Could B3 Phenom be the rebirth of AMD....+1000MHZ OC done!

[RyderOCZ]

As much as I love to talk about PC&P PSU's....back on topic guys, please.

Thanks

[Particle]

The PC-PC 1kw only cost me like $420 at my local Microcenter. I like it much better than the 750w silencer I put in a computer for my brother.

Why? What on earth could use enough power to even max the 750W? That's robust enough to support an overclocked 9850 and four 3870s.

[dng]

i got the dfi 790fx m2rs board coming. i won't have the quad core for it yet since i'm holding out for better bins . anyhow, i will be experimenting with crossfire on this board. anything i should be aware of with working on it? i will probably be running with a 5000+ BE am2 proc. is there a thread with bios settings? this will be my first time venturing into an amd chipset. thank you very much.

[w00dzy]

i got the dfi 790fx m2rs board coming. i won't have the quad core for it yet since i'm holding out for better bins . anyhow, i will be experimenting with crossfire on this board. anything i should be aware of with working on it? i will probably be running with a 5000+ BE am2 proc. is there a thread with bios settings? this will be my first time venturing into an amd chipset. thank you very much.

try using search, or google it..

[w00dzy]

Why? What on earth could use enough power to even max the 750W? That's robust enough to support an overclocked 9850 and four 3870s.

would my 700w support 2 3870x2s?
its the 700w coolermaster modular

[w00dzy]

ive managed to get my ram to 1008mhz
looks like the nb and ht run fine at around 2.5ghz! @ 1.4v and cpu runs fine @ 2.9 @ 1.365 (however it only uses 1.344 for some reason)
htt doesnt seem to be maxed out yet!! so might try for 3.0 using this multiplier.. as it seems when clocking with the multi it gets unstable.. im sure my chip didnt do this when i first got it!!! somethings different! will it do harm if i continuously run it with a high htt?

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[Particle]

would my 700w support 2 3870x2s?
its the 700w coolermaster modular

That mostly depends on your 12V rail(s). Expect each 3870x2 to pull about 20A under full load. Leave another 15-20A for your motherboard and CPU if you're an overclocker. Most other kinds of components don't pull much.

[Particle]

^ Now there's something I like to see. This is an example of Unreal Touranament 3 running on my Phenom 9850 (2.8GHz) + Radeon 3870 (stock). It was set to maxed out and played as smooth as silk.

It's nice to see a game (or any frequently-used application) take advantage of multiple cores like that.

[Suosaaski]

http://www.pcrpg.org/pics/misc/ut3cpu.png

^ Now there's something I like to see. This is an example of Unreal Touranament 3 running on my Phenom 9850 (2.8GHz) + Radeon 3870 (stock). It was set to maxed out and played as smooth as silk.

It's nice to see a game (or any frequently-used application) take advantage of multiple cores like that.

If you do the math, that averages to an estimate of 100% on two cores, so the game really uses "only" two cores (which is still nice).

On the other hand, I did a slight test with my Phenom 9600 and MS Flight Simulator X...
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9464/fsxcpu4cg9.jpg

That's what I like to see

[Particle]

If you do the math, that averages to an estimate of 100% on two cores, so the game really uses "only" two cores (which is still nice).

On the other hand, I did a slight test with my Phenom 9600 and MS Flight Simulator X...
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9464/fsxcpu4cg9.jpg

That's what I like to see

Heh. It doesn't work that way. It uses all four (three of which it uses quite a bit). You can't jumble the math any way you want it and say something like "If you add it up, you can see that it only uses one core at 270%." I'd also like to point out that three cores stay around 75% and the forth at 25% which averages a bit closer to three fully loaded cores instead of two if you do still want to look at it that way.

Nice pic of FSX though. Does it make an in-game responsiveness improvement? That's always been one of the complaints I hear about FSX from real pilots--slow response.

[dng]

so what's the consensus? i see very few 9850 hitting 3Ghz or more. hopefully by the time i can get one, it'll oc better. also i might as well hold out for 45nm quad core deneb. i wonder if it'll work with am2+ board.

[Rammsteiner]

so what's the consensus? i see very few 9850 hitting 3Ghz or more. hopefully by the time i can get one, it'll oc better. also i might as well hold out for 45nm quad core deneb. i wonder if it'll work with am2+ board.

Of course 45nm will work with AM2+! Why wouldnt it work? If you're concerned about it because it failed back then with Intel 45nm and 680i boards, keep in mind that 1) Intel wants SLI badly and tries to screw nVidia over for not telling technical specs and 2) 790FX is from AMD them selves. 780a isnt, but I doubt AMD would keep technical specs silent for nVidia to prevent 45nm's to work properly on 780a's. It's more likely they try to get a better 790FX which enables special features with Phenom + CF than that they downgrade nVidia.

