Innovation Cooling's Diamond 7 TIM test results

[littleowl]

I forgot to mention that these new tests are performed using using a Intel P4 Northwood 3.0 GHz CPU overclocked to 3.61 GHz (1.648V). To ensure uniform distribution of thermal interface material, we are using Intel socket 478 stock reference coolers which utilize lever arms to compress the unit onto the processor. So far, this is proving to be a very successful configuration. Additionally, we are going to make our entire test results available (hundreds of entries) and screenshots in a package download.
Temp Difference / Product Name / Cure Time
46.65 Arctic Silver 5 200+ Hours
48.06 OCZ Freeze 1 Hour
48.18 Noctua NT-H1 1 Hour
48.45 IC 7 Carat Diamond 4 Hours
48.73 Tuniq TX-2 1 Hour
48.80 AC MX-2 1 Hour

I don't want to sound really stupid but I have used several northwood chips and your telling us your temps were that high with these compounds? I under stand 1.6v is a lot and mades a ton of heat but something don't sound right to me.

[Das Capitolin]

I don't want to sound really stupid but I have used several northwood chips and your telling us your temps were that high with these compounds? I under stand 1.6v is a lot and mades a ton of heat but something don't sound right to me.

I am doing my best to not take this as a slight against my hard work based on an unfounded opinion, because I know the crew here at Xtreme Systems is better than that.

Since I didn't release the maximum CPU temps (only the average mean temp) you can have no idea "how hot" any one of these ever got. But to address your concern, I assure you that I didn't just decide to make up a bunch of numbers so they could be published on my website. I have tons of screen shots, and plenty of data.

Just for the record, the most common ambient temperature was 20.4 C, and the most common maximum CPU temp was 69 C.

[fart_plume]

I think I see littleowl's confusion is at, it's that your using a stock intel 478 hs correct? Most guys on the forum use a TRUE 120 with oc's. understandably your temps will be higher using a stock hs. And i can see that you would get the same mount pressure with each new mount using the stock hs.

I think it just scares the pee out of us when we hear of temps that high so please don't take our alarm as a slight, even though our hardware gets abused, we do try to keep the temps down to maximize the lifespan of the hardware and hearing of high temps kinda makes us go blind to everything else.
Ultimatly though you are just looking for the delta temps anyway.

[D_A]

I am doing my best to not take this as a slight against my hard work based on an unfounded opinion, because I know the crew here at Xtreme Systems is better than that.

Since I didn't release the maximum CPU temps (only the average mean temp) you can have no idea "how hot" any one of these ever got. But to address your concern, I assure you that I didn't just decide to make up a bunch of numbers so they could be published on my website. I have tons of screen shots, and plenty of data.

Just for the record, the most common ambient temperature was 20.4 C, and the most common maximum CPU temp was 69 C.

Not at all certain of yourself, are you.

Since you have all the data, perhaps you'd care to explain how multiple members here are seeing results that contradict yours, or are they all just voicing "unfounded opinions"?

[littleowl]

I am doing my best to not take this as a slight against my hard work based on an unfounded opinion, because I know the crew here at Xtreme Systems is better than that.

Since I didn't release the maximum CPU temps (only the average mean temp) you can have no idea "how hot" any one of these ever got. But to address your concern, I assure you that I didn't just decide to make up a bunch of numbers so they could be published on my website. I have tons of screen shots, and plenty of data.

Just for the record, the most common ambient temperature was 20.4 C, and the most common maximum CPU temp was 69 C.

I have not read your work yet and I am not slighting your work but what I read what you have said here and that just don't sound right to me. maybe it is because of you using the stock heat sink i don't know. i have built and ran close to 30 northwood setups and from what you said here on the forum that don't sound right to me. now if you would have said you were using a prescott setup I would have said that your numbers seemed close to par. I will take time and read your 33 way report as soon as I can.


Just a little side note though I am a no-body so my opinion don't mean a darn thing to anyone here on this forum or any other place . And yes that is my opinion!

[Movieman]

I am doing my best to not take this as a slight against my hard work based on an unfounded opinion, because I know the crew here at Xtreme Systems is better than that.

Since I didn't release the maximum CPU temps (only the average mean temp) you can have no idea "how hot" any one of these ever got. But to address your concern, I assure you that I didn't just decide to make up a bunch of numbers so they could be published on my website. I have tons of screen shots, and plenty of data.

Just for the record, the most common ambient temperature was 20.4 C, and the most common maximum CPU temp was 69 C.

Hello:
I think what you first have to understand is that here in WCG we have a group of close friends that run the app.
Then someone sees a "new guy" come in that has an obvious agenda of promoting his own site and posts numbers that are contrary to what another individual here has seen there will be questions.
Now I perfectly understand you wanting to promote your site and I don't question the numbers you post but please understand the why's of what was said by Littleowl.
Oh yea, I'm Dave and welcome to our little group of mad scientists and crazed crunchers.
We have but a couple small rules here in WCG;
Leave your ego at the door and treat all as friends.
Thanks.

