The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[ChaosAD]

After upgrading earlier from bios 903 to Rampage bios 308 i logged into vista to check the voltages. I launched everest and what i saw was very unusual. Fisrt of all the were no NB/SB Volt or Temp at all, Cpu core was wrong and the list goes on. Is this normal after the bios upgrade? I tried to re intall but nothing changed? Anyone had the same problem?

[kup]

After upgrading earlier from bios 903 to Rampage bios 308 i logged into vista to check the voltages. I launched everest and what i saw was very unusual. Fisrt of all the were no NB/SB Volt or Temp at all, Cpu core was wrong and the list goes on. Is this normal after the bios upgrade? I tried to re intall but nothing changed? Anyone had the same problem?

You need a newer version of Everest. Grnfinger had the same problem and updating his Everest version solved it for him.

Download : EVEREST v4.50.1355 Beta

[ChaosAD]

Is this a general problem or we are the unlucky two? Anyway i ll give it a shot and i ll report back. Thanx a lot

[ChaosAD]

New version of everest is working great

[Grnfinger]

Oh. Sorry, am on vacation. Will do so this weekend if it's still of value to you, but here it is for 5-4-4-12-3-25-6-3:

Thanks, I would be interested in seeing the other timing scores if you get a chance.
Enjoy your Vacation

Is this a general problem or we are the unlucky two? Anyway i ll give it a shot and i ll report back. Thanx a lot

Were not unlucky, we win the prize

[Cranox]

Woot , after reading this huge thread i flashed my P5e with the 308 rampage bios
Everything fine , im happy with the new things i got in the bios

[Dostoyevsky77]

Could you do me a favour????
Could you run Everest Memory Bench with your ram at current 5-4-4-12-3-25-6-3, and then again at 5-5-5-15-3-30-3-6 and post both results

Oh. Sorry, am on vacation. Will do so this weekend if it's still of value to you, but here it is for 5-4-4-12-3-25-6-3:

Here is 5-5-5-15-3-30-3-6. Best of three. Very nearly as fast.



Keep in mind, I'm 4x1GB so one can expect lower performance than @ 2x1.

[panfist]

Hey, forgive me if you guys have already gone over this...

I just got a brand new P5E using the newest beta bios and I'm messing around with it for the first time...I have an e8400 at 9x430MHz, stable at 1.37V (auto). I have C1E and EIST enabled.

When it's idle, every program that monitors voltage reports 1.37V. Then, when it's at load, it reports 1.34V. This seems a little ridiculous as when it's idle the clock speed drops by over 1GHz, isn't the voltage supposed to go down when it's idle? not up?

[Nuckin_Futs]

Hey, forgive me if you guys have already gone over this...

I just got a brand new P5E using the newest beta bios and I'm messing around with it for the first time...I have an e8400 at 9x430MHz, stable at 1.37V (auto). I have C1E and EIST enabled.

When it's idle, every program that monitors voltage reports 1.37V. Then, when it's at load, it reports 1.34V. This seems a little ridiculous as when it's idle the clock speed drops by over 1GHz, isn't the voltage supposed to go down when it's idle? not up?

First off, I dont reccomend using EIST (Intel Speedstep) on an overclock, it's not very stable and is why ASUS usually locks it out of OC above certain FSB levels. Second, I for sure would not use EIST and C1E together. Use C1E+TM mode for better results.
As for the loading drop in vcore, this is normal, it's the vdroop. Enable Loadline Calibration in CMOS to fix. In normal C1e+TM2 mode, vcore and ratio should drop to reduce power in C states (idle). ASUS does not comply w/ true C+P state but will reduce only the ratio from set value to lowest.

[panfist]

First off, I dont reccomend using EIST (Intel Speedstep) on an overclock, it's not very stable and is why ASUS usually locks it out of OC above certain FSB levels. Second, I for sure would not use EIST and C1E together. Use C1E+TM mode for better results.

As for the loading drop in vcore, this is normal, it's the vdroop. Enable Loadline Calibration in CMOS to fix. In normal C1e+TM2 mode, vcore and ratio should drop to reduce power in C states (idle). ASUS does not comply w/ true C+P state but will reduce only the ratio from set value to lowest.

