanding the n3rd speak

well, I am a programmer by trade not an engineer

[NaeKuh]

oh dayam GRIM laid the smackdown.



OMG that pink stuff is solder!??!?!?!

feel free to post that pic in there for reference DB.

[aspire.comptech]

That was EPIC!

[Giannis86]

it doesnt matter how much info you throw at him..he will do anything to just try and convince you that his point is right, just because he bought an expensive block...
even if you test the block and compare it to a supreme/fuzion , one way or another he would say that the test was manipulated (used a "high" flow pump )

some people at forums are just a complete joke...i once had someone (in NFS forums) say that i was cheating and then say that i cant be getting such high scores cause he had about 4000posts in the forum and i had just 10...thats just pathetic

[IanY]

At the rate we are going, there should be a PhD watercooling program at CalTech and MIT. You don't get to watercool unless you write a 500 page dissertation on how to be obnoxious with the mathematical equations.

Like I always say, it doesn't matter if your job is to cool the nuclear reactors at Los Alamos. It has absolutely no practical bearing on cooling a silly little computer. What looks like poop and smells like poop, usually is... No theoretical expertise needed.

[Xilikon]

At the rate we are going, there should be a PhD watercooling program at CalTech and MIT. You don't get to watercool unless you write a 500 page dissertation on how to be obnoxious with the mathematical equations.

Like I always say, it doesn't matter if your job is to cool the nuclear reactors at Los Alamos. It has absolutely no practical bearing on cooling a silly little computer. What looks like poop and smells like poop, usually is... No theoretical expertise needed.

Guess I should apply to MIT and get a degree on Watercooling engineering

[IanY]

Guess I should apply to MIT and get a degree on Watercooling engineering

Actually, MIT does have a design your own major program lol Minor in computer gaming lol

[DarthBeavis]

By the way . . .he quoted Danger Den guys saying this and that . . .well. . .let's just say he is taking liberties . . .

[NaeKuh]

connor0007 Today, 06:55 AM Post #42


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QUOTE(GrimReaperGuy @ Apr 30 2008, 10:02 PM)


- Summer Glau



WTF?? umm she's hot and all but for some reason i just dont think you are her... haha i think the grim reaper... GUY... part gives it away.

sorry i know this is off topic i just thought i would post cause it's late and i really couldnt comprehend anything else in your post haha. not to mean it didnt make sense i'm just fried

This post has been edited by connor0007: Today, 06:55 AM



That cracks me up! ROFL. Thats the exact same stuff DB said when he read that post.

[nikhsub1]

Wow this guy is totally retarded. IDK why ya'll are even bothering with such a bafoon.

[NaeKuh]

Wow this guy is totally retarded. IDK why ya'll are even bothering with such a bafoon.

we need a good laugh for the week?

[Xilikon]

"Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity."

That's what is happening here when he is trying to be smart :p I agree with NaeKuh, we need some good laugh for the week

[nikhsub1]

OMG that has been in my sig forever...

[cegras]

No worries, two other people went into the thread and ripped up his post.

[Waterlogged]

No worries, two other people went into the thread and ripped up his post.

That doesn't mean he'll relent. I personally hope he doesn't, well, at least for another few days anyway.

[smee]

Dude, that guy over there at the "sli forums" is so freaking retarded. He has no clue what he's talking about at all.

I'm 15, and he's probably way older, and I can CLEARLY see many flaws in his theory's.
He probably works for Innovatek.

Aluminum = CRAP, bad bad bad.
Copper = BEST, excellent heat transfer.

I just registered over there and later on today when I have more time I'm gonna post at him.

This weekend i'm getting my wc loop up, finally , I'll show him some numbers.....
He probably doesn't even know what a fuzion is.

[smee]

Quote from the OP of the thread at SLI forum:

Becasue they're only assumptions, I don't expect people to get precisely what ever temps I mentioned. I've also skipped a whole host of things that I thought would complicate the issue beyond the understandings of all members of this forum.

Oh so he's better than us?

[Waterlogged]

Someone please point him to this review.

http://translate.google.com/translat...3DNsx%26sa%3DN

Then show him some simple °C/W graphs for various components and have him try to explain why the the thermal transfer is always worse the lower the flow rate is.

[Xilikon]

Someone please point him to this review.

http://translate.google.com/translat...3DNsx%26sa%3DN

Then show him some simple °C/W graphs for various components and have him try to explain why the the thermal transfer is always worse the lower the flow rate is.

It's not worth trying since he will eventually attack the review for the flawed theory.

The more I read, the more I consider him as a Innovatek shill...

[Sparky]

You can only take a horse to the pond; you can't make it drink....

Duh of course we aren't gonna drink. I prefer to drink water thank you very much, not some innovatek fluid!

[DarthBeavis]

That thread is great! If we had hawt CHickx we would have all the makings of beauty and teh geek . . .lol