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    i got my free sample from SPI the other day but have not had time to try it yet. Also I was worried about how to place it in the system because the fuzion gets screwed down on one side then the other. I don't think it will give very good readings. after i test it they said I should send it back to them.

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    My main concern is how to apply even mounting pressure while tightening the blocks down. Even with a criss-cross tightening pattern it will compress the film just like you are squeezing out a tube of toothpaste. Getting someone to help with the mount is not real world and I do not know if this should be done because your average user if told two people are required to apply the Tim might choose not to try. Just a thought.

    Since I measure the mounting plate distance each time to replicate the previous mount I feel fairly confident in the pressure being constant but a small variance is probable. I know that diamond is more conductive than other substances so my results puzzle me, they should have shown a couple degree improvement but did not putting me outside your other test subjects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiGfever View Post
    My main concern is how to apply even mounting pressure while tightening the blocks down. Even with a criss-cross tightening pattern it will compress the film just like you are squeezing out a tube of toothpaste. Getting someone to help with the mount is not real world and I do not know if this should be done because your average user if told two people are required to apply the Tim might choose not to try. Just a thought.

    Since I measure the mounting plate distance each time to replicate the previous mount I feel fairly confident in the pressure being constant but a small variance is probable. I know that diamond is more conductive than other substances so my results puzzle me, they should have shown a couple degree improvement but did not putting me outside your other test subjects.
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    I did the "cross" pattern on mine and with the TRUE I tighten it down as one would a auto wheel and in small steps of maybe 1/2 a screw turn at a time.
    I'm not saying it's the best way, but it's always worked for me.
    I've always thought there was a lot of voodoo witch doctor kind of thinking over the last few years as regards the "proper" way to put on thermal paste and most of it has ignored the placement of the cores under the IHS.
    I can see a "drop like a grain of rice" concept for a single core but not on a dual or quad. Different locations of the cores underneath that IHS and that has to be taken into consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiGfever View Post
    My main concern is how to apply even mounting pressure while tightening the blocks down. Even with a criss-cross tightening pattern it will compress the film just like you are squeezing out a tube of toothpaste. Getting someone to help with the mount is not real world and I do not know if this should be done because your average user if told two people are required to apply the Tim might choose not to try. Just a thought.


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    Well Maybe it's an issue maybe not. I am trying to anticipate what problems we may encounter. Hopefully the company rep can provide some insight.

    There is also a time factor involved in this- less than ten seconds - more than ten seconds. When I talked to the rep he also mentioned longer term conditions like overnight, something like this may average out the initial imbalances would be perhaps another way to go.

    Careful sequential tightening may be adequate
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    We can be careful with how we mount. I think we will have more suggestions when we try out the first piece. I have no clue how this stuff behaves. The company rep's suggestions should prove useful.

    Whatever we do, we should work within some set of guidelines so we don't return a bunch of "blown" film to you.

    I would think if we mount with paste, we may have an issue of false results on the film since the paste will spread out, with some force, to the edges. Without paste though, we are really just looking at the contact profile of the bare metal. I don't know what is better.....I suppose we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 123bob View Post
    We can be careful with how we mount. I think we will have more suggestions when we try out the first piece. I have no clue how this stuff behaves. The company rep's suggestions should prove useful.

    Whatever we do, we should work within some set of guidelines so we don't return a bunch of "blown" film to you.

    I would think if we mount with paste, we may have an issue of false results on the film since the paste will spread out, with some force, to the edges. Without paste though, we are really just looking at the contact profile of the bare metal. I don't know what is better.....I suppose we'll see.

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    I was planning on doing it with out any paste I don't see the paste as helping in any way. the sheet that SPI sent me is kind of neat and i don't see a way that it could be done with the paste on either.
    Last edited by littleowl; 04-15-2008 at 07:05 PM. Reason: missed my e on paste (dumb A attack) LOL



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