The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[loften]

my mouse issues i ran into after going to the rampage 308 bios were from my 4 month old DeathAdder. it's now a Dead Adder.

[Grnfinger]

ZenEffect

Just got home and pop'd the quad in, took a cool 30 seconds to get it upto 3.6GHz. Temps are , I guess in my haste I have not properly applied the AS5.
Going to go for 3.8-4.0 depending on the volts required, just wanted to thank you again for the great deal
If you have a heatware account let me know so I can post some positive comments.

[trt740]

Bought this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227299 dropped it into my Rampage rig cannot get it to overclock past ddr800 or I get det ram error. I had transcend axe ram until it died. It worked great was using these settings. Any Idea what the problem might be.


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : moderate changed this to light
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.38v
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53 upped this to 1.57v
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[zlojack]

I've had problems getting my RAM to boot with a 500 FSB with that tRD (disabled (0) is 8, right? ) in the past. Basically, when I set my FSB to 500 and put everything on AUTO, I was getting performance level 13!!! So you could try to manually set that up way high and walk it down. You might get it down to 10, but I'm not sure what that will do to your bandwidth and latency on the memory.


You also might want to try a 450 FSB and see what you can get there.

[loften]

well i had to go and play with s3 and now it won't turn back on.. how do you get out of s3 i tried clearing c mos/ reset and removed the battery for few min.. any help please and thanks..

[Nuckin_Futs]

I am very interested in these too so I will be glad to help and see what they can do. Please include you reported RAM sub timings (highlighted in primary and secondary sections of DRAM timings). I do know for OCZ on 2x 2g moduals, they like to run a trfc of 50 or so at the same spd of a 2x 1g kit (as so for my OCZ Platinum PC2-6400 OC'd to 1050MHz0 @ 2.2v. Also look at what I edited for stability at 500x8.

Bought this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227299 dropped it into my Rampage rig cannot get it to overclock past ddr800 or I get det ram error. I had transcend axe ram until it died. It worked great was using these settings. Any Idea what the problem might be.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto [50~55]
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled [Enabled] It helps the strap curve at higher FSB over 450
Ai Clock Twister : moderate changed this to light
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.38v
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO Fix to manual as Auto overvolts quite a bit as FSB goes up. CMOS set of 1.5 should return 1.612 for starters
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53 upped this to 1.57v
DRAM Voltage : 2.12 [at least 2.21, 2.24 for 1200mHz is row refresh is set to 50 or 55, @ 42, will need as much as 2.28
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40, [1.472] this helps with higher FSB on CPU and mob and MCH
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050, [1.104]
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
  >Disable both speed spectrum settings

All voltages as reported actual by CMOS power managemnet, This mobo overvolts

If anything else, if you could for me, confirm That they do 1153 on a 480x8 in 5:6 (everthing else the same for now). I'd be happy if I can match the performance of my Tracers at same clock and less vdimm. Right now I run 1 set as 1165MHz @ 5-5-5-15 @ 2.24v (row refresh -trfc @ 50).

I cannot speak for the worthyness of hacked BIOS so if all else try BETA v1004 and I can compare notes.

Does S3/STR function at such an oC level or at all in hacked Rampage BIOS, any version? Any word on the RMA experience if modded to Rampage BIOS upon return? Will they know if you can get it back to official Maximus Formula?

[Nuckin_Futs]

I've had problems getting my RAM to boot with a 500 FSB with that tRD (disabled (0) is 8, right? ) in the past. Basically, when I set my FSB to 500 and put everything on AUTO, I was getting performance level 13!!! So you could try to manually set that up way high and walk it down. You might get it down to 10, but I'm not sure what that will do to your bandwidth and latency on the memory.


You also might want to try a 450 FSB and see what you can get there.

What BIOS ver and CPU and OS? I am on BETA v1004 and it does freeze at attempt to enter, as if stuck in S1 cause aI can see case led blink and hear HDD's pwr dwn. Yet it is unresponsive. I can however hard pwr off bt holding case pwr for over 4secs and pwr on cold boot with ease. I did however have the issue you mentioned in BETA v0907, always requiring a full pwr off and clear of stored energy and sometimes CMOS reset just to get to f1 option to enter set up. I never stuck around to figure it out and moved back to v0602 imediately. Too late, the damage was done.