[SkullCracka]

Hey Woodzy. was this shot here of the 3ghz. was that not stable ???
i couldnt get stable @ 3ghz either. Yet.

[Ben_Brown]

This is kind of a double post from another forum but:

Yesterday when I got home I set everything up to my highest stable setting in the bios which is as follows:

CPU Multi: 13x
HT Multi: 10x
HT ref. Clock: 225
Mem VDDQ: 1.9
NB Core: 1.2
CPU HT: 1.25
CPU VDDC: 1.336

Then I went into AOD and unselected "Select All Cores" and changed Core 0 Multi to 13.5 which gave me 3037Mhz on that core. I ran a stress test, no errors, played some games, no errors, surfed the web, no problems. This morning I ran the auto test in OCCT and it completed with no errors. I plan on letting this run the rest of the day (if I can keep my patience in check) and then up Core 1 tonight and see if I get the same results.

[AlabamaCajun]

Skullcraka, I see why your core temp is so high

From what I keep seeing around the nethood, we should see some higher Phenoms maybe 2.7-2.8. I'm sure a few real good chips pop out with lower TDP and higher clockability. These I'm sure that's where the 6400 X2s came from. AMD just doesn't say anything until enough stock is built to put them on the market. I would like to know if a few really sweet clockers pop out that do 400mhz or better than the highest ones they sell and/or that we might just be lucky enough to get one.

[Rammsteiner]

Does having different speeds on cores actually help? Cause for example Crossfire, which I know is completely different though, it doesnt matter what card is faster as the speed being really used is from the slowest right?

If it does help I DEMAND NOW a BIOS which supports it cause I dont feel like getting into AOD every time. It's nice to do a few quick changes while testing but for me that's it. Unless they get everything working perfectly, but AOD has been out for a while and it still doesnt work perfectly so that might take a while

[w00dzy]

Hey Woodzy. was this shot here of the 3ghz. was that not stable ???
i couldnt get stable @ 3ghz either. Yet.

hello, well it was stable for a day or so, ran prime ok but just bsods when you least expect it.. every combination of multiplier and fsb i have tried @ 3ghz seems to fail when you least expect it however it was stable running crysis and 3dmark..

(need to change my sig )

[Rammsteiner]

What Prime test did you use? Small FFT, Large FFT or Blend?

[Ben_Brown]

Does having different speeds on cores actually help? Cause for example Crossfire, which I know is completely different though, it doesnt matter what card is faster as the speed being really used is from the slowest right?

If it does help I DEMAND NOW a BIOS which supports it cause I dont feel like getting into AOD every time. It's nice to do a few quick changes while testing but for me that's it. Unless they get everything working perfectly, but AOD has been out for a while and it still doesnt work perfectly so that might take a while

That is what I am hoping to find out.

The reason being is that I have read that some people have had the same issues with some of the B2 phenoms. So this is what I am testing now since most of use are having problems overclocking above 3000Mhz.

[Astennu]

[QUOTE=Tony;2939089]

You askin me to comment on a coolermaster PSU LOL

No idea man


CPU is stable just over 3.4GHZ, screenies at 3.5 and utter suicides at 3.6

Remember this was first yield, as it gets better we should start seeing 3.6 stable maybe more

Whats wrong with coolermaster ? I realy like that new Realpower Pro 1000w its silent efficient and not expensive. And it was more stable than the most other 1000W i bet the PCPC would be better but it pwned other brands Or those review where incorrect.

[stocius]

[QUOTE=Astennu;2942750]

Whats wrong with coolermaster ? I realy like that new Realpower Pro 1000w its silent efficient and not expensive. And it was more stable than the most other 1000W i bet the PCPC would be better but it pwned other brands Or those review where incorrect.

Tony works for OCZ, so it's not wise for him to comment on other brands not partnered or affilated with OCZ. BTW PCPC is an OCZ group brand if I'm not mistaken now on the clocks!

[merkk1]

Hi
on my rig 2.808 is what run trouble free ,every time i try to go over that i will get it run for a bit than it will crash like the next day so for my rig the chip is a 2.800 .
Iam using the 13.5x with 208 FBS and 1.31 v it ends up at 2.808 Mhz. .The only thing i have left to do on this rig is add one more 3850 video cards that will put me at 3 and call it a day i use it over the next year than up -date again.

[Sparky]

What we need is a G0 phenom

[AlabamaCajun]

What we need is a G0 phenom

Bring It

[keithlm]

Bring It

"Please sir... can I have one".