You're right about the NB voltage, but I haven't had to mess with the HT. I Fold@Home at 2.5GHz (239 x 10.5) and leave the HT multi @ 9x without issue. Vcore is +.15v & NB is +.10v.Originally Posted by Extelleron
You're right about the NB voltage, but I haven't had to mess with the HT. I Fold@Home at 2.5GHz (239 x 10.5) and leave the HT multi @ 9x without issue. Vcore is +.15v & NB is +.10v.
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dont worry, i just generated a spare myself... an hour after removing the heatpipe and reworking the mounting for the sinks.. "Pfffssssss" (off) *smoke*... gfx waterblock spring a leak, rip pcie slot 1My hardware graveyard has exceeded capacity so therefore no more soldiering on items cept for repairrest of the boards still going, but i lost my 3870, so its now x1800xt time on 4x
In other news: the pcie gfx power cables on the tagan U22's dont reach the 2nd slot
LCB9E 0641 APMW @3100 1.65V Decapped ~50c orthos load, TDX+House Rad (passive!)+Eheim 1250, Abit AX8, 2*1gig Crucial PC4000 @ 221 3-3-3-8-1T
X4 940BE @ 3640 @1.475, Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD3P, 4x G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-2GBPK @ 1110mhz 5-5-5-15 @1.8v, 3870XT
Cheffy you just scared anyone that was considering watercooling from even trying it hahah. No but seriously sry you lost that card man may it RIP.
ASROCK 970 Extreme 3 // FX-6200 @ 4.65 (245x? 64bit os) 1.45v,2200 nb/HT //8GB Mushkin DDR3 @833 8-8-8-24 cmd1 1.55v // HD7850// Silverstone 650w // ~32inch portal // WDgreen and blue // Kingston v300 120GB SSD // watercooled with Swiftech storm rev2, Fez 240 , 655 pump not packed into a Corsair Obsidian 650D///
Its entirely my fault:
the block had been leaking ever so slightly from 1 barb for a while but was so little i didnt care, moving everything about yesterday losened the clip and the tiny tiny leak (so little it jsut caused a crusting of gunk arround the edge of tube) turned into a far more substantial leak, but i never leak tested while re-filling last night and just bolted it together and hit GO.
on pulling it apart to find out what caused the leak i was reminded that when i last got some new tubing for my koolance i ordered the 6mm OD pipes (as suited for the older PC2 systems) but was sent the 6mm ID stuff as suited to PC3+ and never returned it... turned out i had used some of that stuff from the gpu block
heres a lesson kids: if it leaks, find out why. if you move it about - leak test properly.
Back on subject:
I now have a board i will be replacing when pay day comes - that still works. i think i know someone with a surplus 3800+ so i can work on the ocp modi think it could be done with just a pencil and DMM
LCB9E 0641 APMW @3100 1.65V Decapped ~50c orthos load, TDX+House Rad (passive!)+Eheim 1250, Abit AX8, 2*1gig Crucial PC4000 @ 221 3-3-3-8-1T
X4 940BE @ 3640 @1.475, Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD3P, 4x G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-2GBPK @ 1110mhz 5-5-5-15 @1.8v, 3870XT
Yay!!
FINALLY my 2*2gb Dominators arrived. Been waiting for them for over a month now.
They are compatible with AX78 at preconfigured values (when choosing memclk 1066MHz), memclk 1066MHz, cl5 7 7 27 or whatever they are, but... ...they wont get past dma updating screen @ 1066Mhz cl 5 5 5 15 2t 2.1v trfc195ns. Just managed to test superficially yesterday, so more testing is needed.
Got a picture of the insides of my rig before putting my new ram inside (if anyone are interested), got more pics, but only managed to upload this before imageshack fkd up yesterday:
Nice and tidy........
@Jethro: Tested your X2 6000+ yet?
looks very nice mate! dont you find the elbows hurt performance??