For the first part of your reply, for the last three ASUS boards I have owned I have never had a higher overclock by disabling EIST. I'll experiment with this one if you recommend it, but to me "EIST is unstable" is just a myth.

Second, about vdroop, from what I've read I'm unconvinced either way whether it is a good or a bad thing. I'm not sure I want to disable it. I was merely pointing out it's ironic that I'm running 1.37V@2.6GHz, and a lower voltage level at more than 1GHz faster.

Lastly, isn't it EIST that lowers the ratio? So if ASUS does not comply with true C+P states, if I don't set EIST, then my processor is running at full speed, full voltage all the time?

edit: I was just reading about C1E and EIST...C1E lowers the ratio, too, I guess? So there is no reason to enable EIST as far as I can see...

[Nuckin_Futs]

Sorry, correction, ASUS apears to lock out the TN2 function so it doesn't comply when overclocked. In full auto it does in either EIST or C1E+TM2. The "2" of the TM mode is what would also lower the vcore along w/ ratio. Or in other words, ratio is held on lower multi untill a CPU loading is called for usually over 3~7% or 7~15% then works at full spd. On a mobo that allowed TM2+C1E in an overclock, the vcore would also be lowere at idle too. So full spd is used when needed not just for playing MP3 or surfing the web. EIST steps between low to high multi ie: 6/7/8/9. This stepping is going on between the CPU and chipset where control is made so it does use system resorces to do its switcing. Whereas C1E is done on the die and no lag is felt when going from 6 to 9. You dont get 7/8. In EIST, it's the stepping of the middle ratios that cause a drag and is noticed by slight delay. So if your OC isn't rock solid, it may baug down and feel sloppy.

I believe most mobo makers tend to disable TM2 during manual OC mode so to keep stable. Cause if a certain CPU VID couldnt match a FID, it would or may just crash. This happened on my Abit w/ E6600 (where 1.12v was too low for 2.8GHz at 480FSB on 6x and yet it needed 1.45 @ 3.8GHz on the 8x.

Hope this helps a bit!

[TouGe]

When I do a cold boot and would have the "det dram" hang, under hardware monitor my ram volts were showing 1.88.
So as I was not 100% sure what these settings did I started playing around.
So after a few experiments I have found setting all to DDR2-REFF +10mv removes my det dram issues completely.

I used to get 2 or 3 det dram hangs a week, after making the setting change, I have not had a hang for over 1 week.

Nope, didn't work for me.

When I cold boot I also get DRAM voltage of 1.90V but changing the DDR2-REF to +10mV still resulted in a det dram hang. I have to enter the BIOS and exit in order for the board to boot. I'm thinking about sending this board back to Newegg since I signed up for their 1 year replacement plan.

[ChaosAD]

Nope, didn't work for me.

When I cold boot I also get DRAM voltage of 1.90V but changing the DDR2-REF to +10mV still resulted in a det dram hang. I have to enter the BIOS and exit in order for the board to boot. I'm thinking about sending this board back to Newegg since I signed up for their 1 year replacement plan.

Whenever i try to overclock higher and get a Det Dram hang i up the NB Volt 1-2 steps and i am able to load with no issues. This work for me great.

[HDPC]

Hello there everyone,

Hope some gurus out there can give me a hand or two.

I am new at OC and looking for help before doing so. I just bought a new computer and currently it is up and running. Here is a list my hardware before I ask a few questions.

- Lian Li (PC-V1110A/B) case
- ASUS Maximus Formula SE
- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad Core Processor (Kentsfield)
- Corsair CMPSU-620HX
- ASUS Radeon HD 3870 X2
- OCZ Reaper Hpc Edition PC2-8500 DDR2-1066 4GB (2x2GB)
- Zalman CNPS9500A
- Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 750GB SATA2
- Vista Ultimate X86 32bit

I have a few questions:
1 - What is the difference between Maximus formula vs Rampage?
2 - Is it worth while converting to Rampage?
3 - Can someone post some of there Extreme Tweaker setting?

Thanks everyone for your help.

[zlojack]

Hello there everyone,

Hope some gurus out there can give me a hand or two.

I am new at OC and looking for help before doing so. I just bought a new computer and currently it is up and running. Here is a list my hardware before I ask a few questions.