[[XC] riptide]

Easy now guys! We're all pals!

[SiGfever]

Easy now guys! We're all pals!

I told you Dave's therapy was not going well.

[[XC] riptide]

I told you Dave's therapy was not going well.

More horse tranquilizer. Always works for me

[SiGfever]

More horse tranquilizer. Always works for me

[Movieman]

I told you Dave's therapy was not going well.

C'mon Doc.. I was my regular nice self besides, did you see that guys interests?
Interests:
Competing in Submission Grappling, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Kickboxing
and age 33..
You think I'm dumb enough to argue with him?
Sounds like another Royce Gracie to me and I've watched that guy for years!

[Das Capitolin]

Not at all certain of yourself, are you.

Since you have all the data, perhaps you'd care to explain how multiple members here are seeing results that contradict yours, or are they all just voicing "unfounded opinions"?

Only on the web is it is scientifically acceptable to simply say "it doesn't sound right to me" without any supporting information as to why and people will buy into the arguement.

As for results contradicting my own, I haven't see anyone elses test results so I cannot say. My results use as many controlled variables as possible in a test environment. This isn't my personal computer with fans attached and a heater vent nearby; this is a styroafoam enclosed test frame with the exact same amount of CPU coverage every single test. The room is closed with additional closed cell foam insulation around the test area.

So to compare my results with someone elses is not something worth considering. Also... I don't have a financial interest in any of these companies, none of them advertise on my website, and they don't offer me any free gifts or product outside of test samples.

Finally, I am posting my results to share information. My website doesn't need special attention from the handful of visitors on this forum who might never leave the discussion arena to go and read any article I suggest. If they do, fine; and if they don't, that's fine too. I do this to get solid results, and not lean on the opinion of others to support my personal investment in computer hardware.

[littleowl]

you guys are getting way off subject not that it is anything new but still!

[Movieman]

Reluctantly puts on Mod hat:
Gentlemen:
I will ask that all posts from here are as friends with discussion of the data.
I have no reason to doubt this gentlemans numbers even if they are different than what otherss have seen.
Lets keep it friendly and no temper tantrums.
Thanks for reading.
Dave the Benevolent Mod

[littleowl]

Only on the web is it is scientifically acceptable to simply say "it doesn't sound right to me" without any supporting information as to why and people will buy into the arguement.

As for results contradicting my own, I haven't see anyone elses test results so I cannot say. My results use as many controlled variables as possible in a test environment. This isn't my personal computer with fans attached and a heater vent nearby; this is a styroafoam enclosed test frame with the exact same amount of CPU coverage every single test. The room is closed with additional closed cell foam insulation around the test area.

So to compare my results with someone elses is not something worth considering. Also... I don't have a financial interest in any of these companies, none of them advertise on my website, and they don't offer me any free gifts or product outside of test samples.

Finally, I am posting my results to share information. My website doesn't need special attention from the handful of visitors on this forum who might never leave the discussion arena to go and read any article I suggest. If they do, fine; and if they don't, that's fine too. I do this to get solid results, and not lean on the opinion of others to support my personal investment in computer hardware.

maybe or maybe not but you seem to have all kinds of time for being rude. I just said I didn't think the #'s you posted on this forum seemed right. nothing more and you jumped me like I was was telling 10000's of people you stupid. That is not the case but there is no reason for you to be rude!!


edit: sorry i posted after you dave!!

[SiGfever]

As stated this is a thread about D7 and please lets keep on topic (if that is possible with this group ). We are here to share information personal and professional concerning this TIM so lets try to keep the off topic comments (note to self, stop egging these guys on) to a minimum.

[Movieman]

10 minute closure while ALL here take a deep breath!

[fart_plume]

Ok someone quick PULL MY FINGER!!!!

[Movieman]

Thread open.
Now can we please keep this friendly or do we do a segment of
"As the Stomach Turns" and have a little drama here?
Seriously, keep it friendly and the veiled sarcasm out of it.
Thanks for reading.

Note: If anyone pulls Fart_Plumes finger I am personally sending them the bill for the toxic cleanup of XS.
Yes, that was an attempt at comic relief.

[fart_plume]

Finger pullin' is friendly Dave..................

[loonym]

Man, I'm always so out of the loop.
I like ac5 but I'm a little curious now.

[[XC] riptide]

I'll tell you another pullin' thats even more friendly

[fart_plume]

leave your sheep outa this Rip............

[Movieman]

Let's get this back on topic:
I've used AS5 for years and after what?? 2-3 weeks now I see a solid 3.5C improvement with D7 vs AS5..
That's me, one machine and not a scientific process at all.
Applied in a cross pattern, fairly heavy.
BUT it is fact here and thats what matters to me.
I get better temps on my Q6600 with D7 than with ASS.

[fart_plume]

i've seen the same with my opteron system too, much better temps than as5.