FOXCONN Launches BLACKOPS Intel X48 Enthusiast Motherboard

[Mungri]

Well I need a 500 FSB to run my Ram at 1000 Mhz along with my CPU at 4.25 Ghz

The multiplier needs dropping yes, but at least both my CPU and ram are able to perform at their best.

Alternatively I can use a 450-475 FSB with a 9x multiplier, but slower ram. But I like it all going as fast as it possibly can, isnt that what overclocking is about? i'll happily take a board that can overclock over 500 FSB then one that costs 2.5 times as much and can barely get to 450 Mhz unless you get a lucky one.

But the fact remained that X38's were worse clockers then the far cheaper P35. A lot of people like me would not pay the extra for an X38 if we can just get a P35 for cheap that overclocks much more.

Also, the Abit IX38 QuadGT had a terrible bios on release, and I'm not sure if it has been improved yet. Very few people were even able to reach 400 Mhz FSB on that board, getting one that could reach 450 Mhz was probably a 1 in 20 chance.

With the P35, you buy a decent one, and it does 500 Mhz FSB out of the box

I havnt yet seen anyone with a Neo 2 unable to reach 500 Mhz FSB as long as their hardware is able to, and that is a £66 or $89 on newegg motherboard

[dread77]

That's what X38 & X48 is about!!! Higher fsb and stable o/c. I have tested three X38 boards (Abit IX38 QuadGT, Maximus Extreme, P5E3 WS Pro) and they all went pretty higher than 500 (520-565).
The one and only negative in those chips is the temperature, which is higher than P35. So if you want a highly overclocked system, you have to add a w/c system to your budget

[Mungri]

That's what X38 & X48 is about!!! Higher fsb and stable o/c. I have tested three X38 boards (Abit IX38 QuadGT, Maximus Extreme, P5E3 WS Pro) and they all went pretty higher than 500 (520-565).
The one and only negative in those chips is the temperature, which is higher than P35. So if you want a highly overclocked system, you have to add a w/c system to your budget

Yes, you see, those X38's that you got that were capable of over 500 Mhz FSB are now the X38 chips that are being picked for X48 boards

The remaining X38's on the market right now recieve chips that arent worthy of going onto an X48, meaning that there must be something wrong with them. Knowing this, I still wouldnt buy an X38, I would rather just spend a little more and buy an X48 knowing that they are recieving the better chips, if I had that much money to spend on a motherboard, or spend less and get a P35. Either way, the X38 isn not an attractive purchase in the current market.

The X38 was a hit or miss for overclocking, and a lot of people with early samples got a miss.

I am eagerly awaiting some overclock reviews for the X48's (and the P45's, but thats another thread :p) to see how they do.

[Lu(ky]

Yes, you see, those X38's that you got that were capable of over 500 Mhz FSB are now the X38 chips that are being picked for X48 boards

The remaining X38's on the market right now recieve chips that arent worthy of going onto an X48, meaning that there must be something wrong with them. Knowing this, I still wouldnt buy an X38, I would rather just spend a little more and buy an X48 knowing that they are recieving the better chips, if I had that much money to spend on a motherboard, or spend less and get a P35. Either way, the X38 isn not an attractive purchase in the current market.

The X38 was a hit or miss for overclocking, and a lot of people with early samples got a miss.

I am eagerly awaiting some overclock reviews for the X48's (and the P45's, but thats another thread :p) to see how they do.

When you say great OCers you mean QX9650 chips or e8400 dual cores or both?

[Donnie27]

Yes, you see, those X38's that you got that were capable of over 500 Mhz FSB are now the X38 chips that are being picked for X48 boards

The remaining X38's on the market right now recieve chips that arent worthy of going onto an X48, meaning that there must be something wrong with them. Knowing this, I still wouldnt buy an X38, I would rather just spend a little more and buy an X48 knowing that they are recieving the better chips, if I had that much money to spend on a motherboard, or spend less and get a P35. Either way, the X38 isn not an attractive purchase in the current market.

The X38 was a hit or miss for overclocking, and a lot of people with early samples got a miss.

I am eagerly awaiting some overclock reviews for the X48's (and the P45's, but thats another thread :p) to see how they do.

But in many cases you defeat the reason for overclocking in the first place. If you spend all that money to get a higher overclock, you could have just bought a more expensive processor and overclocked it a little LOL! j/k

Unless you're working at the Intel Chip Set foundry, I want some proof=P

I chat with at least 5 people using 4 different X38's and all of them are at 4.1GHz or better for 24/7 overclocks. I see many here doing the same. Two of these guys bought them when they were NEW, sfirst shipments and fresh from the factory. One has a suicide shot of 4.6GHz LOL! The last are brand new on Gigabyte and One DFI. Chip set heat and RAM seem to be the biggest hold back and that has nothing to with the rest of the Board. I wished they'd build a Socket mountable chip set mount and cooler

I saw a Newbi overclocker running a 3GHz Wolfie at 3.6GHz and he was happy as a Monkey with a Peanut machine to quote George Clinton. His rig costs him less than half of what he paid for an Athlon X2-4600+ just 2.5 short years ago. He didn't overclock because he didn't know how, he didn't because his WOULDn't overclock more than 66MHz LOL!

Again, there are budget boards not meant to be overclocked and not beefed up like OC-able ones are. AFAIK, there aren't any Dud X38's sold on boards meant for overclockers. I've NOT seen any.