- Lian Li (PC-V1110A/B) case
- ASUS Maximus Formula SE
- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad Core Processor (Kentsfield)
- Corsair CMPSU-620HX
- ASUS Radeon HD 3870 X2
- OCZ Reaper Hpc Edition PC2-8500 DDR2-1066 4GB (2x2GB)
- Zalman CNPS9500A
- Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 750GB SATA2
- Vista Ultimate X86 32bit

I have a few questions:
1 - What is the difference between Maximus formula vs Rampage?
2 - Is it worth while converting to Rampage?
3 - Can someone post some of there Extreme Tweaker setting?

Thanks everyone for your help.

1. The binning of the chipset and the bios
2. So far it has shown to be worthwhile for some. Depends on how much you want to do.
3. Search through the thread here, there are dozens

[Sources]

Hello there everyone,

Hope some gurus out there can give me a hand or two.

I am new at OC and looking for help before doing so. I just bought a new computer and currently it is up and running. Here is a list my hardware before I ask a few questions.

- Lian Li (PC-V1110A/B) case
- ASUS Maximus Formula SE
- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad Core Processor (Kentsfield)
- Corsair CMPSU-620HX
- ASUS Radeon HD 3870 X2
- OCZ Reaper Hpc Edition PC2-8500 DDR2-1066 4GB (2x2GB)
- Zalman CNPS9500A
- Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 750GB SATA2
- Vista Ultimate X86 32bit

I have a few questions:
1 - What is the difference between Maximus formula vs Rampage?
2 - Is it worth while converting to Rampage?
3 - Can someone post some of there Extreme Tweaker setting?

Thanks everyone for your help.

1. x38 chipset vs x48 chipset (but both these versions are DDR2 mem)
2. IMO yes. Was easier to achive o/c to my experience.
3. I can post mine when I get home from work today since we have an almost identical setup except for the manufacture of the RAM.

[Sources]

Damn Zlojack, you have 2 HD3870X2's with EK water blocks. That is like 1,000 buck right there. I want to order a block for mine soon also to get mine into the loop.

[HDPC]

1. x38 chipset vs x48 chipset (but both these versions are DDR2 mem)
2. IMO yes. Was easier to achive o/c to my experience.
3. I can post mine when I get home from work today since we have an almost identical setup except for the manufacture of the RAM.

Thanks Zlojack, and Sources for the replies.

I will be converting to Rampage tonight.

Sources, please post your setting. That would be great. Thanks.

Cheers,
-HDPC

[zlojack]

Damn Zlojack, you have 2 HD3870X2's with EK water blocks. That is like 1,000 buck right there. I want to order a block for mine soon also to get mine into the loop.

Go for it. They are beautiful blocks!

Just don't tell my wife how much they cost

[xtant25]

Has anybody else had trouble with the maximus formula reading subzero temps even in the bios? I bought a Prometeia Mach II and the cpu (E8400) temp is stuck at 17c. Idle or full load for hours it doesnt move Currently Running The CPU at 4500MHz 1.6V. Thanks

[Smallz750]

I am wondering I have been trying to install a HD3870x2 and a sapphire hx3870 toxic edition video card in my maximus formula, but I have not been able to get crossfire to enable on it, does anyone know if this motherboard if crossfireX compatible to where I can run 3 gpu's in it in crossfire mode?

[zlojack]

I am wondering I have been trying to install a HD3870x2 and a sapphire hx3870 toxic edition video card in my maximus formula, but I have not been able to get crossfire to enable on it, does anyone know if this motherboard if crossfireX compatible to where I can run 3 gpu's in it in crossfire mode?

It should be. I run 4 GPUs.

[Smallz750]

Very interesting then, I wonder why I am unable to run 3 GPUs then on mine, when I try to go to enable crossfire, it tells me I need both bridges connected, but on the 3870x2 there is only 1 connector, so I'm not able to do that. not sure what I'm doing wrong

[ZenEffect]

Very interesting then, I wonder why I am unable to run 3 GPUs then on mine, when I try to go to enable crossfire, it tells me I need both bridges connected, but on the 3870x2 there is only 1 connector, so I'm not able to do that. not sure what I'm doing wrong

what os?

[Sources]

Are you using Catalyst 8.3 or later ?