LCB9E 0641 APMW @3100 1.65V Decapped ~50c orthos load, TDX+House Rad (passive!)+Eheim 1250, Abit AX8, 2*1gig Crucial PC4000 @ 221 3-3-3-8-1T
X4 940BE @ 3640 @1.475, Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD3P, 4x G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-2GBPK @ 1110mhz 5-5-5-15 @1.8v, 3870XT
Haven't tested without, so actually i don't know. Probably a little restrictive, but the mcp655 pump is pretty effective, so i don't think it will be a problem
Not bad Likmark, no elbow's here just 3/16 thick 1/2" tubing that is very resisant to kinks
FYI Paypal just cleared today so no beastly cpu till next week!
ASROCK 970 Extreme 3 // FX-6200 @ 4.65 (245x? 64bit os) 1.45v,2200 nb/HT //8GB Mushkin DDR3 @833 8-8-8-24 cmd1 1.55v // HD7850// Silverstone 650w // ~32inch portal // WDgreen and blue // Kingston v300 120GB SSD // watercooled with Swiftech storm rev2, Fez 240 , 655 pump not packed into a Corsair Obsidian 650D
I am having a lot of trouble with my 9850BE. EVerything was great with my PHenom 9500 OC'd to 2480mhz and my x2 4000+ and my x2 6000+ Oc'd to 3.35ghz, but this is a nightmare so far. I have reinstalled windows XP today 4x. I am going with just drivers and minimum programs to run these stress tests.
My PHenom even fails stress test (AOD and P95 4 threads) within 1 second a full stock speeds. I lowered my RAM down to 667mhz and the NB to 1600mhz and it fails a second. To be more specific, P95 fails 3 of 4 threads in 1 second. I just got this Abit board replaced yesterday due to a bad flash, so this is a new one. Sigh....
Specs in my sig.
Reponse to below: Hmmm...where IS my sig?! I just updated it. I am posting my specs:
Main Rig: Ph 9850BE, Thermalright Ultima90, AX78, OCZ Reaper PC26400 2 x 1GB. RAID 0 2xWD 320GB B3s, WD 750GB, Corsair HX620W, XFX GF 8800GT, XtremeMusic, Intel Pro1000 Nic.
6000+ working fine! PWM temps are now 55c Load @ 1.5v Currently at 300x11 = 3300 cant get anything higher very stable yet. Starting to think the vcore stability just sucks on this board. Both these chips just want to much juice for moderate clocks. Gonna try some better board cooling asap. Cant believe how useless this board is over 300FSB. Something isnt right yet!
Good news is with this new CPU my ram is in a more friendly range and now runs 4 4 4 12 and im breaking 10k mb's!
Last edited by Jethro; 04-29-2008 at 01:48 PM.
ASROCK 970 Extreme 3 // FX-6200 @ 4.65 (245x? 64bit os) 1.45v,2200 nb/HT //8GB Mushkin DDR3 @833 8-8-8-24 cmd1 1.55v // HD7850// Silverstone 650w // ~32inch portal // WDgreen and blue // Kingston v300 120GB SSD // watercooled with Swiftech storm rev2, Fez 240 , 655 pump not packed into a Corsair Obsidian 650D
I'm testing a X2 4450e in the AX78, going good so far
you guys think X3 would be a good match for this board, a OC'd X3?
Jethro:
im on my 2nd board now, seems very much like my last, except pwm temps are much lower despite non modded. not tried above my previous stable settings yet, but i will.
other good news, 4*1gb sticks hasnt touched stability. mem volts holding fine, timings unchanged (other than to allow the lower ability of new pair, maxed them on their own, added the old pair works fine.)
does the board allow you better cpu clock using higher multi? what sort of trouble you got in the 300mhz+ range, maybe i can try and duplicate.
sounds like you might just have bad luck, but if you can check the required volts for say, 3200, 3225, 3250 and 3275 can check to see if it seems to be scaling like my chips all have - which would indicate the cpu limit rather than board.
Gentarkin: I think an X3 is probably the best match for the board, there are (as you can see) scattered issues with the pwm and the 125w+ cpu's. the X3's (get a B3 stepping not an oem surplus B2) are all well below this level, and the board should have the muscle to push them to a good clock. added to that the low combined price for such a setup (only 780g would be nicer) and.. you get the idea.