[Lu(ky]

But in many cases you defeat the reason for overclocking in the first place. If you spend all that money to get a higher overclock, you could have just bought a more expensive processor and overclocked it a little LOL!

Not true because I just just bought a New QX9650 when I already had a Q6600 thinking I would be able to OC like mad on my new Asus Striker II Extreme. So far it is easier to OC my Q6600 rather then my QX9650 chip... My QX9650 requires more Vcore to get stable at 4.0GHz... Everything all depends on stepping, cooling etc.

[Donnie27]

That's what X38 & X48 is about!!! Higher fsb and stable o/c. I have tested three X38 boards (Abit IX38 QuadGT, Maximus Extreme, P5E3 WS Pro) and they all went pretty higher than 500 (520-565).
The one and only negative in those chips is the temperature, which is higher than P35. So if you want a highly overclocked system, you have to add a w/c system to your budget

But come on guys isn't this a case of Nit-Picking gone wild? We have folks talking about a 30 to 37% overclock on a Processor that's 3GHz at stock and being what? Hell, at stock it is faster than any Dual Core Processor that shipped last year, out overclocks last years' best on even the cheap boards for what. 200 to 210 dollars? Blackops has for enthusiasts written all over it. The problem is Foxconn (and the rest selling such products) think Enthusiast means Suckers with more money than Brains.

So what are we talking about here 4.4GHz instead of 4.2GHz? At over 4GHz how could we tell if the Processor is 3 or 4 hundred MHz Faster? Sure our wallet can tell the difference LOL! Blackops will cost what again for that extra 200 or 300MHz?

[dread77]

So what are we talking about here 4.4GHz instead of 4.2GHz? At over 4GHz how could we tell if the Processor is 3 or 4 hundred MHz Faster? Sure our wallet can tell the difference LOL! Blackops will cost what again for that extra 200 or 300MHz?

You are missing the point man, I don't give a f..k what Foxconn and all other brands out there, think of their customers. O/C is a hobby for me, is a way enjoying my free time when I am not playing with my son.
If blackops can give 0.9Hz more than Maximus Extreme, I will sell my ME and buy blackops and when ME II comes out I wll sell blackops and buy that one. Simple like that.

[Donnie27]

You are missing the point man, I don't give a f..k what Foxconn and all other brands out there, think of their customers. O/C is a hobby for me, is a way enjoying my free time when I am not playing with my son.
If blackops can give 0.9Hz more than Maximus Extreme, I will sell my ME and buy blackops and when ME II comes out I wll sell blackops and buy that one. Simple like that.

Why so defensive? Did I flame or offend you?

[dread77]

Why so defensive? Did I flame or offend you?

No, not at all. I am sorry if you missunderstood my post.

[Donnie27]

No, not at all. I am sorry if you missunderstood my post.

Cool!

[Lu(ky]

But in many cases you defeat the reason for overclocking in the first place. If you spend all that money to get a higher overclock, you could have just bought a more expensive processor and overclocked it a little LOL! j/k

Unless you're working at the Intel Chip Set foundry, I want some proof=P

I chat with at least 5 people using 4 different X38's and all of them are at 4.1GHz or better for 24/7 overclocks. I see many here doing the same. Two of these guys bought them when they were NEW, sfirst shipments and fresh from the factory. One has a suicide shot of 4.6GHz LOL! The last are brand new on Gigabyte and One DFI. Chip set heat and RAM seem to be the biggest hold back and that has nothing to with the rest of the Board. I wished they'd build a Socket mountable chip set mount and cooler

I saw a Newbi overclocker running a 3GHz Wolfie at 3.6GHz and he was happy as a Monkey with a Peanut machine to quote George Clinton. His rig costs him less than half of what he paid for an Athlon X2-4600+ just 2.5 short years ago. He didn't overclock because he didn't know how, he didn't because his WOULDn't overclock more than 66MHz LOL!

Again, there are budget boards not meant to be overclocked and not beefed up like OC-able ones are. AFAIK, there aren't any Dud X38's sold on boards meant for overclockers. I've NOT seen any.

But come on guys isn't this a case of Nit-Picking gone wild? We have folks talking about a 30 to 37% overclock on a Processor that's 3GHz at stock and being what? Hell, at stock it is faster than any Dual Core Processor that shipped last year, out overclocks last years' best on even the cheap boards for what. 200 to 210 dollars? Blackops has for enthusiasts written all over it. The problem is Foxconn (and the rest selling such products) think Enthusiast means Suckers with more money than Brains.

So what are we talking about here 4.4GHz instead of 4.2GHz? At over 4GHz how could we tell if the Processor is 3 or 4 hundred MHz Faster? Sure our wallet can tell the difference LOL! Blackops will cost what again for that extra 200 or 300MHz?

I love it when peps complain on how other people spend there money that they do not have

[Donnie27]

I love it when peps complain on how other people spend there money that they do not have

Maybe cause I spend money on more than computer?

[[XC] Lead Head]

So what? Thats you, people here have money they put aside to spend on their computers. Plus your on the wrong forum if your about getting value per your dollar

[Donnie27]

So what? Thats you, people here have money they put aside to spend on their computers. Plus your on the wrong forum if your about getting value per your dollar

Whatever