I also read from the ASUS site that BETA v1004 also can corrupt eprom if flashed w/ Live update old versions. I played it safe and flash from now on in Afudos.

[loften]

i have power to the lcd poster and the sound card light was on i just switched it to s3 in bios and now it is sleeping.. i got the battery out right now, i don't know what else to do.. maybe i will try putting in a ps2 keyboard and see if it will power up from ps2 because i think that is also on in bios..

[loften]

i got it it was just leaving the battery out long enough. time to reset everything in bios again..

[Nuckin_Futs]

i got it it was just leaving the battery out long enough. time to reset everything in bios again..

ja, I had to do that in v907 too. But in my current v1004 it is not in regular S1 or S3 caus eRAM is still lit up (Tracers) they never stayed lit during S3 on prrevious 903 and below BIOS. So something is not working for me either. Only my old Corsair Xpert PC2-6400's would remain lit with messgae on marque when in S3 or S1 of corse. They only went out in S4 and S5 of corse.

Anybody having any look with 266 strap at 480FSB to use DDR1204 in v1004? is it easier in v1006? How loose does the RAM need to be to boot? Or is it even worth it over 1165MHz at 333 strap in 485x8. I like only having to use as lil as 2.22v now. And real world app performance has not changed, if anything it is smoother and less app crashes like in NeroVision.

[ZenEffect]

ZenEffect

Just got home and pop'd the quad in, took a cool 30 seconds to get it upto 3.6GHz. Temps are , I guess in my haste I have not properly applied the AS5.
Going to go for 3.8-4.0 depending on the volts required, just wanted to thank you again for the great deal
If you have a heatware account let me know so I can post some positive comments.

i just sent you a pm wondering about the oc before i checked this thread

im actually digging this cool laboratories liquid pro. just got some the other day and re-did my water loop. what temps are you getting now, and how is it being cooled?

what are your settings for 3.6? i need 1.31 or so volts to be prime stable w/ same vid.

[Grnfinger]

i just sent you a pm wondering about the oc before i checked this thread

im actually digging this cool laboratories liquid pro. just got some the other day and re-did my water loop. what temps are you getting now, and how is it being cooled?

Priming a easy 3.825GHz (9x425) @1.45 volts. using 8/6 divider for a nice 1133MHz ram
Temps are hideous, idle at 52c and load is insane at 70c.
Ambiant air is rather warm here today 25c so that may account for the temp issue.
I have a Swiftech kit, 2x120 rad, stealth full coverage cooling the gpu and a Apogee GT for the cpu. NB is also in the mix using the stock fuzion block (SE for me)
Been priming for awhile now so I'm confident it will be solid at these settings

[trt740]

can anyone recommend some good DDR2 my transcend died no more to be had and this ocz kit DDR2 1150 came DOA error city.

[trt740]

I am very interested in these too so I will be glad to help and see what they can do. Please include you reported RAM sub timings (highlighted in primary and secondary sections of DRAM timings). I do know for OCZ on 2x 2g moduals, they like to run a trfc of 50 or so at the same spd of a 2x 1g kit (as so for my OCZ Platinum PC2-6400 OC'd to 1050MHz0 @ 2.2v. Also look at what I edited for stability at 500x8.



All voltages as reported actual by CMOS power managemnet, This mobo overvolts

If anything else, if you could for me, confirm That they do 1153 on a 480x8 in 5:6 (everthing else the same for now). I'd be happy if I can match the performance of my Tracers at same clock and less vdimm. Right now I run 1 set as 1165MHz @ 5-5-5-15 @ 2.24v (row refresh -trfc @ 50).

I cannot speak for the worthyness of hacked BIOS so if all else try BETA v1004 and I can compare notes.

Does S3/STR function at such an oC level or at all in hacked Rampage BIOS, any version? Any word on the RMA experience if modded to Rampage BIOS upon return? Will they know if you can get it back to official Maximus Formula?

There bad both sticks failed the hell out of memtest test 6, no to the second question you can flash it back. Also rampage and maximus boards are physically the same. Bios is the only difference.

[chawks2]

Was never able to push my 3110 past 425 FSB. Pretty easily I was able to get 460, stability is next. Man I love this board!

Can not even imagine my 8400 on this baby.