Phenom support seems solid on the whole from the reports i have seen and the boards are well rounded in other respects also.
Last edited by Cheffy; 04-29-2008 at 02:07 PM.
LCB9E 0641 APMW @3100 1.65V Decapped ~50c orthos load, TDX+House Rad (passive!)+Eheim 1250, Abit AX8, 2*1gig Crucial PC4000 @ 221 3-3-3-8-1T
X4 940BE @ 3640 @1.475, Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD3P, 4x G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-2GBPK @ 1110mhz 5-5-5-15 @1.8v, 3870XT
yeah Im wondering...if the X3 8650 can hit any decent clocks like in the 2.7-2.8ghz range at least...that would be wonderful cuz its only a 165$ chip. I am on a Opteron 165 @ 2.93ghz right now and Ive been tempted for a very long time to go to phenom but Ive just been waiting for a awesome combo of cpu and board to come along, now I gotta see if its worth to wait for 45nm and a 780a board or something....GRRRR!!!! lol I wonder if 45nm will be drop in to AX78 , if it is then I would have no issues with getting the current setup I mentioned....
WooT my new chip has unlocked this board after all! I take back my FSB whining!
327 x 10 1.45v ROCK solid
1300HTT / 1100 Rams over 10k mb's
There is some clocking here after all!
ASROCK 970 Extreme 3 // FX-6200 @ 4.65 (245x? 64bit os) 1.45v,2200 nb/HT //8GB Mushkin DDR3 @833 8-8-8-24 cmd1 1.55v // HD7850// Silverstone 650w // ~32inch portal // WDgreen and blue // Kingston v300 120GB SSD // watercooled with Swiftech storm rev2, Fez 240 , 655 pump not packed into a Corsair Obsidian 650D
Oh yea, the board is great if you have the CPU to go with it. Definitely won't run into an FSB problem with this Phenom, but I'm happy with it at 2.5 even if the PWM is a little toasty.
I'd imagine the X3's would work well with this board if they're anything like the Phenoms. Except for the gentleman having issues with his 9850, everything seems to run quite well.
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Hello from Germany
I have one question. MSI removed all NB-Multi Options in their Bios Versions. I search a new Board that allow me to change the NB-Multi for Ocing my AMD Phenom 9650. I have an 11,5 Multi and need Options to reduce the NB-Multi.
best regards and thanks in advance.
Chris
Here's a review comparing X2 difference between 780G, 770 (AX78) and 790FX http://www.cpu3d.com/index.php?optio...mid=54&limit=1
I need an answer pls
I do not have cpu-nb fid options in either bios 12 or in beta bios 13a. Appareantly there is supposed to be cpu-nb fid in beta bios 13a.....
damn, also you expect that the Beta Bios 13a include maybe the cpu-nb fid?
Redid my radiator shroud yesterday and moved a fan Directly over the PWM. Stability as went up tremendously as a result! CPU load temps on the highest temp core are 43c @ 1.5v. (33c ambient)
Can bench up to 338 x 10 now! Board craps out > 340 so far. After folding all night PWM temps before fan were 58c now with fan its around 50c.
What i found in my case is that if the PWM hits 60c or more the board shuts down!
This board is really fast @ 330+ i must say. Breaking 11k 06' untweaked, 130k+ Aquamark, 10500mb's / 39.2latency and 25sec super pi.
Last edited by Jethro; 05-01-2008 at 09:14 AM.
ASROCK 970 Extreme 3 // FX-6200 @ 4.65 (245x? 64bit os) 1.45v,2200 nb/HT //8GB Mushkin DDR3 @833 8-8-8-24 cmd1 1.55v // HD7850// Silverstone 650w // ~32inch portal // WDgreen and blue // Kingston v300 120GB SSD // watercooled with Swiftech storm rev2, Fez 240 , 655 pump not packed into a Corsair Obsidian 650D
I am currently using the beta bios, there is no cpu-nb fid in it. Sorry
ok thx
so, that probably means I should purchase highest multiplier I can, if its not a BE right?
so that the NB stays at a lower clock? translating to higher core OC potential?
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