tell me why ?
tell me why ?
I'm looking forward to some test results.
I like the look of the Feser gear...
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LOOKS like a thermochill that has had some cosmetic adjustmentsOriginally Posted by dood001
I'm looking forward to some test results
I like the look of the Feser gear...
Nothing wrong with improving on an already winning design (if is does improve)
Q - does anyone actually ever use the bleed screws on TC rads? I've always been a bit apprehensive to open them in case of it leaking and so have just resorted to lots of tilting.
I've used it, and it works pretty well, just need to be on top and you need some paper to removed the water that will come out when it's bled..
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Those rads look v simmilar to my thermo pa120.3, I wonder if they perform as well??
boy some people here are reals, lets bash for nice packaging!, oh thats a thermochill clone! your gonna give us fake results! Ya I agree it is expensive, but lets not get ahead of ourselves lets wait for the first thermal tests and we'll vote with our wallets
I must admit these radiators don't seem to scream quality, but being about an inch shorter could really be beneficial in some cases, and the standard fan spacing and g 1/4 threads is nice too. Free fan seals are included, and if the thing performs just as well as the thermochills, well its a winner to me.
I say we win if we have more choices . . .which means if the Feser rad performs about the same we all win.
just as I suspected, a hair behind the TC, I would like to thank you very much for the testing.
I think the little extra fan spacing gives TC an edge.
The TC looks to be ~5% (?) larger than the feser... that would be the reason for the TC performing better I would think.
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what is more important, length or girth (aka depth)?
That is sort of a loaded question as it depends. If the tubes in one are significantly deeper then perhaps yes. The TC is definitely LONGER and that is what I based my comment on.
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Hello Malik, great work. i like your testing. Nice results you have their. finally someone tested it.
someone affend you to be sponsored by feser. i hope thats not why the feser rad has not so good results now.
we need more test results like this in different environments. who can make another test?
so only 1 degree difference? that is a good result i think. TC is on the market for years. And with i've a calc: -6 degrees with feser liquid, +1 degree with the rad and we still have -5 from the others
so finally i would say, for the start up the feser people did a good job and the rad is performing well.
1 degree... this is only important for hardcore user. therefore it provides G1/4 and dont have to buy the reduction adaptors. also the free siliconpads. thats a plus for me and i saw other people writing the same.
the TC fan spacing also was a major prob for my case. and i get rid of drilling the holes.
Keep up this work malik.
Last edited by Marco André; 04-19-2008 at 10:54 AM.
This is gonna be way more fun than my wifes tits.
any word on when some US companies are going to be carrying some of these products? .. and maybe some 7/16 tubing! .. interested in some of those shrouds too
Thanks for testing guys, it looks to be pretty close that's good!
I'd be happy to put the Fesser 120.3 on my bench too and fire up the heaters...
I have them coming soon. I should be able to give you one. PM me.Thanks for testing guys, it looks to be pretty close that's good!
I'd be happy to put the Fesser 120.3 on my bench too and fire up the heaters...
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Mcofffey, very nice test
Martin, do it
This is gonna be way more fun than my wifes tits.
You have PM..
@Mcofffey
thanks for that, you tested with just the CPU in the loop?
also hows the weight differential?
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What kind of fan you used (and how many) ?
I've ordered mine today. Feser seem to be less larger than the thermochill and this is important for me because I need a 120mm large radiator for my case (mozart tx).
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With the standard spacing and these results, I may be using them as an upgrade to Mithril when the current rads are saturated...
What I was thinking. Nice, easy to understand results (pokes Martin)
Nj!
While I find both Malik's* and mcoffey's results very impressive, it's still a far cry from the reported 5ºC or better over TC claims made by the company through a third party, which anyone with a brain here knew to be pure rubbish. If only they would come down to a more reasonable price (say 5-10% less than TC) here in the US, they'd probably be worth it. As it stands now, the 240 version costs ~14% more @ FrozenCPU and ~23% @ Danger Den, while the 360 version is ~28% more @ FCPU and ~35% more @ DD. IMO, simply unacceptable.
*While I don't see anything wrong with Malik's testing data, the sheer amount of advertising he's done for Feser as of late makes me question whether or not I can truly trust it. The fact that it was so closely backed up by mcoffey is the main reason I do sort of trust it.
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I have used 6 fans xthermal on both rads
Xchanger is smaller than TC
cough bump
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