[WFO]

Temps are hideous, idle at 52c and load is insane at 70c.
Ambiant air is rather warm here today 25c so that may account for the temp issue.
I have a Swiftech kit, 2x120 rad, stealth full coverage cooling the gpu and a Apogee GT for the cpu. NB is also in the mix using the stock fuzion block (SE for me)
Been priming for awhile now so I'm confident it will be solid at these settings

I found the MCR220 Barely adequate for an OCed Q6600 G0 with nothing else in the loop. I do believe you should seriously consider a radiator upgrade.

[Moneyless]

I like my Maximus Formula but it's definite overkill for my little E6300... I'd like to get a quad (thinking Q6600) soon though.

There are some good tips here though, and I should flash to a newer BIOS since it's still on the one the board came with... (Me being lazy)

[trt740]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148070


anyone have this memory

[Nuckin_Futs]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148070

anyone have this memory

See my sig, and read my POST. I cant say for sure it's the best, but it sure is nice for decent 1200MHz, But it can really benifit from good cooling. And the light show is awsome.

I like my Maximus Formula but it's definite overkill for my little E6300... I'd like to get a quad (thinking Q6600) soon though.

There are some good tips here though, and I should flash to a newer BIOS since it's still on the one the board came with... (Me being lazy)

I wouldn't say that. If anything, this mobo offers the best your E6300 can get. It can make the cheapest CPU's feel good. for example, 532FSB in 1:2 gives you 1066 RAM. I think we have higher dividers so you can get more on less FSB if your CPU lags. I got that on my P5WDG2-WS Pro so imagine how this mobo will do. Those E6300's were quite the clockers when it came to high FSB, Almost all 500+. I'd stick to stable official v0602 untill we hear better. This offers the best of ACPI support at 500FSB and is more then modern enough for an E6300. I can only say BETA v1004 is good for RAM tweaks w/ 2x 2g kits and less vdimm, but S3/STR does not work, so it's a trade off. Do not flash in Live Update to these newer BETA BIOS as they are often getting corrupted. Use Afudos for safest results, or EZ-Flash for official BIOS.

[xtant25]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148070


anyone have this memory

I have it mine is currently running at 1304Mhz at 2.26v on the maximus formula ive had it up close to 1400Mhz all at 5-5-5-15 2T timimgs.

[ZenEffect]

Priming a easy 3.825GHz (9x425) @1.45 volts. using 8/6 divider for a nice 1133MHz ram
Temps are hideous, idle at 52c and load is insane at 70c.
Ambiant air is rather warm here today 25c so that may account for the temp issue.
I have a Swiftech kit, 2x120 rad, stealth full coverage cooling the gpu and a Apogee GT for the cpu. NB is also in the mix using the stock fuzion block (SE for me)
Been priming for awhile now so I'm confident it will be solid at these settings

i think you need a better rad.

[xtant25]

See my sig, and read my POST. I cant say for sure it's the best, but it sure is nice for decent 1200MHz, But it can really benifit from good cooling. And the light show is awsome.


I wouldn't say that. If anything, this mobo offers the best your E6300 can get. It can make the cheapest CPU's feel good. for example, 532FSB in 1:2 gives you 1066 RAM. I think we have higher dividers so you can get more on less FSB if your CPU lags. I got that on my P5WDG2-WS Pro so imagine how this mobo will do. Those E6300's were quite the clockers when it came to high FSB, Almost all 500+. I'd stick to stable official v0602 untill we hear better. This offers the best of ACPI support at 500FSB and is more then modern enough for an E6300. I can only say BETA v1004 is good for RAM tweaks w/ 2x 2g kits and less vdimm, but S3/STR does not work, so it's a trade off. Do not flash in Live Update to these newer BETA BIOS as they are often getting corrupted. Use Afudos for safest results, or EZ-Flash for official BIOS.

Hey man heres the screen shot. And a little something extra.....http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=351714

[BigKriss]

A bit confused regarding ram here...Is a lower numeric performance number better or is a higher numeric performance number preferable??
Ive seen everything from 13`s to low 5`s...

Thanks.

[theonlybabyface]

A bit confused regarding ram here...Is a lower numeric performance number better or is a higher numeric performance number preferable??
Ive seen everything from 13`s to low 5`s...

Thanks.

Lower the better....

[BigKriss]

Thought so ! Thanks bud..